Chubtone--track by track

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i got this cd last week finally and theres great tunes,great playing,great sounds and great production.

Chubtone...how about a gear walk thru...tune by tune?

after all it is RIG TALK.tell us about how u did what u did.
 
I have fun with Curt daily and love to blast him here when I can but honestly I am very happy to get to know him, he is one of my favorite players on the forum and LOVE his cd. In the real world I could not think of sharing a stage with him :thumbsup:
 
First of all, I have a couple of reactions to this thread. The first one is that I am about to get Punk'd if I answer this with everyone jumping out from behind furniture and yelling "Surprise" and "yeah we really :scared: give a rats ass what you used." :D

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danyeo":3qdgo8w6 said:
Charvel's.

Dan, my friend, your post is wickedly funny and I am cracking up. One word and you are killing me. :lol: :LOL:
 
Gorehog":5yvrvfou said:
i got this cd last week finally and theres great tunes,great playing,great sounds and great production.

Chubtone...how about a gear walk thru...tune by tune?

after all it is RIG TALK.tell us about how u did what u did.

Gorehog,
I think you are being serious in your request. And since I paid you to start this thread to rev up my CD sales and support a second leg of my world tour, I will try and answer to the best of my memory. I finished recording this CD almost two years ago and finished mixing it a year ago. I also did not keep records of what I used because I never suspected someone would ask me.

There were two main guitars that I used, my 1984 Charvel San Dimas that I bought in 1984 when I was 17. I was saving money for a Kramer as I had never ever seen a real Charvel in my life, only read about them in articles with EVH and Rhoads. One day, my other bandmates and I borrowed my friends mom's station wagon and we went from the suburbs into Chicago. Let me tell you that we were all forbidden from going into the city. But we did it anyway, because we were metal! You think Tommy Lee's mom told him he couldn't go to Guitar Center?!!! No WAY!

I played my first Charvel at GC that day and I was no longer interested in buying a Kramer. The Charvel was twice as much. No big deal. I delivered pizza's in that hideous Chicago winter weather in a rusted out 1973 Honda Civic. It just meant I would have to deliver 50,000 more pizzas before I got a Charvel. But I did get it one day. We snuck into the city again that day to go pick one out, just like Jake E Lee would have done if his mom told him no. Here's the Charvel, thousands and thousands of hours playing on it later:

It's the dark purple one with the pointy headstock. It has a Duncan Custom in the bridge and some old Duncan single in the neck. Whatever the neck pickup is, I don't like it. I need to throw a Duncan SSL-5 or Arcane '69 Experience in it:

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I also used the candy tangerine one on the far right for all the lead stuff on Long To Touch You. It has an Arcane Brownbucker in the bridge and a Duncan '59 in the neck.

The other main guitar was this Warmoth I put together in the mid 90's. It sounded really cool recorded with just a Duncan '59 in the bridge. I really liked the way it sounded with that lower output pickup for rhythms. It felt and seemed wimpy while playing it but was easier to hear in the mix. i have put together at least a dozen Warmoths since this one in an attempt to find one I like as much and NONE of them have been as good.

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The main amp I used was my Mojave Peacemaker with the THD Hot Plate.

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Once I got my Splawn Quick Rod, I used it quite a bit for whatever was left to record. All of "Yellow Cake" was the Splawn and the lead guitars on "Long To Touch You" was the Splawn.

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With the Mojave, I almost always used a boost pedal. Either a Fulltone OCD, a vintage TS-9 or a made in Japan SD-1. With the Splawn I may have used the SD-1 on the leads in "Yellow Cake"

This is how crappy my home studio was at the time I recorded this. I do have a secret weapon, vintage API mic preamp underneath my desk on top of the rack that I ran everything through. I used Cakewalk Sonar Producer 3 and M-Audio Delta 1010 as an interface. My mixing desk is much cooler now and I have big dual monitors. Still have that ghetto sound-proofed cab in the closet though.

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And my cabinet (loaded with G12H30's) is barricaded in this tiny "walk in" closet under all kinds of sound-proofing. The Shure SM57 is under the moving blankets. This is a ghetto sound booth but it works surprisingly well. When we looked at this house, I looked at the garage and then I looked to see if one of the bedrooms had a closet deep enough to turn the cabinet sideways. It did and we bought the house. My kids can deal with the bedrooms with regular closets. :lol: :LOL:

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make no mistake,i do not know, nor ever have met Chubtone.

reason for thread,all the hype regarding Peter Thorn's cd.which is awesome.i love it.sparked my tastes to revisit instrumental music.
he's awesome and an established player.very cool of him to post here and give us insight on how he recorded his CD.

