rlord1974
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Does a Quickrod not have "Marshally" mids? Why do people refer to them as being "weird"?
Discuss.
Discuss.
RockStarNick
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I just played Lublin's QR, and it sounded damn Marshally to me.
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Shiny_Surface
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rlord1974":8o2ew52p said:
Well you have to look at the context in how the term came about imo.
My memory could be fuzzy but from what I remember the term was used by someone commenting on the amp's tone and then some Splawn fans sort of further popularized it through parody use of the term, while others agreed with the original weird mids description.
So you ended up with two polarized camps on the mids with little inbetween.
Bob Savage
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I consider Splawn mids to be abnormally normal.
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Chubtone
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Splawn lows, mids and high's kick ass. They are extremely "Marshally" in my opinion. What they are not is extremely saturated like many modern day "modded" Marshalls are, to the point where they aren't much like a Marshall anymore. A Splawn is not the easiest amp in the world to solo on meaning it doesn't have that effortless, liquidy, left handed, legato-ey type feel that many amps have. The negative of that is that you have to nail what you are trying to play. I describe it as the Splawn will not fill in the blanks for you like many modern amps do. Some amps, if you play it at 50% the amp makes it sound like you nailed it. You play something at 50% on a Splawn and it slaps you in the face, calls you a noob, and looks at you disappointedly and says, "you'll have to do better than that".
The positive side of an amp as articulate as a Splawn is that when you stick a mic on it, it records incredibly well where I find an amp like the other I describe above just disappears in a mix or has no personality.
Keep in mind I believe the main culprit in the whole Splawn's have weird mids thing is an absolute maniac when it comes to determining how Stryper was able to get their tone and you want to talk about weird mids?
The positive side of an amp as articulate as a Splawn is that when you stick a mic on it, it records incredibly well where I find an amp like the other I describe above just disappears in a mix or has no personality.
Keep in mind I believe the main culprit in the whole Splawn's have weird mids thing is an absolute maniac when it comes to determining how Stryper was able to get their tone and you want to talk about weird mids?
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Shiny_Surface
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Curt I thought you greased up the Splawn with an OD-1/SD-1 up front.
Digital Jams
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Shiny_Surface":1bvsgb0t said:Kurt I thought you greased up the Splawn with an OD-1/SD-1 up front.
Not only that but trying to out a fellow east coast hom member with not be tolerated..........................
He shall be punished.................
Chubtone
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Shiny_Surface":1nqamvdq said:Curt I thought you greased up the Splawn with an OD-1/SD-1 up front.
I sometimes use an SD-1, an OD-808 or an OCD in front of the Splawn. I set my Splawn to sound like a Marshall on OD1 and then I can hit that "Marshall" with a pedal like I always do with real Marshalls or my old Cameron Jose mod. With a pedal in front of the Splawn and the OD1/OD2 switch, it gives me 4 levels of distortion on that one channel. It depends what I'm going for. Even then it is still much more articulate than a lot of the modern high gain amps.
The reason I set the Splawn like a stock Marshall to begin with is that I never felt Marshalls had enough lows. Now they do....
RockStarNick
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Chubtone":2n3isal0 said:Splawn lows, mids and high's kick ass. They are extremely "Marshally" in my opinion. What they are not is extremely saturated like many modern day "modded" Marshalls are, to the point where they aren't much like a Marshall anymore. A Splawn is not the easiest amp in the world to solo on meaning it doesn't have that effortless, liquidy, left handed, legato-ey type feel that many amps have. The negative of that is that you have to nail what you are trying to play. I describe it as the Splawn will not fill in the blanks for you like many modern amps do. Some amps, if you play it at 50% the amp makes it sound like you nailed it. You play something at 50% on a Splawn and it slaps you in the face, calls you a noob, and looks at you disappointedly and says, "you'll have to do better than that".
The positive side of an amp as articulate as a Splawn is that when you stick a mic on it, it records incredibly well where I find an amp like the other I describe above just disappears in a mix or has no personality.
Keep in mind I believe the main culprit in the whole Splawn's have weird mids thing is an absolute maniac when it comes to determining how Stryper was able to get their tone and you want to talk about weird mids?
