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Stimulus checks are not to be reported as income, and you do not have to pay taxes on them. If anything, you may end up getting a payout if you were previously eligible and didn’t claim it. Simple as that.

If you paid taxes on them, congratulations! You just paid the govt the money you didn’t owe them.
 
I've seen a few pretty good, or at least fair prices on things that I was interested in, but just didn't/don't have the spare cash for them. Between some unexpected and routine vet bills I ended up selling my last tube amp several months ago. Getting Covid and missing a week of work didn't help.:doh:I'm rocking a distortion pedal based rig right now and I'm completely happy with it.
 
The best part about this thread is our new friend harry coot hahahahaha am I the only one who enjoys this gem lmao?
If you are referring to the stimulus not being free, I am actually good with this, also. I think it is better that we didn't just print money for it. I just find it funny they spread it through the year rather than the big boom we usually get.
 
If you are referring to the stimulus not being free, I am actually good with this, also. I think it is better that we didn't just print money for it. I just find it funny they spread it through the year rather than the big boom we usually get.
You are seriously fucked in the head if that's what you got out of what I said....it was blatant and I refuse to explain as u obviously are limited in your dialect to only speak baffoon.
 
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You are seriously fucked in the head if that's what you got out of what I said....it was blatant and I refuse to explain as u obviously are limited in your dialect to only speak baffoon.
No need to be a computer tough guy. I misread what you said as and as if you were talking about something you and he enjoyed. But misreading that one word it changed what you meant. I am so sorry that I misinterpreted your post.
 
Stimulus checks are not to be reported as income, and you do not have to pay taxes on them. If anything, you may end up getting a payout if you were previously eligible and didn’t claim it. Simple as that.

If you paid taxes on them, congratulations! You just paid the govt the money you didn’t owe them.
Correct, they are not income. The $2,800 per person bill(which included the money per child, I don't remember how much) was a tax credit advance. They loaned you your tax credit rather than deducting it from your taxable income. But, if you happen to make under a certain amount they will forgive you on the advance. If you make under another amount it gets prorated. The monthly child payout thing was an advance specifically on the child tax credit, which is separate. I'm starting to suspect the people not aware of this fall into the low income category, and have never dealt with owing and therefore don't pay attention to this stuff or know the intricacies of taxes. Not trying to be a dick, just an observation.

EDIT: IT was $2,800 per married couple, and $1,400 per child. Looking back at my documents, I may have the 2020 and 2021 credits mixed up. The 2020 I know was an advance. I'd have to relook at CARES again, I haven't even started filing since I know its going to be a bloodbath this year.
 
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CARES ACT[2020] :
‘‘SEC. 6428. 2020 RECOVERY REBATES FOR INDIVIDUALS. ‘‘(a) IN GENERAL.—In the case of an eligible individual, there shall be allowed as a credit against the tax imposed by subtitle A for the first taxable year beginning in 2020 an amount equal to the sum of— ‘‘(1) $1,200 ($2,400 in the case of eligible individuals filing a joint return), plus ‘‘(2) an amount equal to the product of $500 multiplied by the number of qualifying children (within the meaning of section 24(c)) of the taxpayer

AMERICAN RESCUE[2021] :
``SEC. 6428B. <<NOTE: 26 USC 6428B.>> 2021 RECOVERY REBATES TO
INDIVIDUALS.

``(a) In General.--In <<NOTE: Effective date.>> the case of an
eligible individual, there shall be allowed as a credit against the tax
imposed by subtitle A for the first taxable year beginning in 2021 an
amount equal to the 2021 rebate amount determined for such taxable year.

``(b) 2021 Rebate Amount.--For purposes of this section, the term
`2021 rebate amount' means, with respect to any taxpayer for any taxable
year, the sum of--
``(1) $1,400 ($2,800 in the case of a joint return), plus
``(2) $1,400 multiplied by the number of dependents of the
taxpayer for such taxable year.
 
Sorry for nerding out and posting the text. Thought it might be helpful for some of you.
 
Holy shit I have just done the conversion of what you guys in the US are paying for Gas compared to here in communist New Zealand. Our average gas price for the cheapest petrol is around $2.70 per litre so basically we are paying $12.10 a gallon in NZ $ which converts to roughly $7.98us a Gallon
 
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I’m running into problems with this new 1099-k BS. Platforms accepting donations from others are even going as filing the donations as miscellaneous business transactions and not gifts (no exchange of goods or services) and are making people pay hefty state and federal taxes on donations/gifts. Basically businesses don’t even know how to code this new 1099-K BS correctly because gifts/donations cannot be filed under a 1099-K.
 
Sorry for nerding out and posting the text. Thought it might be helpful for some of you.
It apparently didn’t help you :D Let’s break this down so it’s easy to understand.

