mooncobra":2b7vjbme said:
very similar, but I prefer the BKP.
Yeah very subtle differences.
Thanks for listening mate.
Bxlxaxkxe":2b7vjbme said:
Love your pickup comparison vids lately man.
In the mix, that Black Dog seems to have a bit more cut to it, sounding a little better to my ear.
But when it cuts to just guitar (1:40 or so), you can hear the midrange magic of the MCP. I can hear a similar complexity in my Afwayu. Downright addictive and fun as hell to play.
Again, love these...keep em up!
Any experience with MCPs and BKPs in LP style guitars? Looking for a new bridge pup for my PRS Stripper. Looking for something with a similar low end grind to the afwayu, but a little more open and not quite as dark. Wade suggested the Hot Head. Probably going to follow his suggestion.
Thanks man!
I agree totally. I like the Detroiter far more when playing the guitars in the room.
But yeah in the mix, there's not much in it.
That midrange magic seems to be a common trait of Motor City Pickups.
Each bridge model I've tried has had this thing going on with the mids that is just awesome!
Really complex and musical mids.
I haven't had any MCP's in my Edwards John Sykes Les Paul, but I have had various BKP's (Cold Sweat, Miracle Man, Aftermath and now the Black Dog from this clip).
Of all the BKP's I've tried in the Edwards, I like the Black Dog the most.
I have the HotHead set in my G&L Black Ice ASAT Telecaster and I have to say it's pretty much my favorite guitar. It's definitely got that MCP midrange complexity and grind going on.
If Wade says go for it, then I'd go for it!
He's been 100% bang on the money every time I've explained what I needed for my guitars.
nigelpkay":2b7vjbme said:
I've had both these pickups, difference is pretty subtle just as the video shows. BKP is a bit more rounded on top and thicker low mids (also slightly less hot, tad more open), MCP more bite and snarl in the upper mids. They are both excellent hot PAFs.
Agreed! Both killer pickups.
I have to say though, in this guitar I find the Detroiter to be thicker overall than the Black Dog, especially in the lows.
The Black Dog sounds slightly more percussive and open.
Did you try the pickups in the same guitar?
fearhk213":2b7vjbme said:
Great comparison clip and playing. Definitely more similar than different. I dig the Detroiter here. I like its balance better and the way it gells with the drums a little better. The Black Dog is tighter and cuts more, but the mids are honkier in a way I don't like as much. Once you started doing some post eq and adding bass these differences would get even more subtle, though.
That's an interesting point about the way the Detroiter seems to work with the drums a tad better.
My ear hears it that way also.
Cheers.
KentC":2b7vjbme said:
Holy crap those are close. The only real difference that I can hear through my laptop speakers is that the BK seems a tad looser and more "scratchy" sounding. The Detroiter sounded like it was a tiny bit rounder. I would be very happy with either of these. They are so close to one another that I think that a little EQing on your amp would probably fill in whatever gap you might have felt was missing from the other.
Yep it's very close. They are so similar in their voicing that the differences are very subtle.
I hear the Black Dog as having a tighter attack, but with more grind going on in the lows. And yeah it seems to have more fizz to it.
Whereas the Detroiter has a more relaxed attack, less grind in the lows but more beef in the lower mids.
Whenever it cuts to the Detroiter, the guitar's sonic footprint seems to fill out a touch more, and when it cuts to the Black Dog the guitars sound a touch leaner.
Thanks for listening.
