Chester Bennington committed suicide today

[IndyWS6]

Brian (HEAD) isn't the singer; he's the guitarist.

Read his book - he knows what he's talking about. He's seen hell personally. He's dealt with depression, substance abuse, and suicide as well, so he does have a place to have an opinion - just like all the keyboard commandos around here.

He was friends with Chester too. He also made another statement later in the day that basically said he shouldn't have siad it, but he was really upset about the whole thing, and spoke when he shouldn't have - he's dealing with grief too.

Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinions, but to say that people who commit suicide are weak and don't care about their families is ignorant and insensitive. Even in a moment of grief. That's my opinion...

Having that opinion was fine; putting it in a public forum was not the best idea. Internet has created a whole new world of Thought Police though. Some people just need to pump the brakes. Just like the comments Squank made, when he doesn't know a thing about the person making the comments - he doesn't even know WHO he is or what his life experiences were. Ironic.

Here was Brian's later comment - "I didn't mean to sound insensitive about Chester. Just dealing with a range of emotions today. Love you Chester. I'm pissed that you did this, but I know this could have been me back in the day after getting wasted one night."

People say things in the heat of the moment that they regret. He clearly does, so kudos to him for following-up...

Head is about as genuine a person as there is. I've met him personally, while he was out of Korn. My short conversation with him made a huge impact on my life personally. He might be a rock star, but he doesn't act like one - he's a real person, genuine, and very down-to-earth. He'd be the first to admit his faults and transgressions - just as he did with the video he posted later. Not many would have the thoughtfulness to do so.

Cool...

 

[psychodave]

Jeez:
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/korn-g ... y-way-out/

I agree with him. While I sympathize with the situation, this wasn't the answer....

 

[vchizzle]

We can make excuses and assumptions about these people, but we have no idea what they have gone through. Period. Kids or no kids, families, or no families. It's easy for us to judge their actions sitting at home, typing on a computer.

You don't know what he was going through. Mental illness is a personal thing, and everyone has their own experience with it. I used to think people who committed suicide were cowards, but that was just my ignorance.

Show some respect and just let it be.

Agreed.

 

[Blackbird]

Jeez:
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/korn-g ... y-way-out/

I agree with him. While I sympathize with the situation, this wasn't the answer....

Yep. I don't care what anyone says, when you have kids they come first and your own emotional well being is a distant second. There simply is no excuse. I do sympathize with their struggles and regret the sad outcome....but, this was not the answer.

 

[amiller]

Imagine having an illness that pushes you to a state of mind where you are incapable of making normal decisions. When you're feeling "normal" you would NEVER even seriously consider killing yourself. But when your illness pushes you out of you're mind you're not thinking about the brave or right thing to do. You're obsessed with trying to end the pain. You are literally out of your mind and out of control of rational decisions. You're on a train wreck about to happen with NO way to put on the brakes.

R.I.P Chester and may your family have the strength to get through this tragedy...peace.

 

[Blackbird]

Imagine having an illness that pushes you to a state of mind where you are incapable of making normal decisions. When you're feeling "normal" you would NEVER even seriously consider killing yourself. But when your illness pushes you out of you're mind you're not thinking about the brave or right thing to do. You're obsessed with trying to end the pain. You are literally out of your mind and out of control of rational decisions. You're on a train wreck about to happen with NO way to put on the brakes.

R.I.P Chester and may your family have the strength to get through this tragedy...peace.

Sorry, that's bullshit. Like many people, I've dealt with depression before. But, you have to seek help or deal with it anyway you can. These guys should have checked themselves into a clinic, or something. Hell, pay a group of guys to beat the shit out of you-fight club style....whatever. What I'm saying is you can see it coming on....deal with it anyway possible besides ending it all.

 

[BYTOR]

No hero in your tragedy
No daring in your escape
No salutes for your surrender
Nothing noble in your fate
Christ what have you done...

 

[Shawn Lutz]

sad....I do not understand how anyone with children can self check out like this. I feel bad for his kids, just like Chris Cornell's - their fathers took the cowards way out. No pity for people who commit suicide, only for the damage they leave behind for their family members who have to deal with the pain and fallout.

 

[IndyWS6]

I won't try to convince anyone to adopt my point of view, so I'll bow out with this last comment.

I find it hard to believe that there are so many that fail to understand the fact that a person can be so troubled by depression, addiction and mental illness that suicide seems to be the only solution. Have you ever done something stupid while you were drunk? Notch that inability to act rationally by a factor of 10. These people are not spineless, they aren't cowards and they most likely loved their families as much as anyone else. They were simply too incapcitated by whatever demon was troubling them to rationally consider other solutions...

 

[Red_Label]

I won't try to convince anyone to adopt my point of view, so I'll bow out with this last comment.

I find it hard to believe that there are so many that fail to understand the fact that a person can be so troubled by depression, addiction and mental illness that suicide seems to be the only solution. Have you ever done something stupid while you were drunk? Notch that inability to act rationally by a factor of 10. These people are not spineless, they aren't cowards and they most likely loved their families as much as anyone else. They were simply too incapcitated by whatever demon was troubling them to rationally consider other solutions...

Agreed. I was fighting the same forum battle on another site. People just don't understand how depression and suicide work, unless they've been to the edge and looked down that dark hole.

