Dytronics CS5 Tri-Stereo Chorus incoming-- WooHoo

[Zachman]

Thats very cool Zach... I would not mind finding one of those myself. Talk about rare though. I dont think I have seen one in a decade.

I have heard of one other, in Finland-- and I am not so sure about the seller though.

http://www.hugeracksinc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=83357

And John Ou may still have his available for sale. I think you can find him through the HRI forum. They are very hard to find and not cheap, but nothing else really sounds like them.

Wow, $2500 + shipping. A bit out of my range at this time...

What surprised me is how good the Strymon sounds... Its a bit warmer than The Tri Stereo, but in a live situation I doubt you would hear the difference. I sure wish Strymon would do a rack effect. The H3000 sounded a bit sterile to me when compared but I would never notice if it were not being compared side by side...

Lets face Zach... You are a gear pig !

and Italo is the man... He could program a H3000 to make perfect eggs and bacon !

On question, does your CAE switching system use one buffer for each channel or one buffer for all channels on the switch matrix?

Yes!!! Gear Pig here, and proud. The Strymon does sound FANTASTIC!!! In that clip The Strymon was turned on with the TSC on, if I'm not mistaken. Definitely warms things up a bit, though.

As to my CAE Switching System-- Not buffered on all loops, just in strategic locations.

 

[verderacer]

Just curoius, where are you buffering then? Is the Eventide and Tri-Stereo buffered? The schematic does not show.

 

[Zachman]

Just curoius, where are you buffering then? Is the Eventide and Tri-Stereo buffered? The schematic does not show.

From the CAE website

Which brings us to how we utilize buffers in CAE custom switchers. We only use buffers where absolutely necessary. Typically, in a pedal based system we will not buffer until after the first 4-5 loops, which is usually just prior to sending the signal down to the pedal board (via a long cable run, hence the need to buffer) to hit the wah/volume pedals. Any more than 4 or 5 loops, and the guitar signal may be affected by capacitive loading. So the first few loops is where you would put any impedance sensitive effects. This also means your guitar will go through fuzz, overdrive or distortion pedals BEFORE the wah. We prefer this order because the wah then has a more harmonically rich signal to filter. Try it yourself. Of course, if a specific order is required, we will do everything we can to make it happen. Buffers are also necessary to drive isolation transformers, since the relatively low primary impedance of the transformers may be detrimental to whatever circuit is feeding it. This is also why amp splitter circuits must be buffered. You can't drive multiple amps with a relatively high impedance source. So there usually is a buffer somewhere in the output stage of your custom switcher. That's usually it. 2 places minimum. There may be more active stages depending on your system requirements.

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[Zachman]

The PCM81 and DBX160A are here and this is on it's way-- tracking says it'll be here Tuesday the 21st. Looking forward to integrating all the new toys with the good ole familiar friends and then getting into mad scientist mode muwahahahahahahha.

Oh ya, I quit smoking too-- one month now... YAY!!!

 

[Blix]

Awesome!


Congrats on quitting the smokes too, I'll follow your lead shortly.

 

[Zachman]

Awesome!


Congrats on quitting the smokes too, I'll follow your lead shortly.

Thanks brutha...

 

[6CA7]

You guys are just sick....and I love it..

Zach, hope you put together a vid once all is bolted up and you start programing. Would be awesome to hear with the Tri and the new stuff.

Is the dbx something you would keep turned on for dirty sounds too or just for cleans?

 

[Zachman]

You guys are just sick....and I love it..

Zach, hope you put together a vid once all is bolted up and you start programing. Would be awesome to hear with the Tri and the new stuff.

Is the dbx something you would keep turned on for dirty sounds too or just for cleans?

I don't usually keep compression on for distorted stuff, but do occasionally-- depending on what else is going on in the mix. In the studio, if the compressor would be necessary, I'd usually have that done by the engineer. Live-- probably not worry about it. I mainly use the compressed thing for clean tones. The rack (DBX for the studio funk cleans and the Dyna Comp for everything else including solo boosts w/ clean tones)

I will put up some stuff, once I get all the new stuff integrated.

 

[verderacer]

Congrats on gettin that monkey off ya back... I saw what it can do so several of my family members.

So whatcha gonna do with the old stuff especially with that old Lexicon ?

 

[ACShreds]

quick question regarding the DBX 160A. I know its the newer version of the older DBX compressor, but is there a big difference or reason you're for going for the 160A over a 160X as the X's seem to have been in a ton of top players racks back in the day and can be had for cheaper than the new 160A's. Also the X sounds great in the video posted above. Just curious as to what the A has over the X as im contemplating putting one of the two in my rack for classic 80's clean stuff but never had any experience with either.

 

[Zachman]

quick question regarding the DBX 160A. I know its the newer version of the older DBX compressor, but is there a big difference or reason you're for going for the 160A over a 160X as the X's seem to have been in a ton of top players racks back in the day and can be had for cheaper than the new 160A's. Also the X sounds great in the video posted above. Just curious as to what the A has over the X as im contemplating putting one of the two in my rack for classic 80's clean stuff but never had any experience with either.

