Diezel vh4 pedal?

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Any videos out there?
I see they are in stock some places but I don't need any clips.
 
Curious as well. Not to high jack the thread but how exactly does a pre amp pedal work? How would I run this pedal through the clean channel on my tsl 122 combo?
 
I found a Halloween sale that'll end soon, and I'm 17 so money's real tight. So, I took a gamble and ordered the pedal.

The pedal has two outputs, one to go into the front of an amp, and one to go straight into a power amp.

I think I may receive the pedal in around a week or so since I got free priority shipping. I have a Fender Twin along with a Les Paul and a Strat at my disposal I could possibly demo with.

The pedal was mentioned here a while ago.
 
APO":17192tdg said:
I found a Halloween sale that'll end soon, and I'm 17 so money's real tight. So, I took a gamble and ordered the pedal.

The pedal has two outputs, one to go into the front of an amp, and one to go straight into a power amp.

I think I may receive the pedal in around a week or so since I got free priority shipping. I have a Fender Twin along with a Les Paul and a Strat at my disposal I could possibly demo with.

The pedal was mentioned here a while ago.

Congrats :thumbsup: !!!!

This has been on my Radar for a long time. Please report back once you have had the opportunity to take it through the rounds.
 
Just a quick update, I haven't gotten the pedal yet, but I should have it sometime tomorrow!

Here's the pedal on the official Diezel USA site by the way.
 
cardinal":2opaysq1 said:
Diezel seriously needs better marketing folks.
Yeah... Not even a video to check out. I am always so surprised that unless someone sends them clips there are none.

I also dislike that there is not any information about how Peter thinks the amps sound/stack.up against each other. Sort of a comparison. Of the amps. I hate having to beg in the forum for "vh4 vs fokker" etc.

As per the copy you would think all the diesels sound exactly the same.
 
cardinal":248g1wo5 said:
Diezel seriously needs better marketing folks.

Diezel is a very small company , Peter D's wife helps solder the components.

If you need support you can email and it's almost always Peter D that answers, sometimes Peter S.

There are no "marketing" folks.

They do it all.
 
rickenbacker198":scltvmpw said:
cardinal":scltvmpw said:
Diezel seriously needs better marketing folks.

Diezel is a very small company , Peter D's wife helps solder the components.

If you need support you can email and it's almost always Peter D that answers, sometimes Peter S.

There are no "marketing" folks.

They do it all.

And I think that's a bit of an issue. They're releases are falling through the cracks. They make the Zerrer, which looks cool. But I doubt many people know of it and even less know what it sounds like. And this VH4 pedal is the same. They had three amps (Herbert, VH4, Einstein) that I think were understood. But the Schmidt, Paul, Focker, D-Moll, Hagen seem hard to describe and I'm confused about what they are supposed to be. Apparently there's a VH2 now, what's that and where is it?

Diezel makes fantastic amps, and Peter is a super nice guy. No doubt about that. But Adam Jones fans alone can't carry the company. It needs to be out there more, I think.
 
Just support them by buying the pedal, spread the news and post clips.
 
cardinal":2madjwdd said:
They had three amps (Herbert, VH4, Einstein) that I think were understood. But the Schmidt, Paul, Focker, D-Moll, Hagen seem hard to describe and I'm confused about what they are supposed to be. Apparently there's a VH2 now, what's that and where is it?
Just my understanding:

Paul is the next step from Einstein. With reverb and midi. It is awesome. Crunches nicely and sings.
Schmidt was a Class A amp with tube reverb, discontinued.
Focker (disc.) was something which will be finalized in the VH2, which is a stripped down VH4. VH2 (2 channels) comes with Langer xformers, so will give you the actual sound which started the companies trademark sound back in the 90s.
Hagen is for metal heads and low tuned stuff.
D-Moll is "Herbie light".

I do own a Paul and a DMoll now and will own a VH2 in the minute it is available here. I think I have the three concepts by Peter covered then :D
 
MetalThrasher":1153e1en said:
Curious as well. Not to high jack the thread but how exactly does a pre amp pedal work? How would I run this pedal through the clean channel on my tsl 122 combo?
Either in front of the amp's clean channel or into the loop's return (which I would recommend). It will sound extremely close to a VH4 then giving you the option of the typical (active) depth of Diezels - pretty much as Zerrer did (which also had a clean/crunch channel). I've used that thru a Randall RT poweramp with excellent results.
There are two outputs, high impedance and line level.
 
duesentrieb":3q5w9nhk said:
cardinal":3q5w9nhk said:
They had three amps (Herbert, VH4, Einstein) that I think were understood. But the Schmidt, Paul, Focker, D-Moll, Hagen seem hard to describe and I'm confused about what they are supposed to be. Apparently there's a VH2 now, what's that and where is it?
Just my understanding:

Paul is the next step from Einstein. With reverb and midi. It is awesome. Crunches nicely and sings.
Schmidt was a Class A amp with tube reverb, discontinued.
Focker (disc.) was something which will be finalized in the VH2, which is a stripped down VH4. VH2 (2 channels) comes with Langer xformers, so will give you the actual sound which started the companies trademark sound back in the 90s.
Hagen is for metal heads and low tuned stuff.
D-Moll is "Herbie light".

I do own a Paul and a DMoll now and will own a VH2 in the minute it is available here. I think I have the three concepts by Peter covered then :D

Ok, that's helpful. I thought the Paul was the evolution of the Schmidt and tbe D-Moll was the evolution of the Einstein (which I think was like a cut down Herbert).

I'm interested in the VH2 (or just getting another VH4).
 
I was also surprised at the complete lack of news about the VH4 pedal.

There was similarly little news about the Zerrer, but EytschPi42 did give a very in depth review; he also did a giveaway.

Anyway once the pedal arrives I'll try to:

-Use as a preamp into effects returns
-Use as a drive pedal
-Mimic a few different artist's sounds both ways
-Test volume roll down and dynamics, also see if a buffer affects such

For artists to mimic, I'll definitely try Barry Stock and Adam Jones since I found their actual VH4 settings. I'll also try getting some Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Incubus, Black Sabbath, Robin Trower, and etcetera types of sounds.
 
thenine":10tystsu said:
looks like separate power supply is required.
It uses phantom power, unless you're amp is a:

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APO":rrrah5av said:
For artists to mimic, . . . Black Sabbath, Robin Trower.
Ha! You'll never get anywhere close to these tone masters with a VH4 (Iommi, Trower).
 
I cannot imagine that the VH4 pedal will disappoint. I have to agree that there is a lack of a real launch. I think they are available????
 
Scuba.Duba":h6h7nyya said:
APO":h6h7nyya said:
For artists to mimic, . . . Black Sabbath, Robin Trower.
Ha! You'll never get anywhere close to these tone masters with a VH4 (Iommi, Trower).

Well, it won't be exact, but I'll still try. The worst that could happen is the VH4's too high gain or too modern sounding.

I was actually thinking I'd like to use a crossover/mixer to run the VH4 parallel with another pedal in the future. I'd like to use the VH4 for lows and low mids, then something with vintage lower gain for upper frequencies.

Is it possible to get some Rectifier reminiscent lows from the VH4, or is it probably too tight?
 
APO":1rjeebj1 said:
Scuba.Duba":1rjeebj1 said:
Is it possible to get some Rectifier reminiscent lows from the VH4, or is it probably too tight?

Just turn the bass up and play looser to get that sluggishness.
 

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