Diezel Single Channel amp

[nitro]

Why doesnt Peter(Diezel) come out with a single channel amp like a Hot Rodded Marshall plexi.

 

[brickford]

Why doesnt Peter(Diezel) come out with a single channel amp like a Hot Rodded Marshall plexi.

I guess cuz Peter came out with the Vh4 and the rest was history.....

 

[nitro]

There are alot of guitar players (including me) that dont care for multiple channel amps.

 

[cardinal]

VH4 works very well as a one channel amp if that's how you want to use it. Channels one, two, and three are very touch sensitive and responsive to volume knob changes. I typically park it in channel two or three and just get clean vs dirty manipulating the guitar/pick attack. Channel four, a bit less so, but still very responsive when you consider just how much preamp gain is involved in that channel.

 

[nitro]

Why spend all the money on a multiple channel amp.

 

[kahawe]

Why spend all that money on more than 6litres in 12 boxer cylinders when 2 cylinders and 50ccm can get you driving as well? Why doesn't Porsche release more cheap fixie aluminium bikes?

 

[brickford]

To me multi-channelled amps are like that old saying....
"Rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it"

 

[nitro]

Kahawe,why would I by a multiple channel amp and only use one channel to me thats just a waste.You car example didnt make sents at all.

 

[brickford]

I'm sure if Papa Diezel wants to make a one channel amp, he can make one. Maybe if you have enough $$$ he will make YOU one. (After me of course

If Peter was to make a single channel amp it'd have to be in a combo foam for ease of carry etc bit like a mesa mk1 size but i look at those transformers in the daddy amps and think there's no way to fit it all in, then there's the ultimate debate of all.... which ch from the diezel range do you base the single channel off , ch3 hagen? ch3 vh4? ch2 +mid cut herbert....?? me thinks it would be openning a can of worms because every one likes/prefers one of the big daddy amp over the others.

Didn't Peter mention a little while ago that there was a low wattage clean amp that takes effects etc on the drawing boards?? maybe this will be a amp for the single minded one channellers out there.

Maybe the rack based Diezels that are on the drawing boards may be more or less single ch etc, who knows but in the mean time i am happy with every Diezel amp that's been created.

 

[hunter]

Might still make sense if it can bring the price point down, new potential buyers might get a Diezel instead of a Mesa or something. I wonder though, case, transformers, and many of the parts would be the same. Simpler boards, bit less of the cheaper components, less pots, less wiring, less preamp tubes. Maybe it could be 1000$ less than a VH4, especially if it were 50W.

 

[Metaddict]

What about the Einstein? Or the Schmidt?
Maybe the new D-Moll is also intersting.
My suggestion is if you can find a Einstein you should have evrything you want in one Amp.
Yeah i know it is a 2 Channel Amp but see it it this way.The first Channel is from clean to Heavy and the second one is there just in case you need it

 

[hunter]

What about the Einstein? Or the Schmidt?
Maybe the new D-Moll is also intersting.
My suggestion is if you can find a Einstein you should have evrything you want in one Amp.
Yeah i know it is a 2 Channel Amp but see it it this way.The first Channel is from clean to Heavy and the second one is there just in case you need it

That is true as well.

 

[kahawe]

You car example didnt make sents at all.

Then you did not understand the analogy and what I was trying to say.

Porsche and Lamborghini don't offer cheap fixies or 50ccm scooters or Smart-sized cars because that's just not what they do; they are specialized shops and that is their selling position and they avoid having to compete on the small-sedan mass-market and on top of that I am sure they downright would not want to put out products like that because they wouldn't exactly feel proud of them. One of the luxuries when catering to a very specific segment.
Although hardly anyone driving a 911turbo or Murciélago really puts more than 1/3 of all the available power to use that does not mean you will have 50ccm 911s any time soon - no matter how much and how many people who can't afford a real 911 would welcome that.


You have the Einstein and the D-Moll available as "smaller" packages. If these don't do it for you, well then better keep saving $$$ because I don't see them coming out with a 500-bucks amp any time soon.... this may sound harsh but it's the truth. They aren't catering to that segment.

 

[Rødskjegg]

The hot rodded Marshall market is saturated and I think Peter should do whatever HE wants, that's what making the Diezels so distinct.

 

[nitro]

Kakawe, Who is saying to build the amp cheap just because its a single channel doesnt mean it has to be build cheap.. .Rodskjegg "Peter should what ever he wants"what?????... It was a suggestion thats all,he should come out with a single channel they would sell like hotcakes...

 

[Reiep]

A single channel based on Hagen channel 2 + a boost for brootalz would rule

 

[brickford]

A single channel based on Hagen channel 2 + a boost for brootalz would rule

Here we go.... Can of worms opened....Ultimate debate begins lol

 

[ericsabbath]

The hot rodded Marshall market is saturated and I think Peter should do whatever HE wants, that's what making the Diezels so distinct.

that's quite relative
the famous "mega" mode on the VH4 and einstein IS a hot rodded marshall circuit
and a pretty simple one, by the way
slightly tweaked jcm 800 preamp with tons of gain and even more mids
and that's what 80% of the users are looking for in the VH4
I love that sound, but I just can't afford keeping a $4000+ amp that also weights a ton only to use a single function (I don't even use loops)
a simplified einstein would be much more interesting for lots of players
2 channels, shared eq, maybe dedicated gain and volume, simple serial loop
for me, an avenger-like amp would be perfect