Does this sound like an Output Transformer problem?

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SoldanoFan":3spkk7zq said:
Someone probably ran it with no load plugged in, and trashed the OT.
It could be something other. These guys know way more than me but I am going with bad OT now. Its the most likely scenario. I had an OT go that sounded exactly like this. I had one go that was much worse and just gave me noise.
 
I'm thinking along the same lines as Olaf and JerryP. Probably an issue that's power supply related, and i would think the OT is ok. But i'm sure that once you get it over to a tech shop, they can sort it out for you.
 
duesentrieb":uc1lahff said:
To me it sounds as if the powertubes cannot draw enough current. There are a couple of things which can cause this to happen which should be diagnosed by a tech.

Same. Which out of all things, is why i asked whether someone has possibly biased it improperly into cutoff

I believe the OT is fine.
 
glip22":htsweead said:
SoldanoFan":htsweead said:
Someone probably ran it with no load plugged in, and trashed the OT.
It could be something other. These guys know way more than me but I am going with bad OT now. Its the most likely scenario. I had an OT go that sounded exactly like this. I had one go that was much worse and just gave me noise.
Gary..... I'm going with the guys who know what the fuck they're talking about. :lol: :LOL:
 
LP Freak":3l4osgux said:
glip22":3l4osgux said:
SoldanoFan":3l4osgux said:
Someone probably ran it with no load plugged in, and trashed the OT.
It could be something other. These guys know way more than me but I am going with bad OT now. Its the most likely scenario. I had an OT go that sounded exactly like this. I had one go that was much worse and just gave me noise.
Gary..... I'm going with the guys who know what the fuck they're talking about. :lol: :LOL:
:lol: :LOL: They know much more than I for sure. If the bad sound stayed that way and didn't fade out I would say OT for sure but the fact it fades out gives me doubts and points more toward a bad relay, cold joint, etc..
 
I'll have some answers soon for sure.

One thing i forgot to mention, is that the previous owner said he only played 4 shows with this amp, and the 4th show, blew a fuse, which took out the Power Transformer, so he spent a bit to get one from Germany and had that replaced. Perhaps they screwed up putting it back in and the amps not getting enough power?!

Decided to bring this Cobra (sick) a 5150 (noisy), and my VH4 (for updating) to Jens, who lives not too far from me...
He should be able to solve everything easily!
:rock:
 
mightywarlock":17jpp47p said:
I'll have some answers soon for sure.

One thing i forgot to mention, is that the previous owner said he only played 4 shows with this amp, and the 4th show, blew a fuse, which took out the Power Transformer, so he spent a bit to get one from Germany and had that replaced. Perhaps they screwed up putting it back in and the amps not getting enough power?!

Decided to bring this Cobra (sick) a 5150 (noisy), and my VH4 (for updating) to Jens, who lives not too far from me...
He should be able to solve everything easily!
:rock:
Sounds like it experienced a possible catastrophic failure at the rectifier, which then damaged the PT. That's a common failure. The best place for the HT fuse is before the rectifier, and in series with power transformer HT secondary... This puts the fuse in the AC part of the circuit, which is where the fuse belongs in the first place. This is of-course assuming that the Framus amps are designed with an (after the rectifier) fuse circuit?

Don't mess around inside the amp unless you known without a doubt what you're doing... 1/5th of 1 amp is enough to kill! Take it to a qualified tech.
 
SoldanoFan":1gigw6c7 said:
mightywarlock":1gigw6c7 said:
I'll have some answers soon for sure.

One thing i forgot to mention, is that the previous owner said he only played 4 shows with this amp, and the 4th show, blew a fuse, which took out the Power Transformer, so he spent a bit to get one from Germany and had that replaced. Perhaps they screwed up putting it back in and the amps not getting enough power?!

Decided to bring this Cobra (sick) a 5150 (noisy), and my VH4 (for updating) to Jens, who lives not too far from me...
He should be able to solve everything easily!
:rock:
Sounds like it experienced a possible catastrophic failure at the rectifier, which then damaged the PT. That's a common failure. The best place for the HT fuse is before the rectifier, and in series with power transformer HT secondary... This puts the fuse in the AC part of the circuit, which is where the fuse belongs in the first place. This is of-course assuming that the Framus amps are designed with an (after the rectifier) fuse circuit?

Don't mess around inside the amp unless you known without a doubt what you're doing... 1/5th of 1 amp is enough to kill! Take it to a qualified tech.

I did.

I have faith Jens will be able to handle it.
 
Just curious about what the outcome was with this amp repair? Did it get all fixed in the end? Are you happy with the Cobra now?
 
jerrydyer":26n63cm6 said:
if the B+ were shorting to ground a fuse would blow... power tube issue usually the same fuse blows. ... youve got a cold solder (bad connection) somewheres. could be something simple like input grid resistor at tube bad connection, check the very first few components you see by the input jack you might find something.
my 6505 did the same thing sounded like a bad connection, loose solder joint..etc... .. took to my tech and he said something about circuit damage.. didnt really get into much detail.. but i will find out here in a couple days when i go and pick it up... ill ask him what was wrong, have him give me good details and what he did to fix it...
 
TrueTone500":mbi9ayu0 said:
Rectifier diode maybe? Those are tricky to test... :doh:
Yeah, this was my guess also, I had a problem where the sound would fade out and then shortly return when standby was switched back an forth and it was a cold solder joint in the rectifier diodes.
 
Yay
Problem solved, had to do something with bad wiring and old cold solder and such.

this amp RIPS now!
 
mightywarlock":1tc2nrot said:
Yay
Problem solved, had to do something with bad wiring and old cold solder and such.

this amp RIPS now!
right on :thumbsup:
 
mightywarlock":2u0kkpwl said:
Yay
Problem solved, had to do something with bad wiring and old cold solder and such.

this amp RIPS now!
How does it stack up against your other amps that you own or owned such as your modded marshalls ?
 
Good mids, cuts through the mix very well. Not as aggressive as say...the Engl SE, but it had a classic kind of grit to it, but it had more than enough gain, especially on ch3. Feel a boost would add to the gain well to ch2, but it is not necessary to saturate. But it has a note clarity that makes it hard to hide behind. Everything was very clear in band practice. Needs a noise gate, squealing results without. Kind of HardCore sounding. Marshall vibe. but clear, and precise. I absolutely had to play more careful as everything I played was extremely clear and amplified, including mistakes.
Different than my other amps. Which is a good thing.
 

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