Enlighten me about JMPs...

[70strathead]

cool! great tone.[/quote]Thanks...there are things I don't like about it, but with some tweaks it should be better. I hate the ghost notes!!!! Hopefully some Uli tones are in there

I just recently put my 69 plexi back to stock. It was giving me the same tone as what I get from my Wizard stuff, so thought it would come in handy to have a stock amp tone too....now to do the 69 metalface....[/quote]

awesome man, yes the Uli vibe is there and i hear some early VH as well..u have a 69 plexi too? bastard! )

 

[70strathead]

Its the only rock amp i play. I have 4 heads..
1978 50w jmp
1979 100w jmp
1982 100w JCM800, which is essentially a JMP master circuit
1974 JMP 50w non-master

I went through the stages of modding some of these back in the day, but brought them all back to stock with some voicing tweaks here and there and effects loop additions.

You're gonna know when someone's plays a strat vs. a humbucker axe right away because of the classic marshall character. Push the fromt end with the OD pedal of your choice, and you're off!

One of the reasons why i like stock, is that i can use my volume knob on guitar to get clean sound that dosent get muddy or loose character. If i wanted a one trick pony, i'd probably have a really good tech that knows what to do to get the heavy sound I want. But really, i can achieve both with the basics. I do like the Friedman sounds and what Bob posted as well because it still sounds like a Marshall vs. other amp modders out there.


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How hard was it to put in an effects loop? Did you buy a kit or just do everything from scratch?

I have a local guy in San Diego that puts them in. Tube-buffered with true bypass and footswitch. I specifically have the loops caliberated for an Echoplex which IMO enhances the sound and tames the highs.

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[Telephant]

Put simply, JMP's rule the fucking world.

 

[Greazygeo]

awesome man, yes the Uli vibe is there and i hear some early VH as well..u have a 69 plexi too? bastard! )

Yep....my first amp was a modded '72 50 watt....then I landed my '69 metalface 100 and this '68 Supertremolo (which I sold)...then picked up the '69 plexi 100 which I modded and was my main amp for years. I've had lots of others but you know how some are great and some are so so....I only kept the two '69's since they are good ones and sold off the others.

Having the chance to pick up this '68 again I couldnt really turn it down (so to speak )....I think with some work on the filtering it'll get better and lose the ghost notes....

 

[halford]

Here's a 68 Plexi 100watt NMV cranked---slaved---and recorded at tv volumes. Just gtr into the amp.

Wrathchild

tv volumes!

Nice playign and tone

 

[ToneFreak]

That's what I was afraid of. I really want a JMP with Freidman's mod to complete my amp collection, but I'm afraid it's too loud for my 10'x12'x7.5' room.

They are loud... I've heard the 'Angrie Hippie' Friedman mods at his shop and it's a high-gain beast! The master volume works really well... I think Friedman also tweaks that to work better.

He also does mods to the Naylor SuperDrive 60... converts it into a two channel bad boy.

 

[70strathead]

awesome man, yes the Uli vibe is there and i hear some early VH as well..u have a 69 plexi too? bastard! )

Yep....my first amp was a modded '72 50 watt....then I landed my '69 metalface 100 and this '68 Supertremolo (which I sold)...then picked up the '69 plexi 100 which I modded and was my main amp for years. I've had lots of others but you know how some are great and some are so so....I only kept the two '69's since they are good ones and sold off the others.

Having the chance to pick up this '68 again I couldnt really turn it down (so to speak )....I think with some work on the filtering it'll get better and lose the ghost notes....

very cool. thats the shit. Uli uses Super Tremolo's but his are 71' or 72' 100w with really old tubes. His main one is one of the loudest Marshalls i've ever heard and he doesn't even dime them. Crazy. Do you lean more towards the 100watters vs. the 50watters as far as NMV models? I feel like i have a bit more control playing through a 50w vs. 100w models, but prefer the headroom of the 100w.


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[70strathead]

I specifically have the loops caliberated for an Echoplex which IMO enhances the sound and tames the highs.