CT ,to my knowledge is not hopping on the tour bus traveling the world etc etc.my take is,you wrote some tunes recorded it at ur leisure and pit them on CD and released it.which is what playing guitar is all about.sure theres that portion where u just hafta learn that Rhoads solo,or learn the Satriani tune just to see if your good enuff to do it.but in reality,making music is the reason we/i play guitar.to express ourselves.whether its in our own tunes or embellishing someone elses in a cover band.i love good tones and good tunes.the CD just made me say "wow,if he can do that..."

i have a studio in my house since '08.i recorded a handful of tunes and started but never finished some others.i'm just finishing up a crusty/punk/grindcore cd then i am workin on an instrumental thing i started 3 yrs ago.https://soundcloud.com/silence-the-masse ... d-demo-mix

i just want to know gear,recording techniques.anything u can to give insight on the recording medium.

next up D.Strouds turn.i just got this the other day.
 
that was a great read.. I thought there was going to be some use of the Randall MTS stuff in there somewhere? Or am I confusing my posters on this one..

I'm interested in what you have done with the cabinet in the closet. Do you guys find it works better to use a moving blanket all around it to keep the sound source isolated somewhat into the microphone? I'm at the dry wall stage of my little home studio and i have an older oversized closet that i am leaving the doors off of so i can fit my cab in there and possibly a vocal booth or area where sound is controlled a little more.
 
it is obvious to me that the secret to Chub's tone is the increased ambience from seating the cabinet next to the 2 drawer metal filing cabinet :lol: :LOL:

seriously though, this disc, Pete Thorn's, and Darren Stroud's disc are all must haves for people into instrumental guitar rock.

Anybody else have an instrumental disc on Rig Talk?
 
This. U don't need to be vai or satch to put out an instrumental cd. Just need to be yourself and have a couple bucks!lol.
 
mikehickey":w9vpck9z said:
it is obvious to me that the secret to Chub's tone is the increased ambience from seating the cabinet next to the 2 drawer metal filing cabinet :lol: :LOL:

seriously though, this disc, Pete Thorn's, and Darren Stroud's disc are all must haves for people into instrumental guitar rock.

Anybody else have an instrumental disc on Rig Talk?

Ed Degenaro
Mike Fortin
Andee Blacksugar
Pete Laramee

And I'm sure I'm forgetting a whole lot of others!!


http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/SheerVelocity
 
Nice orange walls, who is your designer?


Some drunk canadian?
 
Digital Jams":zm4z8am1 said:
Nice orange walls, who is your designer?


Some drunk canadian?

Same exact color as the walls in Ivans pics in the Superstrats thread. I saw his pics and said, "uh oh, RVS is going to tell Ivan his walls are orange from the comfort of his own doody colored living room".
 
Gorehog":2yu9olg1 said:
CT ,to my knowledge is not hopping on the tour bus traveling the world etc etc.my take is,you wrote some tunes recorded it at ur leisure and pit them on CD and released it.which is what playing guitar is all about.sure theres that portion where u just hafta learn that Rhoads solo,or learn the Satriani tune just to see if your good enuff to do it.but in reality,making music is the reason we/i play guitar.to express ourselves.whether its in our own tunes or embellishing someone elses in a cover band.i love good tones and good tunes.the CD just made me say "wow,if he can do that..."

i have a studio in my house since '08.i recorded a handful of tunes and started but never finished some others.i'm just finishing up a crusty/punk/grindcore cd then i am workin on an instrumental thing i started 3 yrs ago.https://soundcloud.com/silence-the-masse ... d-demo-mix

i just want to know gear,recording techniques.anything u can to give insight on the recording medium.

next up D.Strouds turn.i just got this the other day.

Gorehog,
You are correct, I am not touring. Well, except hardware stores, I had to go to three different ones to find a trenching shovel today. :lol: :LOL:

You are exactly correct with my situation. These were a group of tunes that i have been working on for several years on and off. Mostly off. I have never mixed a project before. Never used automation on a computer or otherwise. Never learned how to use compression or eq. There is zero compression or eq on anything on my CD because I seriously don't know how to do it. The drums are mainly programmed by me using EZDrummer and the cymbals are from an old copy of Drumkit From Hell that I ran on my old computer. Those are EQ'd and compressed in the samples so that's why I used them. I tried to get my guitar and bass tones as good as possible while recording because again I knew I didn't know how to make them better otherwise.

I really put off finishing this for a couple of years. The reason I called it For Some Time Now is because that's how long I worked on it. I also had a cool sample from the Matrix at the start of the song Mr. Anderson where Agent Smith is interrogating Neo. Smith sits down and says, "As you can see we've had our eye on you FOR SOME TIME NOW Mr. Anderson. It seems you've been living, two lives." and then the song started. I should have just left the samples in that song and two others but I got spooked that the duplicating house wouldn't do it because they insist they won't if you use unlicensed samples.