The main difference is the interface on the rear panel. I've had both before and they both have that signature sound.

Plus... it's the one Landau currently uses in his studio rack

 

[Zachman]

Congrats on gettin that monkey off ya back... I saw what it can do so several of my family members.

So whatcha gonna do with the old stuff especially with that old Lexicon ?

Thanks,

It was weird-- I got home after the hospital stay and lit a cig and it tasted horrible, and I just didn't want to smoke any more. It's good by me... Save the $$$ and healthier too. Though I literally just got out of the hospital AGAIN this past Friday. Went in Monday for a relapse. I hate this. MASSIVE antibiotics, and not feeling myself yet. I lost a ton of weight and look better, just don't feel all better, yet. Hopefully soon. Prayers are appreciated.

The old lexicon died, and I'm just keeping it for parts. The Rocktron 300G, I'll probably keep along w/ the other retired gear I have.

Ooh... I just got this too: I have been searching FOREVER for another one of these. I LOVE this amp!!

 

[ACShreds]

quick question regarding the DBX 160A. I know its the newer version of the older DBX compressor, but is there a big difference or reason you're for going for the 160A over a 160X as the X's seem to have been in a ton of top players racks back in the day and can be had for cheaper than the new 160A's. Also the X sounds great in the video posted above. Just curious as to what the A has over the X as im contemplating putting one of the two in my rack for classic 80's clean stuff but never had any experience with either.

Plus... it's the one Landau currently uses in his studio rack

Well thats enough reason in itself...

 

[Zachman]

quick question regarding the DBX 160A. I know its the newer version of the older DBX compressor, but is there a big difference or reason you're for going for the 160A over a 160X as the X's seem to have been in a ton of top players racks back in the day and can be had for cheaper than the new 160A's. Also the X sounds great in the video posted above. Just curious as to what the A has over the X as im contemplating putting one of the two in my rack for classic 80's clean stuff but never had any experience with either.

Plus... it's the one Landau currently uses in his studio rack

Well thats enough reason in itself...

His rack tones are so stellar. Perfectly blended for the parts he uses them on.

The AC plug is on the correct side on the 160A, and it's an IEC connector. I mean most of my stuff in my rig-- the AC receptacles are on the left.

 

[ACShreds]

quick question regarding the DBX 160A. I know its the newer version of the older DBX compressor, but is there a big difference or reason you're for going for the 160A over a 160X as the X's seem to have been in a ton of top players racks back in the day and can be had for cheaper than the new 160A's. Also the X sounds great in the video posted above. Just curious as to what the A has over the X as im contemplating putting one of the two in my rack for classic 80's clean stuff but never had any experience with either.

Plus... it's the one Landau currently uses in his studio rack

Well thats enough reason in itself...

His rack tones are so stellar. Perfectly blended for the parts he uses them on.

For sure. Well I guess I'll go ahead and pull the trigger on one myself then. After that it'll finally be time to put all the bulk cable and ends I have to good use...

 

[Zachman]

quick question regarding the DBX 160A. I know its the newer version of the older DBX compressor, but is there a big difference or reason you're for going for the 160A over a 160X as the X's seem to have been in a ton of top players racks back in the day and can be had for cheaper than the new 160A's. Also the X sounds great in the video posted above. Just curious as to what the A has over the X as im contemplating putting one of the two in my rack for classic 80's clean stuff but never had any experience with either.

Plus... it's the one Landau currently uses in his studio rack

Well thats enough reason in itself...

His rack tones are so stellar. Perfectly blended for the parts he uses them on.

For sure. Well I guess I'll go ahead and pull the trigger on one myself then. After that it'll finally be time to put all the bulk cable and ends I have to good use...

Alright!! Good for you! Congrats

They aren't that expensive, compared to other stuff anyway.

Rock On

 

[petejt]

Congratulations Zach, on both quitting smoking and the Tri-Stereo Chorus.

Looking forward to hearing it in action with your rack rig.

 

[Zachman]

At Last...

 

[ACShreds]

At Last...

you sir are never allowed to complain about tone problems ever again....

 

[Zachman]

At Last...

you sir are never allowed to complain about tone problems ever again....

I think in October, I'll ship this behemoth out to Dave at LA Sound Design to be retro fit into a newer Kriz Kraft Style rack case, and rewired and programmed to accommodate the new additions. I was thinking of adding an interface/patch bay on the rear-- making it easy to patch directly into each unit for outboard mix down. Perhaps swap out a pedal or two while I'm at it... make a fun time of it, and get mentoneman to video and audio record and play too-- along w/ myself and Dave and perhaps a few other friends to do a demo of the big rig, with some select fun amps Diamond, Friedman, Cameron etc... Could be a fun way to highlight some of the coolest pieces of gear around, through one of the most ridiculous w/d/w rigs around. I gotta get Italo's presets now for the PCM81 and the H8000FW too. HEHEHEHE-- (evil laugh). This is the culmination of a lifelong dream of mine, and I am very very stoked.