This is a probably one of the best amp descriptions I've heard in a long time.
Lublin and i played his Splawn HR back to back with my 20th Anny Bogner Shiva. It was fascinating to see how two "marshally" amps can be so similar, yet so different.
Both had that EL34 bark going on. Both had the British thing going on.
But the Splawn, in my opinion, had more of a "truer" Marshall voice. Brighter overall. Much more present upper mid bite. Crunchy as hell. Very unforgiving, like you said - it makes you work hard. The Splawn's EQ controls sit right where marshall's usually do. The mid control range seems to be set way high for upper mids. The treble is very bright. The bass seems to affect very low frequencies. My only gripe with the splawn is that there was no real way to dial out the upper mids and dial in lower mids. But then again, if you wanted to do that, you buy a Bogner.
Which brings me to my next point. The Bogner, in comparison, had it's EQ ranges in different places. The Bass seemed to affect high-bass and low mids - not subsonic lows. The midrange pot affected mid-mids. Not upper mids. The treble pot was voiced almost for very very high mids, and low trebles, with the Presence control effecting the very high frequencies. Overall, a much darker voiced amp. A little less toothy, a little more low mid roundness.
stephen sawall
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"Strange", "mysterious", "weird" ... all terms I use to describe the void between "bass" and "treble" no matter what sound we are discussing ? This goes way beyond "amps"....
Chubtone
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Digital Jams":1333o10f said:
I didn't out him. He outed himself. And I understand where that Oz Fox groupie was coming from because others have had issue with the Splawns only having what I consider the right amount of saturation. Others want super, mega, ultra saturated and the Quick Rod doesn't do that.
"Oz Fox groupie" is pretty good, don't you think?
The only problem with Ralph saying something is that he has more followers than the Dalai Lama and then the mantra begins up and down the east coast...... "Splawns have weird mids. You can't solo on a Splawn, Splawns have weird mids. You can't solo on a Splawn, Splawns have weird mids. You can't solo on a Splawn, Splawns have weird mids. You can't solo on a Splawn, Splawns have weird mids. You can't solo on a Splawn."
And I'm wondering what is wrong with the Splawns I get because they don't have weird mids and I can solo on them, pedal or not. Here's an old clip. No boost pedal and just Gear 1 OD1, the wimpiest, least saturated setting on the gain channel.
https://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... 99475&q=hi
Badronald
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Chubtone":iaor7unr said:Digital Jams":iaor7unr said:
I didn't out him. He outed himself. And I understand where that Oz Fox groupie was coming from because others have had issue with the Splawns only having what I consider the right amount of saturation. Others want super, mega, ultra saturated and the Quick Rod doesn't do that.
"Oz Fox groupie" is pretty good, don't you think?
The only problem with Ralph saying something is that he has more followers than the Dalai Lama and then the mantra begins up and down the east coast...... "Splawns have weird mids. You can't solo on a Splawn, Splawns have weird mids. You can't solo on a Splawn, Splawns have weird mids. You can't solo on a Splawn, Splawns have weird mids. You can't solo on a Splawn, Splawns have weird mids. You can't solo on a Splawn."
And I'm wondering what is wrong with the Splawns I get because they don't have weird mids and I can solo on them, pedal or not. Here's an old clip. No boost pedal and just Gear 1 OD1, the wimpiest, least saturated setting on the gain channel.
https://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... 99475&q=hi
Dude, you're "on" today. Great stuff. Very entertaining.
Chubtone
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Badronald":3553o7iz said:Dude, you're "on" today. Great stuff. Very entertaining.
Thanks BR. Some days RT still inspires me enough to bring my A game.
Badronald
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Man, I want a Nitro.
Digital Jams
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Badronald":2z0kmqjc said:Chubtone":2z0kmqjc said:Digital Jams":2z0kmqjc said:
I didn't out him. He outed himself. And I understand where that Oz Fox groupie was coming from because others have had issue with the Splawns only having what I consider the right amount of saturation. Others want super, mega, ultra saturated and the Quick Rod doesn't do that.
"Oz Fox groupie" is pretty good, don't you think?
