Celestion thump

Exo-metal

Exo-metal

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Love my tones these days through my RIC creambacks but I want to run a second cab not only to give them some rest, (NOT MUCH) the one tone I need to blend in is some low end thump.

What I don't want is to have the secondary speaker to overrun the mids and highs of the creamback.

First thought is the G12H-30 55hz or maybe the original Marshall branded V30. Who wins?
 
The issue might be the sensitivity (loudness) of those old CBs. They will likely have less output than most modern Celestions. They might get buried too much.

I have yet to find a G12H-55 that I like. Recently sold some BB versions of that. G12H-75 can be decent tho.
 
Old 70's straights. I'm not mixing cabs yet so nothing is getting buried yet. FourT6and2 brought his cab that had the creamback H75 and that's when I heard the low end thump.

I like my M25 creambacks detail and only need to add that low end thump. The question is what is the smartest way to not cover up what is already there.
 
i have the G12H-55 & they can be kinda bright. i'm actually looking to eventually get rid of at least 2 of mine.
 
I'd go g12t75's cause they are scooped and have good bass response. V30's would dominate because of the upper mids they have.
 
A redback has a pwr rating of 150w. I might run one in parallel with the 412 creamback cab?
 
G12 65 like the ones Metallica used on M.O. P. maybe? Either way keep the CB's up top. I can tell you G12T75'S might be a little too loud even on the bottom and have more highs. I've never tried Redbacks but they seem to be another possible solution.
 
Old 70's straights. I'm not mixing cabs yet so nothing is getting buried yet. FourT6and2 brought his cab that had the creamback H75 and that's when I heard the low end thump.

I like my M25 creambacks detail and only need to add that low end thump. The question is what is the smartest way to not cover up what is already there.

Ok, I'd try the following:
- 1st: add another cab for a full stack effect; you'll get "more" of what you already have, might be the ticket;
- if still not quite there, then I'd look into a 2nd cab with old original early/mid 70's G12H30s. I prefer the lead cones for what I play; still get that "old classic greenback" vibe with more "thump" as you say, stay tighter but still gets amazing old school feel, not too stiff nor high end harsh (like the newer Heritage can be to my fingers & ears). Bass cones will feel & sound "cleaner".
- 3rd option if feel is still not there: look into slightly later higher power late 70's / early 80's Celestion for that 2nd cab; could be G12-65, or even G12H-100 / G12K-85 (the later being even farther from the old 70's G12M Creambacks).
 
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