Einstein band mix issues

[Tommyk83]

sounds like position etc really does make a big difference. looking forward to experimenting!

 

[slyvren]

Strange: turning down the Mids from about 13 to 10,5 improves my sound. I' ve been always like : turn up, turn up, more mids. But perhaps the Eini got a lot at his own voicing?

Maybe your mids settings are too high and causing too much compression. I scoop mine a little. Most of your cut is going to be treble and presence knobs.. You have to lower the other knobs to get more in relation to other frequencies.

...and again

Try less mids...

Very cool Volkair. You approached the situation the right way. Moving the amp, turning down mids and EQ with entire band. If the other guitarist has too much cut make him cut less. You are more compressed with a diezel so it's hard to fight when your mids are turned up so high you're compressing the frequencies that naturally cut too much. With Einey mids knob does not mean more cut!! This also happens to people who run too much gain. Usually the problems are because they dial in the amp with their eyes. Diezels don't function like other amps.

 

[Bato]

You are more compressed with a diezel so it's hard to fight when your mids are turned up so high you're compressing the frequencies that naturally cut too much. With Einey mids knob does not mean more cut!! This also happens to people who run too much gain. Usually the problems are because they dial in the amp with their eyes. Diezels don't function like other amps.

Thats the same thing, John Petrucci is talking about in his MarkV Video.

 

[volkair]

I played a Cab with 16 Ohm V30 today, it has much more clarity, it has been like you took a carpet from your Cabinet. I had to turn up Bass and Deep a bit, like 12 O´clock. I also turned down the Highs and Presence a bit, but then it was great. Not fizzy at all. Does it really matter, which Speaker you take? 8 or 16 Ohm? Or is it more like the construction of the Box (oversized, Marshall Style, with Salt& Pepper). I also played a Marshall AV, and a AX. The AV had the same Highs and upper Mids, but not very defined. It made my Eini sound small. The other (handmade) Cab was very clear and bashed in a very nice way. In fact, they both have the same Spekaers (V30 16Ohm) and you can really hear the difference the cab makes. The AX with Greenbacks was great to play, good crunchy sound, but not enough aggressive in Palm-mute-playing. Saggy and flubby bass. But a nice top end. I wonder about a mix between 8 Ohm G12M and V30 in the Frontloaded Diezelcab...anyone tried?

 

[Zupfgeige]

Hi! I think tu cut through in a a loud rockband you allways have to push your mids. Otherwise your tone isn t mean enough.

I allways have the mids on all amps at minimum 3 o clock. (marshall dsl,peavey 6505 and now Schmidt).

For the guitar the mids are the most important frequences!!!

Don t be afraid to push them!

Rolf

 

[slyvren]

Hi! I think tu cut through in a a loud rockband you allways have to push your mids. Otherwise your tone isn t mean enough.

I allways have the mids on all amps at minimum 3 o clock. (marshall dsl,peavey 6505 and now Schmidt).

For the guitar the mids are the most important frequences!!!

Don t be afraid to push them!

Rolf

Rolf,
This was discussed in the thread. On the Einstein the mids are already hot.. If you push them to 3 o'clock like you suggest because of the way the amp works you compress the other cutting frequncies too much (higher mids than is on the dial and highs and presence)

Just because a setting works best on 10 amps doesnt mean it will work best on the amp in question even if 2 of those 10 are from the same manufacturer. The diezels with high compression are not dialed in like other amps. The compression process already boosts the mids a bit.

 

[Zupfgeige]

With the Schmidt and 4x12 Box with greenbacks 3 o clock works well down to 12 o clock not.

With vintage 30 it works on 12 o clock and more mids are too hard.

I tried this not with the Einy because i haven t one. But to try out the mids which cut through in the band is no big thing.


No stress at all

Rolf

 

[slyvren]

No stress at all
Rolf

Same here! Sorry if I came off harsh. I was saying this because the people with problems already said they had mids at 3 o clock and I think that is part of the problem. One person fixed his issue already and agreed he had too much mids and it compressed his sound. Again I wasn't trying to sound mean. I just didn't want confusion. I agree with you that mids are needed to cut through in a band. The problem people have with Einstein is that it's easy to add too much mids and it will actually make you cut through less.