That stimulus check was an advance payment of the recovery rebate. If you didn’t receive that advance payment but are eligible, you could then claim it on your taxes. Following so far? Good.

It’s a refund (a “refundable tax credit”) that exists outside of your earned income for the year. This means you do not include it in your income, and you not pay taxes on it. It’s a fixed, absolute amount given back to you if you’re eligible. If you’re eligible for $2800 for example, you’re getting $2800 applied after all of your taxes are calculated. Need an example? Sure, let’s do a few.

Person A: Was eligible for $1400, received it via a stimulus check earlier in the year, does not impact his taxes.

Person B: Didn’t receive a stimulus payment, but is eligible for $1400. Does taxes and when finished, he is owed $600. Recovery rebate applies at the end, and he receives $2000 back.

Person C: Didn’t receive a stimulus payment, but is eligible for $1400. Does taxes and when finished, he owes the govt $400 in taxes. Recovery rebate applies at the end, and he receives $1000 back where he would have owed $400 otherwise.

If you do your taxes and discover that you shouldn’t have received the payment at all, guess what? You don’t have to pay it back per federal regulation.

This isn’t “free money” at all. It’s your money that the the govt is handing back to you that you’ve paid with previous taxes. The stimulus payment and recovery rebate are the exact same thing. The only difference is when you ended up receiving it.

There is absolutely zero downside to it for you as a taxpayer, unless your stance is “Nah bro, it’s cool you want to give me back some tax money I paid you before, but I’d rather you keep it.”

If that’s your stance, feel free to give the govt all the donations you want. I’d personally take back all of my tax money I’d paid that they wanted to give me if I was eligible.

Child tax credits do have some variance, but that’s a different ballgame.
 
It apparently didn’t help you :D Let’s break this down so it’s easy to understand.

That stimulus check was an advance payment of the recovery rebate. If you didn’t receive that advance payment but are eligible, you could then claim it on your taxes. Following so far? Good.

It’s a refund (a “refundable tax credit”) that exists outside of your earned income for the year. This means you do not include it in your income, and you not pay taxes on it. It’s a fixed, absolute amount given back to you if you’re eligible. If you’re eligible for $2800 for example, you’re getting $2800 applied after all of your taxes are calculated. Need an example? Sure, let’s do a few.

Person A: Was eligible for $1400, received it via a stimulus check earlier in the year, does not impact his taxes.

Person B: Didn’t receive a stimulus payment, but is eligible for $1400. Does taxes and when finished, he is owed $600. Recovery rebate applies at the end, and he receives $2000 back.

Person C: Didn’t receive a stimulus payment, but is eligible for $1400. Does taxes and when finished, he owes the govt $400 in taxes. Recovery rebate applies at the end, and he receives $1000 back where he would have owed $400 otherwise.

If you do your taxes and discover that you shouldn’t have received the payment at all, guess what? You don’t have to pay it back per federal regulation.

This isn’t “free money” at all. It’s your money that the the govt is handing back to you that you’ve paid with previous taxes. The stimulus payment and recovery rebate are the exact same thing. The only difference is when you ended up receiving it.

There is absolutely zero downside to it for you as a taxpayer, unless your stance is “Nah bro, it’s cool you want to give me back some tax money I paid you before, but I’d rather you keep it.”

If that’s your stance, feel free to give the govt all the donations you want. I’d personally take back all of my tax money I’d paid that they wanted to give me if I was eligible.

Child tax credits do have some variance, but that’s a different ballgame.
That's weird. It explicitly says "shall be allowed as a credit against the tax imposed". If the IRS try's to use this whole law thing against me I'll be sure to show them your post.
 
That's weird. It explicitly says "shall be allowed as a credit against the tax imposed". If the IRS try's to use this whole law thing against me I'll be sure to show them your post.
They won’t, because it’s not how the regulation works, but if they try to for some strange reason, you’re welcome to point them here.
 
One thing that happened as with me is lots of guys are ordering directly from people making amps . My last two amps I ordered I’m still waiting on . So that’s a new factor that’s becoming more prevalent these days. My NAD have been a long wait because of it
 
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Anytime the gov't. has tried to buy my vote by handing out someone else's money, I use it to pay taxes, buy ammo or travel abroad - anything the gov't. doesn't want me to do with it.
 
Same here. I have received absolutely zero in stimulus or other "free" money from the government.
I get it, a few of my friends who own business’s with employees got massive payroll protection checks, sadly, they just banked it.
I don’t need any hand me downs, but I’ll take
yours or “their” free money if you give it to me.
Then I’ll buy one of your amps!! LTFOL!
Ironically, that’s really what we’re seeing, the tide
go back out because all that easy money got spent.
The rapacious creditor..always collects.
Fire in the f’n hole man.
 
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