Too bad he can't de-enhance the stench those dirty things put out.

i like that mustly stench....its smells like..........victory!

 

[degenaro]

Put simply, JMP's rule the fucking world.

They do indeed...I'm back down to 3 had to send off the 71 Super Tremolo I was babysitting, to its owner. Sniff...
Still have an early 70s 100 watter amd a mid 70s 50. And Dave Simpson's 79 Soldano modded MV 100 watter though.

 

[Greazygeo]

awesome man, yes the Uli vibe is there and i hear some early VH as well..u have a 69 plexi too? bastard! )

Yep....my first amp was a modded '72 50 watt....then I landed my '69 metalface 100 and this '68 Supertremolo (which I sold)...then picked up the '69 plexi 100 which I modded and was my main amp for years. I've had lots of others but you know how some are great and some are so so....I only kept the two '69's since they are good ones and sold off the others.

Having the chance to pick up this '68 again I couldnt really turn it down (so to speak )....I think with some work on the filtering it'll get better and lose the ghost notes....

very cool. thats the shit. Uli uses Super Tremolo's but his are 71' or 72' 100w with really old tubes. His main one is one of the loudest Marshalls i've ever heard and he doesn't even dime them. Crazy. Do you lean more towards the 100watters vs. the 50watters as far as NMV models? I feel like i have a bit more control playing through a 50w vs. 100w models, but prefer the headroom of the 100w.


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Does he jumper the channels or just use one of them? I always thought he used a fuzzface of some sort, only because I saw one in a pic once. He must have used something back then, theres alot of gain on Catch your Train.

The 72 50 watt is the only one I've liked. It was modded when I got it and ran the old 6Ca7's. Others I've had were too nasally sounding and more loose than I like. I always seemed to stick with the 100's. The headroom and bottom are better for me. Running thru GB's the volume doesnt get too out of hand. Even my Wizards are 100's, though a 50 Vintage Classic might not be bad...those power sections are pretty strong.

 

[70strathead]

Does he jumper the channels or just use one of them? I always thought he used a fuzzface of some sort, only because I saw one in a pic once. He must have used something back then, theres alot of gain on Catch your Train.

The 72 50 watt is the only one I've liked. It was modded when I got it and ran the old 6Ca7's. Others I've had were too nasally sounding and more loose than I like. I always seemed to stick with the 100's. The headroom and bottom are better for me. Running thru GB's the volume doesnt get too out of hand. Even my Wizards are 100's, though a 50 Vintage Classic might not be bad...those power sections are pretty strong.[/quote][/quote][/quote]

Nope, he just plugs into the upper left input and turns it up. So he did use a fuzz face back in the day, but he claims that he only used during things like 'fly to the rainbow", "polar nights' where he would need that extra gain to get the notes to feedback, like on tokyo tapes. believe it or not, his main pedal was a old roland Jet phaser that has a gain stage and thats what he used 90% of the time, even during electric sun days. You can toally here that in like Hiroshima and Earthquake. He cabs are loaded with 80w speakers as well, so that why it gets really loud, but clean. He got his original fuzz face and jet phaser stolen, so now i he just runs some octavfuzz custom pedal, wthout the ocatvia turned off. You and like 5 other players i know swear on the 72 50w jmp's...i guess those were the good sounding ones. hmm..

Catch your train! this is how tempermental uli is...some academy students including me, learned that song but in the of A Mixo, because he was tuned down a half step on that particular song in the album. So when we got up to play the damn thing along with him leading, he insisted that it be played in Ab Mixolydian because that was the original key..on the spot! even his Bass player Uli Ritgen was thrown off. It did sound better in Ab though i must admit.

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[robb]

JMP's rule!!!!

