Do I want a Bogner 212C?

[djpatb]

I have never seen anyone selling the 212CB.
It looks like a cool cab.

 

[maddnotez]

I owned both the bogner and the port city os 2x12 for a month or so. Both had v30s. They were really close sound wise, but I preferred the port city for its wider dispersion and better low end response. A fair bit lighter too. For whatever that's worth!

That was the opposite of my experience. I had two PC Wave cabs: the first one and then the OS that came out later (back in 2007?). They were brand new and an improvement over my Marshall 1936...But, they were still directional on stage. The sound dispersed well out front, but it was too directional for me on stage.

I got the Bogner OS 2x12 with semi open back panels and it was not directional at all. Could still chug quite a bit, but I don't play hyper metal.

I'll never have a fully closed back cabinet again. I know us a Stagecraft vertical 2x12, semi open back and it's as good as the Bogner and most 4x12's for what I do.

The Mesa 2x12's (horizontal and vertical) are both really good. Horizontal has a small footprint and that cab punches like crazy. My buddy has one and he made it semi-open back and it can hang with a 4x12.

Thanks for sharing. Really good info for me and makes me think twice about Port City now. A cab not being directional is my #1 requirement.

 

[Wizard of Ozz]

Bogner build great cabs. Period. If you want a 2x12 get the Bogner. But for the small space savings and loss in overall sound, I always go 4x12.

 

[tarices22]

I owned both the bogner and the port city os 2x12 for a month or so. Both had v30s. They were really close sound wise, but I preferred the port city for its wider dispersion and better low end response. A fair bit lighter too. For whatever that's worth!

That was the opposite of my experience. I had two PC Wave cabs: the first one and then the OS that came out later (back in 2007?). They were brand new and an improvement over my Marshall 1936...But, they were still directional on stage. The sound dispersed well out front, but it was too directional for me on stage.

I got the Bogner OS 2x12 with semi open back panels and it was not directional at all. Could still chug quite a bit, but I don't play hyper metal.

I'll never have a fully closed back cabinet again. I know us a Stagecraft vertical 2x12, semi open back and it's as good as the Bogner and most 4x12's for what I do.

The Mesa 2x12's (horizontal and vertical) are both really good. Horizontal has a small footprint and that cab punches like crazy. My buddy has one and he made it semi-open back and it can hang with a 4x12.

Thanks for sharing. Really good info for me and makes me think twice about Port City now. A cab not being directional is my #1 requirement.

Ah, well the Bogner cab I had was fully closed back, so makes sense that your experience was different. Both the Bogner and the port city are more directional than another 2x12 cab I have that is 1/4 open back. I'll say this: for closed back cabs (which I think the port city qualifies as even with the full-width forward facing "port"), I think the overall response and spread on the port city is as good as you'll find. If you go open back, you'll get more even spread and a slightly different response.

 

[maddnotez]

I owned both the bogner and the port city os 2x12 for a month or so. Both had v30s. They were really close sound wise, but I preferred the port city for its wider dispersion and better low end response. A fair bit lighter too. For whatever that's worth!

That was the opposite of my experience. I had two PC Wave cabs: the first one and then the OS that came out later (back in 2007?). They were brand new and an improvement over my Marshall 1936...But, they were still directional on stage. The sound dispersed well out front, but it was too directional for me on stage.

I got the Bogner OS 2x12 with semi open back panels and it was not directional at all. Could still chug quite a bit, but I don't play hyper metal.

I'll never have a fully closed back cabinet again. I know us a Stagecraft vertical 2x12, semi open back and it's as good as the Bogner and most 4x12's for what I do.

The Mesa 2x12's (horizontal and vertical) are both really good. Horizontal has a small footprint and that cab punches like crazy. My buddy has one and he made it semi-open back and it can hang with a 4x12.

Thanks for sharing. Really good info for me and makes me think twice about Port City now. A cab not being directional is my #1 requirement.

Ah, well the Bogner cab I had was fully closed back, so makes sense that your experience was different. Both the Bogner and the port city are more directional than another 2x12 cab I have that is 1/4 open back. I'll say this: for closed back cabs (which I think the port city qualifies as even with the full-width forward facing "port"), I think the overall response and spread on the port city is as good as you'll find. If you go open back, you'll get more even spread and a slightly different response.

I'd have to compare open backs vs closed if I did buy a 2x12. Something I hadn't considered thanks

 

[supersonic]

I had been a CB quad guy for years. Now I'm using a Shiva sized 2x12 OB with an XTC head. It's a breeze to carry and it's not directional like a CB quad so I'm not slicing heads off. Fills the room nicely.