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flcmcya
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OTTN and High and Dry are all time! 
Capulin Overdrive
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srommes":3v379x96 said:Racerxrated":3v379x96 said:At 17 we were playing High n Dry and Let it Go back in 83..with no singer lol. Saw them headline at the LaCrosse ctr here in Wi the same year...they were and still are the LOUDEST show I've ever seen. Priest-Screaming for Vengeance the year before is a distant 2nd. Years later in '94 we started off the main stage at Rock Fest here in Wi with Switch 625 and ran it right into 'New York City' by the Cult. Love the Leppard!
I was at both of those shows in LaX. I believe Uriah Heap opened for DL and if I remember correctly Heaven opened for Priest. I've seen a bunch of killer shows at the LaCrosse Center. Great memories!
Met and had beers with the guys from Heaven in a little bar in KC, they weren't too happy to be playing a dive after opening up for Priest in front of thousands of people.
Mr. Willy
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I'm in the same boat as the OP. I've gone backwards in listening to DL. I was just getting into rock and music when Hysteria came out. As such, it's going to hold a special place for because I listened to it during my formative years. My older cousin had Pyromania on cassette, and I remember being intrigued by the artwork. I didn't even know what pyromania was or who DL was, but I knew as I was looking at the album that it was something very cool. But now, listening back to those first three DL albums, I can se what a lot of guys don't like Hysteria at all. If I'd have grown up on the first two, and even the third, I'd hate Hysteria too. Those first three albums, especially OTTN and H&D, rock sooo hard. I'm convinced that Steve Clarke was the dominate song/riff writer for the band. I might go even further and say that Def Leppard's edge started to decline when the Clarke/Willis combo was done. Love it or hate it, Hysteria was a logical progression from Pyromania. My favorite is High and Dry. They're just so young, hungry, raw, and pissed off on that album.
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cnote
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Was a drum machine used on High N Dry in place of Rick Allen?
The snare drum sound is huge, and Mutt didn't think Rick played in time well enough for Pyromania. But was Mutt ok with Rick playing on HND?
My favorite album by Def, and one of my top 5 all time. I just hate knowing drum machines were used so often back then.
The snare drum sound is huge, and Mutt didn't think Rick played in time well enough for Pyromania. But was Mutt ok with Rick playing on HND?
My favorite album by Def, and one of my top 5 all time. I just hate knowing drum machines were used so often back then.
Chubtone
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I don't think drum machines were used very often at all in heavy rock when High N Dry was recorded. What was it, 1980? I saw them on tour for it in 1981 so I highly doubt a drum machine was used. And early drum machine sounds were so obvious. My guess is no drum machine on High N Dry.
I think Mutt Lange might have complained about Rick Allen's timing when they decided they wanted to record absolutely perfect albums that rocked way, way less than the first two.
I think Mutt Lange might have complained about Rick Allen's timing when they decided they wanted to record absolutely perfect albums that rocked way, way less than the first two.
Greazygeo
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I got a nice turntable recently and have been back to listening to records. Broke out my copy of this and it's completely trashed. I totally wore it out. Scored a better copy and it sounds awesome.
When I think of benchmark rock tones, this is one of my top picks.
When I think of benchmark rock tones, this is one of my top picks.
shredhead7
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cnote":1c9541nz said:
No, but they used them on Pyro and Hysteria. Rick talks about it on the behind the music, how he was pissed off that they (Mutt) wouldn't let him play on Pyro. Even then Mutt wanted AC/DC with a dance/disco beat and production. Which the song Pyro is pretty close, considering 1983 production. Hysteria is the pinnacle of that experiment for DL and Shania was that country version.
thenine
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lespaul6":3tw3k0jy said:
yep! Big fan of this album. Top to bottom.
Kapo_Polenton
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shredhead7":5qd6mrtx said:
If EZ drummer had been around in 85, half these albums probably would have been recorded with no real drummer. Such a shame because as Chubtone mentioned, the real drummer albums rock so much harder. The timing isn't always perfect and this is what makes it sound so alive. Oh but wait, Ezdrummer2 and these other programs call this the "humanize" button. News flash, still doesn't make it rock any harder. Death to drum samples and PC drummers! I still really like Hysteria though but I would have liked it just as much with a real drummer. I can say though that Appetite for Destruction would have sounded like shit with drums that were perfect if Adler hadn't been cut loose on that one. Love the drumming on that album. It makes it what it is. raw.
Moshaholic
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Oblivion DC":3hqiwb4w said:
When i got into def leppard it was right after they released OTTN and H&D did not come out for a while after that.
I honestly love the first album more than anything they have done... the solos on satellite, rooks off, rock brigade are amazing...
Actually they had their own thing going on "riff and sound wise" to some degree if you listen to songs like "answer to the master".
I totally love H&D but overall it seemed less "complex" of an album than OTTN to me...
Fragglerick
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+1snowdog":10b043g5 said:
ibenhad
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Pete Willis was the man, fired to be replaced by PC who couldn't lick Pete's ass. I too saw them open for Ozzy at Magic Mountain here in NY on August 8, 1981. That show was one of the best shows I have ever seen. OTTN is so damn underrated. Without Wasted DL may have never gone any further. Pete was co-writer on a lot of songs off the 1st 3 records.
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Monster Plexi
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Mailman1971":2bhyhwe5 said:"you got me running" my favorite Def Leppard song by far is on that album.
+1 right here!!
SFW
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So no one here has had to fire a band member who couldn't get their shit together? It has been discussed in several interviews and Willis has openly admitted that he was a wreck. I don't see what all the Phil Collen hate is about. He obviously played well enough to get the gig and has remained in a multi-platinum selling band. Personally, I think he's pretty good at what he does.
messenger
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I think what Phil has put on the albums have fit perfectly.
V-Type
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PC isnt a better guitarist nor writer. And I dont think Sucks either, However Imo he got less drunk and remained more serviceable for the most part whereas Pete when tanked,which was more and more often just couldn't quite hang with the production demands.
I can hear a big difference in Clark&Willis vs Clark&Collen.
I think we All can agree that Steve Clark was much of The substance behind DL.
I can hear a big difference in Clark&Willis vs Clark&Collen.
I think we All can agree that Steve Clark was much of The substance behind DL.
messenger
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Seems to me that the bass player (forget his name) does a lot of the writing
MARK1970
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Beyond Black":2ovyu45z said:First three albums were great! After that....
I totally agree. They do not rock anymore. Same thing with Queensryche. Although, their last album was their bet since Empire.
SLOgriff
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High N Dry was pretty good, but the tones and songs seem to have a common feel and groove. Pyromania just blew me away...great songs and all seemed different. Pyromania had more polish and punch IMHO.
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eco70777
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high 'n' dry is the one i love and i remember been in California (vacation) when i was a little kid and hearing that album for the first time.
I was just a kid, but that thing stuck on my until i was in my teen years and then i bought the album.
Great memories, great songs!
I was just a kid, but that thing stuck on my until i was in my teen years and then i bought the album.
Great memories, great songs!