 

[Greazygeo]

Nope, he just plugs into the upper left input and turns it up. So he did use a fuzz face back in the day, but he claims that he only used during things like 'fly to the rainbow", "polar nights' where he would need that extra gain to get the notes to feedback, like on tokyo tapes. believe it or not, his main pedal was a old roland Jet phaser that has a gain stage and thats what he used 90% of the time, even during electric sun days. You can toally here that in like Hiroshima and Earthquake. He cabs are loaded with 80w speakers as well, so that why it gets really loud, but clean. He got his original fuzz face and jet phaser stolen, so now i he just runs some octavfuzz custom pedal, wthout the ocatvia turned off. You and like 5 other players i know swear on the 72 50w jmp's...i guess those were the good sounding ones. hmm..

Catch your train! this is how tempermental uli is...some academy students including me, learned that song but in the of A Mixo, because he was tuned down a half step on that particular song in the album. So when we got up to play the damn thing along with him leading, he insisted that it be played in Ab Mixolydian because that was the original key..on the spot! even his Bass player Uli Ritgen was thrown off. It did sound better in Ab though i must admit.

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That's pretty interesting. I think it was the Tokyo Tapes cover that had the pic of the fuzzface on the floor. When I listen to Metamorphosis, it sounds like he is playing straight in. He has alot of dynamics going on in that stuff.

I met Ritchie Blackmore's tech at a gtr show and we hung out alot that afternoon. He had a bunch of Ritchie's gtr's amps and cabs there for sale. His cabs were loaded with 80 watt speakers too. I always did like those, too bad 4 of them in a cab weigh so much!

That 72 I had did sound good, but it spent more time in the shop than on gigs. Frustrating amp....

We played Catch Your Train in A as well....it didnt sound the same, but was still fun to play!! There was one part I never figured out...thats a great album. He didnt throw any bottled water at you by chance?!

 

[70strathead]

Nope, he just plugs into the upper left input and turns it up. So he did use a fuzz face back in the day, but he claims that he only used during things like 'fly to the rainbow", "polar nights' where he would need that extra gain to get the notes to feedback, like on tokyo tapes. believe it or not, his main pedal was a old roland Jet phaser that has a gain stage and thats what he used 90% of the time, even during electric sun days. You can toally here that in like Hiroshima and Earthquake. He cabs are loaded with 80w speakers as well, so that why it gets really loud, but clean. He got his original fuzz face and jet phaser stolen, so now i he just runs some octavfuzz custom pedal, wthout the ocatvia turned off. You and like 5 other players i know swear on the 72 50w jmp's...i guess those were the good sounding ones. hmm..

Catch your train! this is how tempermental uli is...some academy students including me, learned that song but in the of A Mixo, because he was tuned down a half step on that particular song in the album. So when we got up to play the damn thing along with him leading, he insisted that it be played in Ab Mixolydian because that was the original key..on the spot! even his Bass player Uli Ritgen was thrown off. It did sound better in Ab though i must admit.

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That's pretty interesting. I think it was the Tokyo Tapes cover that had the pic of the fuzzface on the floor. When I listen to Metamorphosis, it sounds like he is playing straight in. He has alot of dynamics going on in that stuff.

I met Ritchie Blackmore's tech at a gtr show and we hung out alot that afternoon. He had a bunch of Ritchie's gtr's amps and cabs there for sale. His cabs were loaded with 80 watt speakers too. I always did like those, too bad 4 of them in a cab weigh so much!

That 72 I had did sound good, but it spent more time in the shop than on gigs. Frustrating amp....

We played Catch Your Train in A as well....it didnt sound the same, but was still fun to play!! There was one part I never figured out...thats a great album. He didnt throw any bottled water at you by chance?!

Metamorphosis does sound like he's straight in, i agree. He uses active hot pickups on that sky guitar so it does give him more sustain than the strat. I had a JCM800 cab loaded with 80's when i was a kid not knowing anything. That cab was fricken tank! i heard Eric Johnson used 80's during Avia Musicom tour. No uli didn't throw water at us, be he definitely made a point to knit pick on every single note that you played. He has a story for everything, the last dminished run going up chromatically was a taken from a Brahm's violin piece that he got from. He plays that stuff without even looking and sweating...very natural and no tensing. bastard!

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