Everyone agrees... it's a horrible thing to put kids through. I know, because my ex's father put her and I through it. We found his body after he put a .30-06 to his chin and pulled the trigger. 1995 was a year that I'll never forget. You spend the rest of your life wondering, questioning. Every child of someone who commits suicide with spend the rest of their lives wondering why, trying to make sense of it. It's a very selfish thing to do. But people experiencing that kind of depression can no long cope with their pain. Many of them spent years trying to do so, just for their family's sake. It's not like most of them just woke up one day from a happy life and pulled the trigger out of boredom. I've come to a spot of understanding regarding my own experience. An acknowledgement that my FIL could not longer carry the burden of pain that he was carrying and one day, the light inside him just winked out. Before that time, he was the most giving, loving family man I never knew. His family was his whole life. He didn't have hobbies or spend time doing his own selfish things. It was all just family. His father committed suicide when he was younger. He'd been having horrible gall bladder attacks. He was about to lose one of his legs because of diabetes. His schizophrenic wife of many years and been in and out of mental institutions and had been nothing but a burden and a drain on him for decades.

I've looked down the dark hole of depression and tried to rationalize that my family would be better-off if I was gone. And I wasn't carrying the burden of pain that he was. I managed to pull myself back from the edge because I didn't want to put my kids through that. But I WILL NOT trivialize the pain these people are going through with a smug "I've been there, done that, and these selfish pricks are pussies". Anyone who does that is talking out of his ass.

 

[Red_Label]

Btw... my thoughts and prayers go out to the family left behind.

I have liked LP's music since they debuted. I had some of their songs from downloads years ago, but this morning I bought three of their digital albums on Amazon. Hopefully some of that money makes its way to his survivors.

 

[Bob Savage]

Imagine having an illness that pushes you to a state of mind where you are incapable of making normal decisions. When you're feeling "normal" you would NEVER even seriously consider killing yourself. But when your illness pushes you out of you're mind you're not thinking about the brave or right thing to do. You're obsessed with trying to end the pain. You are literally out of your mind and out of control of rational decisions. You're on a train wreck about to happen with NO way to put on the brakes.

R.I.P Chester and may your family have the strength to get through this tragedy...peace.

Sorry, that's bullshit. Like many people, I've dealt with depression before. But, you have to seek help or deal with it anyway you can. These guys should have checked themselves into a clinic, or something. Hell, pay a group of guys to beat the shit out of you-fight club style....whatever. What I'm saying is you can see it coming on....deal with it anyway possible besides ending it all.

Of course, because you have made the right decisions (so far), everybody else should be capable of being just like you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterfactual_thinking

 

[Bob Savage]

their fathers took the cowards way out.

It's a shame it's not this simple.

 

[Red_Label]

Of course, because you have made the right decisions (so far), everybody else should be capable of being just like you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterfactual_thinking

I always chuckle at the smug, self-sure responses in suicide threads. I would like to catch-up with all of them down the road a ways (after they've been through some tough times, or watched family/friends struggle with life) and see if they're still so cold and cocky about it. Many will be. Many won't be. And some won't be around to check-in.


Empathy... it's something that's sadly lacking in our drive-by society where everyone's roadkill eventually.

 

[D-Rock]

IMO, he was always a C list vocalist in a C list band. He mingled with A list rockers and now he's undeservingly forever linked to actual noteworthy A list suicides as a result.

RIP regardless,

 

[ElectricVoodoo]

We can make excuses and assumptions about these people, but we have no idea what they have gone through. Period. Kids or no kids, families, or no families. It's easy for us to judge their actions sitting at home, typing on a computer.

You don't know what he was going through. Mental illness is a personal thing, and everyone has their own experience with it. I used to think people who committed suicide were cowards, but that was just my ignorance.

Show some respect and just let it be.

I concur. Well put.

This is plain sickening.
Someone hacked his.wifes twitter and posted these horrible things.
People suck

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/hacker ... s-suicide/

 

[Red_Label]

IMO, he was always a C list vocalist in a C list band. He mingled with A list rockers and now he's undeservingly forever linked to actual noteworthy A list suicides as a result.

RIP regardless,

Well there ya go... some anonymous internet guy named D-rock on the internet has proclaimed his status as a "C list vocalist in a C list band". No wonder Chester killed himself. Couldn't live with the shame of knowing that some keyboard commandos didn't value his work and thought of him as unworthy to even be mentioned with an A-lister (who happened to be his close friend) . Was obviously too heavy a cross for him to bear.


These threads always bring out the biggest bags of hot air.

 

[scottosan]

IMO, he was always a C list vocalist in a C list band. He mingled with A list rockers and now he's undeservingly forever linked to actual noteworthy A list suicides as a result.

RIP regardless,

$30 million net worth in half the time as Cornell and Cornell was worth $60 million. Doesn't sound C-list

 

[ElectricVoodoo]

IMO, he was always a C list vocalist in a C list band. He mingled with A list rockers and now he's undeservingly forever linked to actual noteworthy A list suicides as a result.

RIP regardless,

Never heard of you. And you are???????

 

[crankyrayhanky]

IMO, he was always a C list vocalist in a C list band. He mingled with A list rockers and now he's undeservingly forever linked to actual noteworthy A list suicides as a result.

RIP regardless,

If Linkin Park isn't an A list band I don't know who is. You may not like them, but not only are they A list, you could argue they are (were) at the very top of the A list...any way you want to judge it- live show attendance, swag sales, music sales, awards...the only A list they didn't make was your personal list lol. They were printing $

I just listened to that 1st disc again and every track is a hit. Great stuff, makes me want to scream, rap and scritcha scratch with my hi gain guitar.