It took me forever to mix it. It got to the point where I could only work on it for 30-45 minutes and then I didn't want to hear it again for days. If I had it to do over again, I would have hired someone to mix it. But, I'm too cheap hence the whole touring hardware stores to find a trenching shovel instead of hiring someone else to do that job. :lol: :LOL:
 
Kapo_Polenton":1ngzshrl said:
that was a great read.. I thought there was going to be some use of the Randall MTS stuff in there somewhere? Or am I confusing my posters on this one..

I'm interested in what you have done with the cabinet in the closet. Do you guys find it works better to use a moving blanket all around it to keep the sound source isolated somewhat into the microphone? I'm at the dry wall stage of my little home studio and i have an older oversized closet that i am leaving the doors off of so i can fit my cab in there and possibly a vocal booth or area where sound is controlled a little more.

I finished recording this CD two years ago and up until the release of the Randall GTO The Judge module for the MTS series amps I was able to avoid jumping into the MTS world. I liked them but didn't love them. Then the Judge module changed that. I got the RM22 head and a Judge module! You will hear that more in the future.

The details of my ghetto soundproofing situation is this. This bedroom is on the 2nd floor. On the floor in the closet is carpet pad and then carpet. I went to a moving supply company and bought the thickest moving blankets they had. Several of them. I took one of them and quadrupled it up so it was about the size of the bottom of the cab and put it on the carpet. On top of that I bought an Auralex Gramma amp isolation stand and put my 4x12 on top of that. The Gramma really helped separate the cab sound from transferring through the floor making it so my wife and kids downstairs don't have an issue when I play. And believe me, with the non master volume Peacemaker and the Splawn, they were freaking cranking. Peacemaker was on 10 with the THD Hot Plate set to -8. That is crazy loud. For the guys who know Splawns, I had the volume on my Splawn at 10 o'clock. Again, stupid loud.

http://www.auralex.com/sound_isolation_ ... gramma.asp

So the cab is sitting on top of the Auralex thing. I then found a padded gig bag for a 4x12 cabinet. I slipped that over the top of the cabinet, made a small hole in the back to plug the speaker cable in. I also cut a hole in front of one of the speakers for miking. The other three speakers are blasting strainght into a padded gig bag.

The last thing I did was build what looked like the framework for a tall table with no top out of 2x4's. The cabinet sits inside and underneath the 2x4 framework. Inside this framework I have a mic stand and an SM57 on the sweet spot of that one speaker. Over the top of the framework going all the way down to the floor I have quadruple layers of thick moving blankets.

This ghetto sound-proofing thing really does the job though I probably have $300 bucks into it. It has definitely been worthwhile. I can record with my amp cranking and the cab is 6' away from me and I don't need to use headphones, just listening to everything through my monitors at a moderate level. I hate headphones.
 
mikehickey":2akja2ot said:
it is obvious to me that the secret to Chub's tone is the increased ambience from seating the cabinet next to the 2 drawer metal filing cabinet :lol: :LOL:

seriously though, this disc, Pete Thorn's, and Darren Stroud's disc are all must haves for people into instrumental guitar rock.

Anybody else have an instrumental disc on Rig Talk?

That is a vintage filing cabinet made out of alnico steel. The new ones are ceramic and not as warm. What about your CD Mike? There's some smoking and very heavy stuff on there :rock:
 
Chubtone":19jvckn6 said:
mikehickey":19jvckn6 said:
it is obvious to me that the secret to Chub's tone is the increased ambience from seating the cabinet next to the 2 drawer metal filing cabinet :lol: :LOL:

seriously though, this disc, Pete Thorn's, and Darren Stroud's disc are all must haves for people into instrumental guitar rock.

Anybody else have an instrumental disc on Rig Talk?

That is a vintage filing cabinet made out of alnico steel. The new ones are ceramic and not as warm. What about your CD Mike? There's some smoking and very heavy stuff on there :rock:

I am currently arranging 2 file cabinets next to an old Basketweave cab and am leaving the top drawer of one open and the bottom drawer of the other open, creating a virtual panning reverb that could never be achieved with just one file cab...

I am just finishing up an bunch of instrumental stuff right now, i have 10 songs mixed and 3 to lay solos on then I am done with it and hope to make it into a real disc shortly thereafter.
 
the Aurlex stuff is great. I have a bunch of it in my studio. 2x3 panels, covered the walls and ceiling right by the amps. I covered my windows with the stuff and put wedges situated all around the room. My room is also on the second floor of the house. I need to get 4 Great GRAMMA's for the 4x12's
 
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