Experience with Marshall MX212AR Cab or Seventy 80 Speakers?

[angelspade]

I'm looking at a pair Marshall 2X12 vertical cabs for blended amp set up and there is a pair of Marshall MX212AR 160-Watt 2x12 cans with Seventy 80 speakers available locally cheap...But I have read somewhat mixed reviews on the speakers (never tried them). Or I can pay up for a pair of Marshall Studio Classic 2x12s with G12 V-Type speakers. The cabs will be used for hard rock / metal moderate and high gain tones primarily. If anyone here has any experience with these cabs or speakers I would appreciate thoughts and opinions. Thanks!

 

[Mike Oxhuge]

Seventy 80 speakers sound like a broken aids infested rape whistle. V type is much better sounding like a V30 with less mid spike. Not sure if there are construction differences between these cabs but I suspect the MX series are mdf construction.

 

[Findthetone1]

Seventy 80 speakers sound like a broken aids infested rape whistle. V type is much better sounding like a V30 with less mid spike. Not sure if there are construction differences between these cabs but I suspect the MX series are mdf construction.

Can you please produce said example to which the speaker is compared to? THIS, I want to see.

OP, calling them a broken aids infested rape whistle might actually be a complement. If it's cheap enough, and the cabinet construction is good, then maybe pull the trigger with the intention of new speakers. Otherwise, the Studio cab is a MUCH better option.

 

[Mike Oxhuge]

Can you please produce said example to which the speaker is compared to? THIS, I want to see.

OP, calling them a broken aids infested rape whistle might actually be a complement. If it's cheap enough, and the cabinet construction is good, then maybe pull the trigger with the intention of new speakers. Otherwise, the Studio cab is a MUCH better option.

Why buy a cab with garbage speakers and then spend more money on replacements when there are plenty of quality already loaded with good speakers cabs out there for less money in total investment?

 

[Findthetone1]

Why buy a cab with garbage speakers and then spend more money on replacements when there are plenty of quality already loaded with good speakers cabs out there for less money in total investment?

Fair point. I guess meaning it'd have to be stupid cheap to be considered.

 

[angelspade]

Fair point. I guess meaning it'd have to be stupid cheap to be considered.

The pair are actually "stupid cheap"...That said, if the seventy 80 speakers are junk, I will likely pass

 

[Findthetone1]

The pair are actually "stupid cheap"...That said, if the seventy 80 speakers are junk, I will likely pass

For anything with high gain, they are pretty shitty. Smart move.

 

[The~Kid]

I'm looking at a pair Marshall 2X12 vertical cabs for blended amp set up and there is a pair of Marshall MX212AR 160-Watt 2x12 cans with Seventy 80 speakers available locally cheap...But I have read somewhat mixed reviews on the speakers (never tried them). Or I can pay up for a pair of Marshall Studio Classic 2x12s with G12 V-Type speakers. The cabs will be used for hard rock / metal moderate and high gain tones primarily. If anyone here has any experience with these cabs or speakers I would appreciate thoughts and opinions. Thanks!

Id go for the Studio Classic version. I figure the MX version is baffle/particle boards and the Studio version is baltic birch too or a hard ply/wood.


This is probably the Main difference in Price and Quality but for that Price I would look at something else like a Friedman, Bad Cat or Mesa cab.


Even a 212 EVH cab would be as Nice for less and maybe better in some aspects too.

 

[Bloodrock]

Seventy 80 speakers sound like a broken aids infested rape whistle. V type is much better sounding like a V30 with less mid spike. Not sure if there are construction differences between these cabs but I suspect the MX series are mdf construction.

After owning several of both I'd say the V type is like a V30 with the mids on zero. The 7080 is a lot closer to a v30 overall but with the mids on 20. Lol

 

[angelspade]

After owning several of both I'd say the V type is like a V30 with the mids on zero. The 7080 is a lot closer to a v30 overall but with the mids on 20. Lol

So you weren't a fan of the 70 80s either?

 

[napalmdeath]

The pair are actually "stupid cheap"...That said, if the seventy 80 speakers are junk, I will likely pass

You get what you pair for. I've had the 1x12's, and even with upgraded speakers, they're garbage.

 

[ChurchHill]

FWIW, the 7080s weren't the worst speakers I've ever heard, but they were pretty damn close. AFAIK, those MX cabs are cheap MDF, not that all MDF is cheap or bad, but, together, that's a hard pass for me.

Mostly, I've wasted too much money thinking that something would be close enough, when it wasn't, and ended up spending twice as much to just end up where I should've been in the first place.

 

[Mike Oxhuge]

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After owning several of both I'd say the V type is like a V30 with the mids on zero. The 7080 is a lot closer to a v30 overall but with the mids on 20. Lol

I agree to disagree. I got tons of speakers here, and unless I got lucky and you didn't, your ears are broken to prefer the Seventy 80. Vtype is half greenback half V30 tonally.

 

[7704A]

The 70/80 would be much better if Celestion removed the bees.

 

[The~Kid]

IMO here it's not so much that 70/80s are Bad.....


They are actually pretty decent and actually amazing once broken in IME. But the construction of the MX cab or even the build and speakers used in the Studio version could leave a lot to be desired IMO.....



It's just Best to go for a Mesa, Friedman, Bad Cat or even something like an EVH cab in this case.


Given opportunity cost You just have better cabs IME for around the same more or less.

 

[mentoneman]

Seventy 80 speakers sound like a broken aids infested rape whistle. V type is much better sounding like a V30 with less mid spike. Not sure if there are construction differences between these cabs but I suspect the MX series are mdf construction.

couldn’t agree more about those speakers. i call them pie pans. pulled one out of a Tech 21 power engine combo and literally discus threw it straight into the dumpster.

 

[angelspade]

couldn’t agree more about those speakers. i call them pie pans. pulled one out of a Tech 21 power engine combo and literally discus threw it straight into the dumpster.

This is why I run things by you guys before buying...My way of thinking was, they're celestions...How bad can they be?

 

[mentoneman]

This is why I run things by you guys before buying...My way of thinking was, they're celestions...How bad can they be?

i’ve heard others find them ok and to each their own. maybe there were runs of these that were better than others. but the one i had sounded insanely bad. i swapped in a scumback and the clouds parted.

 

[creep66]

Ivery had one for sale locally for 20 bucks for like a year now, no takers if that tells you anything.

 

[angelspade]

Well...I've always used either V30s or GT-75s. But, sounds like (based on my research) the consensus is that the Celestion V-Type speakers in the Marshall SC2x12 cabs is held in pretty high regard. Anyone have experience with them for hard rock and metal?