Different types of V30 speakers. Opinions?

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They're all good, but certain eras are gooder than others.

Personally I absolutely love the early 90s UK made v30s.

Racer and others love the Marshall branded "vintage" ones in the late 80s.

Still others prefer the early 2000s Mesa OEM uk v30s.

Even with that there's a ton of variation - I've heard newer orange cabs with Chinese ones that sound fantastic
The 80s Marshall Vintage is more similar to the Marshall labelled T3120 G12 65; vs any other version V30. I compared a Mesa Traditional(Stiletto) cab to a Bogner V30, next up was a Rivera V30 cab. Mesa had the OEM British made V30, while the other 2 had made in China V30s. All 3 cabs sounded practically identical.
The cab seemed to have more of an influence on the tone than the actual speakers.
 
The 80s Marshall Vintage is more similar to the Marshall labelled T3120 G12 65; vs any other version V30. I compared a Mesa Traditional(Stiletto) cab to a Bogner V30, next up was a Rivera V30 cab. Mesa had the OEM British made V30, while the other 2 had made in China V30s. All 3 cabs sounded practically identical.
The cab seemed to have more of an influence on the tone than the actual speakers.

With a group of V30s that are really close, that will 1000% be the case, as it will with any speaker - but the age, doping, cones, etc definitely make a difference, as do the different manufacturers and versions over the years.

I have had the same set of 4 16ohm early 90s V30s that have traveled from cab to cab to cab with me throughout the years, and they sound wildly different between eachother. The top left is the one that I use a 421 on because it has the most low end and low mids. The top left has the most midrange detail, so it gets the 57s (either by itself or in a fredman clip). The bottom left is the odd one out that sounds a little more honky and chinese v30 like.

People take into account the variations in versions and manufacturers; I don't think they take into account the variation from speaker to speaker enough - or guitar to guitar, amp to amp, for that matter. I've played early superleads that sounded WILDLY different from one another. And them super bass and super trem models that sounded more like a stereotypical superlead than an actual superlead.

Especially with gear stuff, this stuff has wild variations. And V30s are one of the most consistently brought up examples for a reason, but I think it's just as much the natural variations as the manufacturing. Just like when producers have a "magic" U87 or Distressor that sounds better or different than others - I have a "magic" v30 that sounds amazing no matter what I do, and others that are fine or good.

I would imagine others such as @the other John Browne who have gone through this will probably have a handful of "magic" v30s that he's come across as well.
 
With a group of V30s that are really close, that will 1000% be the case, as it will with any speaker - but the age, doping, cones, etc definitely make a difference, as do the different manufacturers and versions over the years.

I have had the same set of 4 16ohm early 90s V30s that have traveled from cab to cab to cab with me throughout the years, and they sound wildly different between eachother. The top left is the one that I use a 421 on because it has the most low end and low mids. The top left has the most midrange detail, so it gets the 57s (either by itself or in a fredman clip). The bottom left is the odd one out that sounds a little more honky and chinese v30 like.

People take into account the variations in versions and manufacturers; I don't think they take into account the variation from speaker to speaker enough - or guitar to guitar, amp to amp, for that matter. I've played early superleads that sounded WILDLY different from one another. And them super bass and super trem models that sounded more like a stereotypical superlead than an actual superlead.

Especially with gear stuff, this stuff has wild variations. And V30s are one of the most consistently brought up examples for a reason, but I think it's just as much the natural variations as the manufacturing. Just like when producers have a "magic" U87 or Distressor that sounds better or different than others - I have a "magic" v30 that sounds amazing no matter what I do, and others that are fine or good.

I would imagine others such as @the other John Browne who have gone through this will probably have a handful of "magic" v30s that he's come across as well.
My first foray into V30s was with a Fender Tonemaster 4x12...front loaded, with batting on the inside like a Bogner but years before Bogner did it. Sounded great with my first Jubilee, but every other modded Marshall hated it. Speakers were from 91.
Just last year, I had a Naylor SD60 and remembered how much the last SD60 loved V30s. Found a pair of 1989 V30s(didn't know regular production V30s went that far back!) and put them in a cab...the Naylor HATED those V30s. Ugly honk from hell...pulled em out quick.
Definitely a big variation, and each part of the chain has to stand on it's own merit...it just depends on IF you like that particular merit.
 
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