The only problem with Ralph saying something is that he has more followers than the Dalai Lama and then the mantra begins up and down the east coast...... "Splawns have weird mids. You can't solo on a Splawn, Splawns have weird mids. You can't solo on a Splawn, Splawns have weird mids. You can't solo on a Splawn, Splawns have weird mids. You can't solo on a Splawn, Splawns have weird mids. You can't solo on a Splawn."
And I'm wondering what is wrong with the Splawns I get because they don't have weird mids and I can solo on them, pedal or not. Here's an old clip. No boost pedal and just Gear 1 OD1, the wimpiest, least saturated setting on the gain channel.
https://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... 99475&q=hi
Dude, you're "on" today. Great stuff. Very entertaining.
Ever see those signs at the zoo..................."Do not feed the animals"??
The Tek Zealot will be on his soapbox for weeks now
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Anonymous
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Mainly to aggravate Splawn owners... Especially Vrad... also always guaranteed to get Curt's (Chubtones) typing hand going...rlord1974":loxqwc60 said:
Steve
Lublin
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Wow. Perfection. Seriously.Chubtone":3gdiga7x said:Splawn lows, mids and high's kick ass. They are extremely "Marshally" in my opinion. What they are not is extremely saturated like many modern day "modded" Marshalls are, to the point where they aren't much like a Marshall anymore. A Splawn is not the easiest amp in the world to solo on meaning it doesn't have that effortless, liquidy, left handed, legato-ey type feel that many amps have. The negative of that is that you have to nail what you are trying to play. I describe it as the Splawn will not fill in the blanks for you like many modern amps do. Some amps, if you play it at 50% the amp makes it sound like you nailed it. You play something at 50% on a Splawn and it slaps you in the face, calls you a noob, and looks at you disappointedly and says, "you'll have to do better than that".
The positive side of an amp as articulate as a Splawn is that when you stick a mic on it, it records incredibly well where I find an amp like the other I describe above just disappears in a mix or has no personality.
Keep in mind I believe the main culprit in the whole Splawn's have weird mids thing is an absolute maniac when it comes to determining how Stryper was able to get their tone and you want to talk about weird mids?
Love my Splawn Quick Rod. I've been on a search for an amp that I connect with and, after owning many awesome amps, this is the one. Nothing weird about it - just an angry beauty.
P.S. Speaking of low mids, I swapped the stock Chinese preamp tubes for JJ's and it seemed to really shift EQ of the mids to a darker range. Sounds awesome, IMHO.
crwnedblasphemy
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Lublin":3vg5o7rb said:Wow. Perfection. Seriously.Chubtone":3vg5o7rb said:Splawn lows, mids and high's kick ass. They are extremely "Marshally" in my opinion. What they are not is extremely saturated like many modern day "modded" Marshalls are, to the point where they aren't much like a Marshall anymore. A Splawn is not the easiest amp in the world to solo on meaning it doesn't have that effortless, liquidy, left handed, legato-ey type feel that many amps have. The negative of that is that you have to nail what you are trying to play. I describe it as the Splawn will not fill in the blanks for you like many modern amps do. Some amps, if you play it at 50% the amp makes it sound like you nailed it. You play something at 50% on a Splawn and it slaps you in the face, calls you a noob, and looks at you disappointedly and says, "you'll have to do better than that".
The positive side of an amp as articulate as a Splawn is that when you stick a mic on it, it records incredibly well where I find an amp like the other I describe above just disappears in a mix or has no personality.
Keep in mind I believe the main culprit in the whole Splawn's have weird mids thing is an absolute maniac when it comes to determining how Stryper was able to get their tone and you want to talk about weird mids?
Love my Splawn Quick Rod. I've been on a search for an amp that I connect with and, after owning many awesome amps, this is the one. Nothing weird about it - just an angry beauty.
P.S. Speaking of low mids, I swapped the stock Chinese preamp tubes for JJ's and it seemed to really shift EQ of the mids to a darker range. Sounds awesome, IMHO.
agreed.
Shawn Lutz
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They sound pissed off Marshally to me...Hot-Rodded Marshall all the way at least on my Older QR w/o gears and shared EQ
jerrydyer
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Splawns are killer. they are unique. Its nice to hear something thats a little different than the typical modded marshall tone.