Played my first Diezel gig (VH2)

[dougywarren]

Whelp, it's the first gig I've ever played I didn't feel I had to make any major adjustments to my rig afterwards like pedal order, swapping overdrives, complaining about not hearing myself, wanting a new guitar or amp, ect.

Wow! What an AMP!!!! I've always gigged with Fender style amps and I'm so happy to have something with 2 channel amp gain now.

Question for more experienced Diezel users. The only "issue" I had was trying to get the volume and cut right with dialing in the amp. Which can take several gigs with any amp and getting used to dialing in different rooms. Where is your starting point with Depth and Presence as well as EQ on the gain channel? I noticed I had a bit more trouble getting the gain channel (Channel 2) to cut like I wanted compared to the cleans on Channel 1 which were glorious and I had compliments on my cleans from several people there. I use a Zilla Super Fatboy (V30+ alnico Cream) which has ample low end that's overwhelming at home with any volume so the depth is usually at zero. And presence also gets overwhelming at home like most amps with a presence knob. For the last few songs I went over and turned up the depth and presence to about 11:00 to try it out (worried it was too loud) but no complaints and it definitely started getting that Diezel grind like a dark chainsaw cutting through. Had the Master around 10:00 and Channel 2 gain at 11:00, and volume around 11:00.

 

[Dominik]

Whelp, it's the first gig I've ever played I didn't feel I had to make any major adjustments to my rig afterwards like pedal order, swapping overdrives, complaining about not hearing myself, wanting a new guitar or amp, ect.

Wow! What an AMP!!!! I've always gigged with Fender style amps and I'm so happy to have something with 2 channel amp gain now.

Question for more experienced Diezel users. The only "issue" I had was trying to get the volume and cut right with dialing in the amp. Which can take several gigs with any amp and getting used to dialing in different rooms. Where is your starting point with Depth and Presence as well as EQ on the gain channel? I noticed I had a bit more trouble getting the gain channel (Channel 2) to cut like I wanted compared to the cleans on Channel 1 which were glorious and I had compliments on my cleans from several people there. I use a Zilla Super Fatboy (V30+ alnico Cream) which has ample low end that's overwhelming at home with any volume so the depth is usually at zero. And presence also gets overwhelming at home like most amps with a presence knob. For the last few songs I went over and turned up the depth and presence to about 11:00 to try it out (worried it was too loud) but no complaints and it definitely started getting that Diezel grind like a dark chainsaw cutting through. Had the Master around 10:00 and Channel 2 gain at 11:00, and volume around 11:00.
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Start with Deep and Bass and presence at 9 o clock. On high Volume (Master 10-12) you will Need less Bass and Deep and presence.
9-10 give room /place for the Bass Guitar and the Kick. More presence 1-2 o clock gives more cut if needed. More volume Channel so 12-1 feels more cutting. But the Main Master Volumen with Diezel is the Middle: turn that up while /during playing with the band and you will know and feel.
Cheers

 

[FastRedPonyCar]

OOF... that DSL on the left... my arch nemesis. Those amps are sledgehammers on stage and ultimately having to share the stage with one was what drove me to sell my Bogner XTC and get a Splawn Nitro

As for getting your own sound right, while I can't specifically comment on dialing in the VH2, I can offer my own general live playing tips that I feel apply to all amps I've taken on stage.

I would suggest running your cab's facing backwards. Open back cabs work well for this but it lets you run the amps louder without the direct line of sound crushing the crowd. It will also let you mic up and get ultimately a better and more controllable sound coming from the PA and any monitoring you're using.

I always run a hybrid setup live running a tube amp into a load box or speaker sim box like the Ox box or Boss TAE. This gives me a consistent great di sound that can run to the house and if I still want to use a cab on stage, I can and I can use the attenuation to drop the volume so that it doesn't overwhelm the PA.

You also have the option to run a line out signal with the cab sim to an FRFR on stage.

 

[skelt101]

@dougywarren
If you're trying to get more cut from channel 2, my advice would be to look at the Middle control. Don't be afraid to absolutely crank it Adam Jones style, i.e. all the way up!

 

[Techdeth]

@dougywarren
If you're trying to get more cut from channel 2, my advice would be to look at the Middle control. Don't be afraid to absolutely crank it Adam Jones style, i.e. all the way up!

Yes . I have mids and treble high to cut with band . Trying weird settings sometimes just work . Try it all !

 

[SonVolt]

What do you mean by "cut"? Do you mean channel 2 is too compressed and you feel like your sound disappears vs say the clean channel which remains loud and punchy? That can be a problem for all channel switching high-gain amps.

 

[Techdeth]

What do you mean by "cut"? Do you mean channel 2 is too compressed and you feel like your sound disappears vs say the clean channel which remains loud and punchy? That can be a problem for all channel switching high-gain amps.

I don’t find it too compressed at all . IMO