Tone Monster
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Blah blah something or other ALL CAPS. I use CAPS A LOT. Cause I DO. I am very important. 100%.
geetarmikey
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Clapton's playing and songwriting is obviously deservedly praised. His set at Knebworth '90, and the rest of the gig with other bands on it my parents recorded, is what got me into guitar when I was 8 (His Soldano years there too).
Buuuut... his tone on Cream studio records and the Derek... album (Which I like a lot) is just horrible to me. Really buzzy and tinny!
Buuuut... his tone on Cream studio records and the Derek... album (Which I like a lot) is just horrible to me. Really buzzy and tinny!
metalmaniac93
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Not a huge Clapton fan and think he is overrated compared to a lot of his peers during that time period (Beck, Page, Peter Green, Hendrix, Mike Bloomfield, Santana, Mick Taylor, Rory Gallagher etc.), but a joke is just plain ridiculous. I grew up listening to him as my Dad was a huge fan so I have some level of respect for him and he still is a legendary player IMO!!! Journeyman is a great disc as well as From The Cradle!!! Of course Cream is awesome as well as Blind Faith and Derek and the Domino's.
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mdc1mdc11
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Some of the fans of EVH, Eric Johnson and others should know better. His playing is all over their styles and they are not the only ones.
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mdc1mdc11
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geetarmikey":1yb2pbn4 said:
Yeah he really should have used a high gain modded Marshall back in the 60's instead of turning it wide open to create distortion.
lol
geetarmikey
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mdc1mdc11":iyqoqqct said:
Maybe I wasn't making myself clear enough - compare the throaty brown sound of Hideaway with Bluesbreakers, to the almost "straight into the desk" sound on this track from the Layla album post Cream. This is what I was getting at, maybe they started recoding his guitar differently?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9N8Qi6zLSU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3dW5F6GKTs
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geetarmikey":319w9e73 said:
he used Marshalls in Cream, he used Music Man amps in the 70s (very fenderish)...emphasis was on the song, not the guitar theatrics. That is why he is still relevant regardless of the nuances of tone change. Beyond the Soldano, seems more like a Fender amp type of guy for a long time now.
rottingcorpse
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"Tears in heaven" is a truly well written song,and comes from the bowls of ones soul at his darkest moment. I am not a Clapton fan at all,but I know good stuff when I feel it.
Wax poetic about an artists heyday all you wish. You will miss them when they are gone,regardless of how you feel about their material you don't like.
Wax poetic about an artists heyday all you wish. You will miss them when they are gone,regardless of how you feel about their material you don't like.
geetarmikey
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mdc1mdc11":1oyf735w said:
Yeah, but it was a Marshall for Hideaway and that album though, famously, so I just wonder what changed between then and Cream?
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mdc1mdc11
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according to this Marshall JTM 45 Combo.
http://www.whereseric.com/the-vault/gui ... historical
Fender Champ slammed on Derek and the Dominos....lol
http://www.whereseric.com/the-vault/gui ... historical
Fender Champ slammed on Derek and the Dominos....lol
skoora
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journeyman73":1e13uu32 said:
Did I say like? I meant better.
Just because someone is an established artist doesn't mean they are great. It just means at one time they were probably great (which he was), which launched them and they were able to maintain, which Clapton did by switching gears and going more song orientated and mellow. But Heroin can do that to you. He's become comfortable for people. Basically he's a very non threatening, easy listening, pop star. The mid to late 60's was a case of perfect timing for him as his approach and style at the time was big and bad to know for the period. He hasn't pushed any boundaries or done anything truly on fire since then. Beck may be the weird anomaly who continues to be interesting or at least going for it. I'm not saying Clapton's a bad player. He's a very good blues guitar player. But he's also incredibly overrated. But also I would say I would rather listen to Clapton play blues than Gary Moore who I'm a big fan of. Gary never sat right in the blues for me.
As always opinions are like assholes so if you love him or think he's the bees knees, more power to you.
Chester Nimitz
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