Dan Gleesak
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That is completely off the mark
That is completely off the mark
Dan Gleesak
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Accurate numbers track a disease. For everyone that is paranoid that numbers are used for control, there is a person that realizes numbers are also used to lessen restrictions.
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VonBonfire
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Restrictions aren't acceptable because someone has an irrational fear of catching a disease and dying. Even if the disease is severe, it's not acceptable to tell everyone to stay at home and starve to death instead. The world doesn't hinge on a hypochondriac's opinion. That's some communist crap right there. The free money was the hush payment.
Dan Gleesak
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That is certainly a valid opinion, but really doesn’t have much to do with wastewater testing. Most of the population would prefer to know if their community was highly affected or not. You aren’t one of them, but you are an outlier
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VonBonfire
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"Most of the population" is speculative. And even if your speculation is right and even if the tests were very accurate there are many millions of people on private septic systems that aren't tested that would render a very accurate test wildly inaccurate.
Dan Gleesak
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The testing is very accurate. It may not give exact numbers of people infected, but it accurately tracks the rise and fall of infections. Just because people want to be informed doesn’t mean they are all for restrictions. I think people too often confuse the amazing science that is applied, for the assholes that use it to push a narrative. The science isn’t the narrative.
tracking a disease is a smart thing. Being able to test for a disease instantly is a smart thing.
Plus on a personal level, I just find it very interesting. Water is a big part of my job, both potable and waste water. Big picture, they are one and the same. So I’m pretty good with people testing wastewater because that is the same water that eventually comes out of your tap
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VonBonfire
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I guessed you missed where I explained how basic math shows it's not accurate when you aren't tracking off grid septic systems.
Dan Gleesak
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It will show the rise and fall of the samples that are being taken. This isn’t about saying “85% of the county is positive” it’s about saying “we are finding much less/much more of the virus this month compared to last month”. As long as the testing pool is consistent, the results are accurate
Bad Brain
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Not to mention the validity of the testing itself.
Bad Brain
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What if they were all "asymptomatic carriers"? A positive PCR isn't a valid diagnostic test according to the creator, Kary Mullis. Interestingly, he thought Facui was a shill and coincidently happened to die in the summer of 2019.
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VonBonfire
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No offense but that just fixes everything, don't it?
Means about as much as a chart showing how many oreo cookies I ate month over month. Or my cell phone telling me "you used 10 min less this month". Data, sure, but none that can fix anything.
Dan Gleesak
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Where did I say it fixes everything, I said that it’s helpful and interesting
Dan Gleesak
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What are you even going on about now lolWhat if they were all "asymptomatic carriers"? A positive PCR isn't a valid diagnostic test according to the creator, Kary Mullis. Interestingly, he thought Facui was a shill and coincidently happened to die in the summer of 2019.
Dan Gleesak
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Seriously, what are you even talking about? What does this have to do with anything that we are currently talking about? You need to step back from your agenda and think about what you are saying.What if they were all "asymptomatic carriers"? A positive PCR isn't a valid diagnostic test according to the creator, Kary Mullis. Interestingly, he thought Facui was a shill and coincidently happened to die in the summer of 2019.
Dan Gleesak
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Wastewater testing is absurdly accurate.
I can take a sample of the ground water and tell if a plumber used ABS glue on site. It’s shocking
Bad Brain
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I’m talking about the validity of the testing for virus dna. And I don’t doubt you claim about glue. Just quit huffing it so much, it’s not good for you ?
Dan Gleesak
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It’s the basic principle behind waste water treatment. Accurate testing is why it exists. Why would testing for covid be different? Testing for variants of SARS isn’t even new. It predates covid
Bad Brain
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A virus is not glue, is it.
Dan Gleesak
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It doesn’t test positive for “glue”, it will test positive for methyl ethyl ketone or another chemical, down to the parts per billion
Bad Brain
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No agenda, just critical analysis. I’m saying that, for example, if you have a test that shows high rates of a virus, but nobody was actually sick, then so what?
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