Cant get my dual rectifier to work

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thegreattailz":1vldg9hz said:
This about sums it up


I think you should email Mark Cameron right NOW and put a deposit on one of his amps. They are CLEARLY labeled, they work with computers, Ipads, Iphones, even old Walkman's. AND no cabinet is needed....who needs that crap anyway right.,

So pick up the phone today and call 1.888.scammenow Don't delay.
 
Business":c1z3nac0 said:
They're not different brands/quality, just built differently

http://www.fender.com/news/why-instrument-cables-and-speaker-cables-arent-interchangeable/

All these years you've been quite lucky to not blow anything

I just checked. Yep, ive been using an instrument cable between my head and cab. Wel thanks,l that lil bit of information helped. I might look into getting an attenuator. So if I did decide I wanted to record from a line in, but keep the tone of the amp, how would I do it? And the cabinet that I do have has a switch for 8 ohms and 16 ohms. And I know enough to match impedences, even the handbook says even if i went 8 ohms out of the head into the 16 ohm cab, it would be a safe mismatch (and it would drain my tubes) but im just wondering what it would do soundwise? Anyone? See, I did read the manual.

People here would rather make jokes than be serious. Im not laughing and Im worried I really did blow my amp. Its a human fucking mistake
 
here is a trick I did. WITH the amp on and the cab connected, I used eleven free, (included in protools 8 and up) turned off the amp emulator and just used the cab emulator. ran from the slave out and captured that in pro tools. Got me my preamp sound and a decent cab sound. g'night all!
 
thegreattailz":39onvs32 said:
So if I did decide I wanted to record from a line in, but keep the tone of the amp, how would I do it?

amp output --> attenuator --> line out of attenuator --> recording software --> cab sims VST's/Plugins like redwirez

or

amp output --> two notes live --> recording software

There are tons of topics on this - use the search. In quick summary the two notes live has a load and cab simulations both built in which you can run the head directly into and use that as your line out source with cab simulations.

thegreattailz":39onvs32 said:
And the cabinet that I do have has a switch for 8 ohms and 16 ohms. And I know enough to match impedences, even the handbook says even if i went 8 ohms out of the head into the 16 ohm cab, it would be a safe mismatch (and it would drain my tubes) but im just wondering what it would do soundwise? Anyone? See, I did read the manual.

People here would rather make jokes than be serious. Im not laughing and Im worried I really did blow my amp. Its a human fucking mistake

Soundwise depends on the transformer design. Each amplifier is different however it actually is not a good idea to mismatch impedances. Keep the amplifier and the cabinet setting identical - meaning 16 ohm mono setting on the cabinet using the 16 ohm output of the amplifier.
 
danyeo":29e7oi3w said:
thegreattailz":29e7oi3w said:
This about sums it up


I think you should email Mark Cameron right NOW and put a deposit on one of his amps. They are CLEARLY labeled, they work with computers, Ipads, Iphones, even old Walkman's. AND no cabinet is needed....who needs that crap anyway right.,

So pick up the phone today and call 1.888.scammenow Don't delay.

That phone number didnt work
 
On the off chance you are not just trolling, it's POSSIBLE that you could run from the FX send to your computer with the amp on STANDBY without a cabinet. Whether that will actually send any signal to your computer (it will be missing the power amp; it'll be all preamp) and whether it will actually be safe (not blow the output transformer) depends on how the amp is built, and I don't know about the Recto. Call Mesa and ask if you really feel the need to try this.

Match whatever impedance the manual says is safe. I have a Triple Recto that I run with a 16 ohm cab plugged into the 8 ohm output because I think it sounds better than with the 16 ohm output. But please don't take the amp off standby without a cabinet plugged in. That will make us all cry.

As for the rest of the stuff on the back of the amp that's confusing you, you probably just shouldn't bother with it at the moment. Though the Rectifier switch shouldn't be confusing...
 
