OldSkoolNJ
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Big Muff and he also used a DS-1
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CaseyCor
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Forgot to post this last night. Found this awhile back. Billy's Big Muff he used to record Siamese Dream, complete with his settings.
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CaseyCor
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Here's a really cool interview with Billy about the guitar sounds on "Gish" ad "Siamese Dream". A lot of talk about the "Soul" amp, Billy's JCM 800 100 watt.
http://glittercop.blogspot.com/2009/10/ ... ds-of.html
http://glittercop.blogspot.com/2009/10/ ... ds-of.html
D-Rock
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Did Billy lay the Muff on top of the Marshalls gain? Or just over the clean channel?
Neeklaus
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wondering this too.D-Rock":1cyutw5m said:
never owned or used a fuzz pedal before. sure overdrive/distortion pedals but never a FUZZ pedal.
what's the proper way to use these suckers?
JakeAC5253
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Neeklaus":1qnrm7uy said:
Doesn't matter really, people use them either way. Run them into a clean/mostly clean channel and you end up with a David Gilmour vibe. Run them into a dirty sound and you get a heavy/doomy sound like Candlemass or Electric Wizard. That's part of what makes fuzz pedals so cool, they are more versatile than a lot of people realize
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CaseyCor
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Ran with a bit of gain from the Marshall as far as I know.
droptrd
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BSRIAudio
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The "creamy dreamer mod" may be 4-5 components but the actual Creamy Dreamer pedal has significantly more differences from a stock muff circuit. I have one and its a very cool pedal but Skreddy's muffs really sound much nicer to me.
Neeklaus
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so if I wanted to give a fuzz a try and I'm into the the pumpkin sound....which one should I pick for my first? 
JakeAC5253
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Neeklaus":1dvxj4fb said:so if I wanted to give a fuzz a try and I'm into the the pumpkin sound....which one should I pick for my first?
The new NYC Muffs have a very different circuit than the older Muffs. See if you can grab a Ram's Head or opamp (very rare) muff. If you are handy with a soldering iron, you could "build your own clone" from the website.
http://www.buildyourownclone.com/
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CaseyCor
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I'd say start with an OpAmp Big Muff PI like I posted above. A Big Muff type fuzz is really the key. Hard to find these days. BYOC is you're friend
I also dig the Lovetone 200lbs of Tone pedal. I'd think it could cop some of these tones. I've not used one in this fashion before, more for a liquidy violin like lead sound.
I also dig the Lovetone 200lbs of Tone pedal. I'd think it could cop some of these tones. I've not used one in this fashion before, more for a liquidy violin like lead sound.
Neeklaus
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hmm building a clone sounds fun...probably a bit cheaper too. which one do you suggest...once again for a pumpkins sound
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CaseyCor
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As Jake said, you'd be looking for a "Ram's Head", not the "Triange" Big Muff type.
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CaseyCor
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http://www.buildyourownclone.com/beaver.htmlNeeklaus":1ygcy3ha said:
I'd say the Large Beaver is the way to go.
Go with the Ram's Head specs, or make it switchable between the two for some extra options.
Neeklaus
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Neeklaus
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nice!
droptrd
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My angry beaver (79 opamp muff clone) is for sale 
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CaseyCor
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How much sir? I'm no good with a soldering iron, got the shakes from CTS and breaking my wrists a few 100 times, haha.
droptrd
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I never use it soo...I guess $50. Its got over $80 worth of parts not couting paint, knobs and cosmetics. I made noise with it for 15 minutes once and took it to a studio to lay one track with it. It is very cool though. I built it for the pumpkin tone.
Teen spirit came out when I was in 8th grade so I was big into the grunge thing in highschool. The pumpkins were very influential to me. This pedal nails the siamese dream tone.
Teen spirit came out when I was in 8th grade so I was big into the grunge thing in highschool. The pumpkins were very influential to me. This pedal nails the siamese dream tone.
