Curious about these fine German amps.

[dbsens13]

I want one. But, which one? From what I've seen the Herbert is a Metal beast. The VH4 (which is what I have my eye on) seems to be a metal beast but also pretty versatile. I honestly don't know too much about these amps. I've focused all my attention to studying Mesa Boogies. I'm about the buy a Roadster and after a while I'll pick up a Mark V to run them both in stereo. And as soon as I finish my Bachelors degree in a couple years (finally. . . I'm 27) I want to pick up a Diezel. I've thought about having two separate rigs. One being the Mark V/Roadster in stereo rig. And the other being a Diezel (probably VH4) and maybe. . . a RKII? Herbert? Rockerverb? Help me out here guys. As far as what I like. . . I love metal. I love high gain. Yet I love beautiful cleans and bitching reverb. I also love a badass crunch. Think everything from as mellow foo fighters to crunch FF to Every TIme I DIe to Lamb of God to Deftones or Korn. But, I also love Santana and all that is a wide range I know. I'm just attempting to plan out my second stereo rig. Practicality aside. lets have some fun here. And if any of you dudes have pics of sweet Diezel rigs or Diezel/mesa rigs please show. Thanks duders!

 

[Mailman1971]

My opinion....go with the Herbert. I just had my Vh4 that I loved to death. Always thought the herbert was just a metal machine. Was I ever wrong. It can do it all.
Everything you mentioned.....HERBERT does just right!
Others will agree and disagree with this though.
Thats just my 2 cents.

Good luck on the hunt!

Dan

 

[herbertmark5]

i run a herbert with a mark 5 in stereo beyond amazing

 

[dbsens13]

i came across this demo. . .

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XOTI1NzU5NjQ=.html

and was seriously blown away.

I think I may just pick up the Roadster and then a Mark V and Herbert later and just use the Roadster as my practice amp and run the other two in stereo.

Do you have video's or pics of your Herbert/Mark V set up?

Thanks guys

 

[cml694]

I had a Road King II head before getting my Herbert and they are extremely sounding amps. What do you want to know?

 

[herbertmark5]

i came across this demo. . .

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XOTI1NzU5NjQ=.html

and was seriously blown away.

I think I may just pick up the Roadster and then a Mark V and Herbert later and just use the Roadster as my practice amp and run the other two in stereo.

Do you have video's or pics of your Herbert/Mark V set up?

Thanks guys[
this is myonly pic till i get a new camera/

 

[Jonny333]

Herbert sounds like what you want from the description

 

[dbsens13]

Herbert sounds like what you want from the description

I think you're right I just have to wait until my bank account agrees with us both!

 

[RJF]

Herbert will spank the VH4. The Herbert is more of a jazz amp......... and a blues amp, country amp, classic rock amp, modern rock amp, and full on metal amp. Once you have a Herbert, you're done buying amps.

I also like Mesa and have an early Dual Rectifier 2 channel that I love, but nothing holds a candle to the Herbert. Get yourself a Herbert head, Diezel cab, and some decent effects. The fact that the Herbert and VH4 are midi is a huge plus. I have a pretty simple setup and love it.

 

[Mailman1971]

Herbert will spank the VH4. The Herbert is more of a jazz amp......... and a blues amp, country amp, classic rock amp, modern rock amp, and full on metal amp. Once you have a Herbert, you're done buying amps.

 

[Ventura]

Herbert will spank the VH4. The Herbert is more of a jazz amp......... and a blues amp, country amp, classic rock amp, modern rock amp, and full on metal amp. Once you have a Herbert, you're done buying amps.

Oh the debate starts SO quickly!!

V.

 

[PaulyPanacea]

herbert...and dont look back!!!

 

[Mailman1971]

Herbert will spank the VH4. The Herbert is more of a jazz amp......... and a blues amp, country amp, classic rock amp, modern rock amp, and full on metal amp. Once you have a Herbert, you're done buying amps.

Oh the debate starts SO quickly!!

V.

Didnt take long for me.....

Join us on the DARK SIDE........

 

[stefvorcide]

Herbert will spank the VH4. The Herbert is more of a jazz amp......... and a blues amp, country amp, classic rock amp, modern rock amp, and full on metal amp. Once you have a Herbert, you're done buying amps.

Oh the debate starts SO quickly!!

V.

Didnt take long for me.....

Join us on the DARK SIDE........

*nod with everything quoted

 

[dbsens13]

Herbert will spank the VH4. The Herbert is more of a jazz amp......... and a blues amp, country amp, classic rock amp, modern rock amp, and full on metal amp. Once you have a Herbert, you're done buying amps.

Oh the debate starts SO quickly!!

V.

Didnt take long for me.....

Join us on the DARK SIDE........

*nod with everything quoted

righteous avatar pic dude!

 

[AngryGoldfish]

I dunno, I'm not particularly experienced with Diezel, but for Deftones and Korn I'd probably go for the VH4. It has more of that tight, Marshall grind. While the Herbert has a more saturated shred-type tone with an unspeakable low-end that, from my experience, begged to be driven really hard in a huge band setting. It was a Fletcher Munson amp.

I don't know if you've got the new Deftones album, but Steph's tone is really tight and aggressive on it and far more articulate than his older albums. Which, personally, I think the VH4 shines at.

It's also capable of pretty much everything else accept for stoner rock and mellow jazz/classical. But so is the Herbert - it's also incredibly versatile. I've just got this niggling feeling a VH4 might be more up your alley.

 

[GMH]

i run a herbert with a mark 5 in stereo beyond amazing

I run a Herbert with a Road king - same result They compliment each other perfectly!

 

[FourT6and2]

I dunno, I'm not particularly experienced with Diezel, but for Deftones and Korn I'd probably go for the VH4. It has more of that tight, Marshall grind. While the Herbert has a more saturated shred-type tone with an unspeakable low-end that, from my experience, begged to be driven really hard in a huge band setting. It was a Fletcher Munson amp.

I don't know if you've got the new Deftones album, but Steph's tone is really tight and aggressive on it and far more articulate than his older albums. Which, personally, I think the VH4 shines at.

It's also capable of pretty much everything else accept for stoner rock and mellow jazz/classical. But so is the Herbert - it's also incredibly versatile. I've just got this niggling feeling a VH4 might be more up your alley.

Totally agree.

Herbert doesn't have as much emphasis in the mids as the VH4. For myself, at least, I prefer lots and lots of mids. That Marshall grind is definitely present much more in the VH4 than the Herbert.

VH4 is THE BEST IN ALL THE WOOOOOOORLD, SON!

 

[Hard&Heavy]

herbert...and dont look back!!!

This

 

[Mailman1971]

herbert...and dont look back!!!

This

+100 on this.........
I been thru them all........and this is THE BEST!!!