Just stop please... I can't take it anymore :D :lol: :LOL:
The amount of patience being shown in this thread really shows the good intentions of people on this forum.
You are either a troll or have no business whatsoever owning this amp, lol. I'm sorry.
:aww:
 
thegreattailz":1cv1xzi1 said:
danyeo":1cv1xzi1 said:
thegreattailz":1cv1xzi1 said:
This about sums it up


I think you should email Mark Cameron right NOW and put a deposit on one of his amps. They are CLEARLY labeled, they work with computers, Ipads, Iphones, even old Walkman's. AND no cabinet is needed....who needs that crap anyway right.,

So pick up the phone today and call 1.888.scammenow Don't delay.

That phone number didnt work

:lol: :LOL:

What I meant really was

:hys:
 
Unplug your amp and pack it up just like it was when you got it. Then take it back to the store you bought it from.

Best advice of the thread right here. :doh:
 
Chubtone":3e91ihit said:
This guy is good. This guy is very, very good.

Just when you think he's trolling, he pulls you right back in

That picture sealed the deal though
Using the line out but then writing "not sure what this does"
Then talking about attenuators but not knowing what channel switching is
 
moronmountain":1n58tes9 said:
thegreattailz":1n58tes9 said:
RG955TT":1n58tes9 said:
Please explain how you get a sound without a speaker cab? You may have already fucked it up sorry to say, maybe not but you need to download the manual and do some reading as it seems you don't have an understanding of some very basic things about tube amps. The manual explain a lot of general stuff you need to know and does it pretty well, such as NEVER run an amplifier with no load i.e no speakers hooked up to it or you'll blow the output transformer and possibly more. I am still wondering how you expect it to make a sound without a speaker? Yes you can take a line out if it has one to a computer/powered speakers but that will still blow it up as the amp is not seeing a speaker load and it will fry the transformer. You need to self educate a little (or more) here, you are way behind the basic understanding you need to use one of these. Good luck. If you ran it without a load and the person you bought it from sees that your done as far as returning it if it doesn't work at this point. If you ran a marshall this way...well I don't know what to say about that. Again, do a little research and reading about tube amp basics. Always need to have a speaker hooked up (and use speaker cable, not an instrument cable.

Direct line out? Of course I have a basic fucking understanding, I never owner one before. And no it was a half stack. And dude, this is QUITE a lot different that "Hey ma, the car has no engine in it..."

No, it's actually more like running a car engine with no oil in it................

A better analogy, sticking to the car theme, is running the engine to red line without a rev limiter while not connected to the trans to turn the engines power into motion. Running the engine beyond red line with nothing to control the rpm will kill it in short order.
As with a tube amp it needs to drive something, the speaker.

I think some of you are overly stating the damage potential.
You can run a tube amp at idle, meaning turn it on with no load and nothing plugged in.
No input is like no throttle. The amp is idling like the car engine is idling.
Now if you stomp on the throttle, then you can have problems.
It's not the end of the world or the amp to simply turn it on with no load.

The real question to the OP is, what were you trying to accomplish with just a head and no speakers?
Turning the amp on with no input or load leaves the amp idling so it will be ok, but if you plugged in and then started turning up the gain and volume output that's when damage can/will occur.

If you're trying to get a line out, some amps can give you line out with no load, you just have to put the amp into "stand by" mode, so that the OT will be protected.
I don't know if your amp has that capability.
 
C1-ocaster is spot on here. You can have your head with no load all day... as long as you don't have any input signal going to the front end of the amplifier.

It is also [generally] safe to pull all the power tubes from an amplifier and use the effects send hooked up to another power amp or recording device without a load plugged in. The preamp tubes will be running at a higher voltage though, which will effect the sound of the amp :)
 
lolzgreg":kayloiqk said:
C1-ocaster is spot on here. You can have your head with no load all day... as long as you don't have any input signal going to the front end of the amplifier.

It is also [generally] safe to pull all the power tubes from an amplifier and use the effects send hooked up to another power amp or recording device without a load plugged in. The preamp tubes will be running at a higher voltage though, which will effect the sound of the amp :)

If there is plate voltage on the tubes there is an idle current flowing which means there is a plate impedance seen on the primary which also means a load must exist on the secondary. If you play the amplifier the tubes are modulated and makes the problem even worse. The fact that you are not playing does not mean you can skimp out on the load.
 
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