Floyd going sharp while sitting,

[TheBiggestJerk]

The chatbot has never play a guitar with a Floyd… it has no dog in this race. It farms the internet for other lousy illogical opinions and passes them off as gospel. And you fell for it with that “I’ll show that guy, the internet said it so it must be true” logic.

Actually I’ve owned several 1st year Wolfgang’s back when Ed was with PEAVEY, and multiple replicas that I built, and various other Floyd equipt instruments.
I’ve got a good handle on how these work including making tools to make them work better. The whole Floyd platform is built upon Leo Fenders synchronized floating trem. The engineering simply wasn’t designed to contact the face at zero. The patent clearly bears that out. I’m not ignoring that.

So really... who’s the ignorant one?

You remind me of the coach in Moneyball… Art Howe - Phillip Seymour Hoffmans character. The only thing worse than ignorance is arrogance.

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Would ya look at that. The Floyd Rose patent also shows it floating… just like the Fender.

 

[Liam]

Let the chat bot reference go, it's a moot point to argue since the reference was spot on and factual.

Would ya look at that. The Floyd Rose patent also shows it floating… just like the Fender.

What does that have to do with EVH guitars?

Since you don't believe my words, please read #4. Those are his words. It can't be more clear than that.

https://www.musicradar.com/news/the-10-different-ways-eddie-van-halen-made-guitar-great#He

"To assist with both tuning stability and his tone, Ed would always set his bridge flat to the guitar body, thus giving the vibrato only downward movement and any EVH guitar you buy today will be set-up in the same manner.

“All flush to the body.” He confirms. “Everything needs to be connected. I even like my cabinets on wood, not on wheels. Everything needs to be solidly connected. The more connection, the more sustain and resonance.”

The fact that he did what he did with his vibratos that only went downwards still beggars belief and he was the first to liberally scatter rock songs with divebombs, gurgles and glissandos from his whammy bar that actually remained in tune."

 

[Liam]

Have rear springs pretty tight, but I noticed this past weekend, I can make the bass side of the bridge move backwards slightly by pulling up on the bar.

Btw, don't do that. Ouch.

As you noticed, with enough force up on the bar you can dislodge it. It's setup to not be pulled up, at all. Yes you can do it, but with undesirable results.

 

[TheBiggestJerk]

Btw, don't do that. Ouch.

As you noticed, with enough force up on the bar you can dislodge it. It's setup to not be pulled up, at all. Yes you can do it, but with undesirable results.

Listen to this flip flop refer to “design”… yet dismiss everything I said about it.
unfuckingbelievable!

Every single string can endure at least 5 halfsteps of up bend. It’s literally the reason they route them out. Even with a 1mm gap which is what it should have, allows for at least a whole step of up bend. Your advice is absolute trash.

 

[Liam]

Listen to this flip flop refer to “design”… yet dismiss everything I said about it.
unfuckingbelievable!

Every single string can endure at least 5 halfsteps of up bend. It’s literally the reason they route them out. Even with a 1mm gap which is what it should have, allows for at least a whole step of up bend. Your advice is absolute trash.

I was speaking to the OP, but since you wanna jump in again, I believe you're a bit out of your mind. Or you can't read when given the opportunity to correct yourself.

EVH didn't use the Floyd as designed. Nor did he use the Fender bridge as designed. Your contributions to the thread about their design and intended use is spot on, but that doesn't come into play with EVH guitars. Ed designed his guitars with the Floyd to be used not exactly as designed with a float, but rather absolutely decked to the body with enough spring tension to keep it there unless diving it. Always. He never floated his bridges, ever. He had zero desire to grab a router for space underneath the tail of the bridge, he didn't want it floating.You can't buy an EVH guitar with one.

You must just love to argue because you certainly haven't provided any kind of link to refute anything I've said. I must too it seems as I keep coming back for more.

Please link a video with a Wolfgang setup talking about floating it. Or maybe a link from the EVH site or an owners manual .pdf or honestly anything at this point to convince me you somehow someway, and for some reason are supposed to put a float on a EVH Floyd. I'd like to see it. Please prove me wrong.

That's why others and myself believe the issue to be environmentally induced. The bridge is decked at the factory by design, it's pretty much out of the equation in this issue of going sharp as there is no float. There's nowhere farther "back" for the trem to go to pull the strings sharp.

 

[TheBiggestJerk]

I was speaking to the OP, but since you wanna jump in again, I believe you're a bit out of your mind. Or you can't read when given the opportunity to correct yourself.

EVH didn't use the Floyd as designed. Nor did he use the Fender bridge as designed. Your contributions to the thread about their design and intended use is spot on, but that doesn't come into play with EVH guitars. Ed designed his guitars with the Floyd to be used not exactly as designed with a float, but rather absolutely decked to the body with enough spring tension to keep it there unless diving it. Always. He never floated his bridges, ever. You can't buy an EVH guitar with one.

You must just love to argue because you certainly haven't provided any kind of link to refute anything I've said. I must too it seems as I keep coming back for more.

Please link a video with a Wolfgang setup talking about floating it. Or maybe a link from the EVH site or an owners manual .pdf or honestly anything at this point to convince me you somehow someway, and for some reason are supposed to put a float on a EVH Floyd. I'd like to see it. Please prove me wrong.

That's why others and myself believe the issue to be environmentally induced. The bridge is decked at the factory by design, it's pretty much out of the equation in this issue of going sharp as there is no float. There's nowhere farther "back" for the trem to go to pull the strings sharp.

What EVH does is irrelevant. I gave both patent schematics. Again the Floyd rose is modded strat trem, that Leo Fender designed and Floyd built on it but it’s built on the same engineering. And Apparently EVH doesn’t know how to set it up correctly either otherwise we would not be having this conversation. It’s a design flaw that’s more than obvious and placating doesn’t help. This is the reason why these guitars don’t sell well and all come from the factory fucked right from the starts. Floyd Rose is the EV of guitars. Might as well be a cyber truck. For the record Leo Fender took his nods from the lap steel which bends up and down, which I think was in fact his intent with the Strat trem since the Tele didn’t do that. One-way (dive) bending doesn’t make any sense extrapolated from the patent.