CDC Labeled Accurate Articles As Misinformation

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When will you science deniers acknowledge the CDC is misinforming?
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Unfortunately people are still repeating the mantra of safe and 95% effective when Pfizer's own trial data shows .85% effective even when you provide actual data from Pfizer but you already knew this.
 
Unfortunately people are still repeating the mantra of safe and 95% effective when Pfizer's own trial data shows .85% effective even when you provide actual data from Pfizer but you already knew this.
Who knew that all it took for these scumbags to get sued was the absolute vs relative risk shenanigans. I was pointing that out early and it was like people couldn't comprehend it, or thought I was lying, even though you could easily look it up.
 
How fucking stupid is it to bother with something that reduces risk (At best) like 1% or whatever it was. How is that even statistically meaningful?
 
How fucking stupid is it to bother with something that reduces risk (At best) like 1% or whatever it was. How is that even statistically meaningful?
If you do some digging you will find the FDA gold standard method of evaluating the efficacy of any drug/vaccine/treatment was 50%. Any efficacy below 50% is considered useless. It is very difficult to find the FDA documents now but there are still some out there if you dig. Doctors like Dr. Peter McCullough openly states this figure in interviews for the last three years.

The absolute risk reduction efficacy of .85% is in the State of Texas lawsuit against Pfizer which has already been posted here.
 
If you do some digging you will find the FDA gold standard method of evaluating the efficacy of any drug/vaccine/treatment was 50%. Any efficacy below 50% is considered useless. It is very difficult to find the FDA documents now but there are still some out there if you dig. Doctors like Dr. Peter McCullough openly states this figure in interviews for the last three years.

The absolute risk reduction efficacy of .85% is in the State of Texas lawsuit against Pfizer which has already been posted here.
My prediction is that nothing will come of it. If you dig, you'll find that the response was a ultimately a military operation and that Pfizer and other gov agencies have no liability for anything beyond outright fraud.
 
Oh shit don't tell me it's only 85% effective. How terrible. Did you score High Distinctions in everything or are you less than 85% effective yourself?
I think you've assumed he made a typo brother, writing, ".85%", when in fact it was indeed .85%, not 85% or .85-effective.

The cited Pfeizer-trial data showed .0085-effective /.85 of 1% / .85%.
 
That's not the issue 'though; I simply corrected your statement by taking a guess as to the explanation.

I fell for the typo thing for a few seconds myself.
 
That's not the issue 'though; I simply corrected your statement by taking a guess as to the explanation.

I fell for the typo thing for a few seconds myself.
Yes but I deleted what I said a few seconds after I typed it and then couldn’t be bothered writing or researching any of their bunk because I knew it was bunk.
 
https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/pfizer-vaccine-claim-misleads-on-efficacy-measures/

These people cherry pick whatever rubbish supports their conspiracy theories.
It’s not a conspiracy theory, the article acknowledges that it’s true. It’s debatable whether absolute is a more significant metric. In this context — for a disease with such an incredibly high survival rate, it is obvious that it is the more relevant metric. On the other hand, if COVID killed or seriously harmed half the people that got it, relative would seem the more important metric.

I’m still curious though whether it’s even statistically significant, given so few people actually caught the disease in either the control or vaccinated groups. As I recall it was something like 120 people out of 20k that had caught in the control group and 15 in the vaccinated group. It has been revealed that regular standards for testing (Among other things) did not apply.
 
It’s not a conspiracy theory, the article acknowledges that it’s true. It’s debatable whether absolute is a more significant metric. In this context — for a disease with such an incredibly high survival rate, it is obvious that it is the more relevant metric. On the other hand, if COVID killed or seriously harmed half the people that got it, relative would seem the more important metric.

I’m still curious though whether it’s even statistically significant, given so few people actually caught the disease in either the control or vaccinated groups. As I recall it was something like 120 people out of 20k that had caught in the control group and 15 in the vaccinated group. It has been revealed that regular standards for testing (Among other things) did not apply.
It's so bizarre to see people basically denying 2+2=4 in real time.
 
It's so bizarre to see people basically denying 2+2=4 in real time.
I don't think guys like @Thumbpicker are stupid. I think it's more like they are too smart. Too caught up in "Explanations" and "Science" and avoiding "Conspiracy theory" not to be able to step back and use common sense. Common sense might lead one to question, "Is it worth it to take a novel vaccine with no long term safety data in order to reduce my risk for catching something with a 99.965% survival rate by less than 1%(If that)?"
 
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