For all you "VACCINE IS CAUSING BILLIONS OF DEATHS!!!!" People......

[VonBonfire]

Okay, thanks for the clarification. I agree with you that some of the claims are hyperbolic.

I think you previously used the phrase “Large number of deaths,” and now you’re saying “Numerous.” It’s difficult to know what you mean. I believe COVID has been said to have killed 1,000,000 Americans, or about .3% of the population, and for that we upended daily life.

My understanding is that the vaccines probably killed around half that. Certainly not billions, but is that a large number or no?

He's deflecting. No one who took the shot wants to admit "this was a mistake" until they are biting their tongue in two while palsing out on the floor someplace. Then they all wanna sue. Until then you're a piece of excrement if you didn't take it like me. Warped way of thinking. Vaccines kill.

 

[Bad Brain]

He's deflecting. No one who took the shot wants to admit "this was a mistake" until they are biting their tongue in two while palsing out on the floor someplace. Then they all wanna sue. Until then you're a piece of excrement if you didn't take it like me. Warped way of thinking. Vaccines kill.

Yeah, my point is that even if vaccines didn’t kill billions — which I don’t really think anyone’s seriously claimed — they still killed people. And they maimed many more — probably over a million. Long term I think it will be apparent it was catastrophe of our own making. Well, their making.

 

[Krull]

This is logical, but the data doesn’t support:

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This chart makes perfect sense. Rolling out the boosters in September 2021...

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us...9-vaccine-booster-doses-september-2021-08-18/

"The booster shots initially will focus upon healthcare workers, nursing home residents and older people, among the first groups to be vaccinated in late 2020 and early 2021, top U.S. health officials said in a joint statement."

 

[VonBonfire]

Yeah, my point is that even if vaccines didn’t kill billions — which I don’t really think anyone’s seriously claimed — they still killed people. And they maimed many more — probably over a million. Long term I think it will be apparent it was catastrophe of our own making. Well, their making.

It's an experiment. Emergency Use Authorization. The results aren't in yet.

 

[psychodave]

It's an experiment. Emergency Use Authorization. The results aren't in yet.

I’d love to see the statistics on all of the doctors that died in Canada after the vax roll out. I bet the probabilities of that event are in the trillions to one, thus shedding light on some outside force, aka the Covid 19 vax.

 

[Racerxrated]

Okay, thanks for the clarification. I agree with you that some of the claims are hyperbolic.

I think you previously used the phrase “Large number of deaths,” and now you’re saying “Numerous.” It’s difficult to know what you mean. I believe COVID has been said to have killed 1,000,000 Americans, or about .3% of the population, and for that we upended daily life.

My understanding is that the vaccines probably killed around half that. Certainly not billions, but is that a large number or no?

"My understanding is that the vaccines" WHAT????? Based on what? Your opinion? Some right wing extremist website?? Cmon dude.

Because the original bullshitter who posted the 'Dying young' thread deleted it, you weren't here to see it and it's now gone. But it was clear he was insinuating that the vaccine is DEADLY. And was killing EVERYONE EVERYWHERE. The Funeral homes were overflowing like they were during the height of Covid.
But this is complete BULLSHIT, the funeral homes were NOT overflowing. Not even close.
IF the vaccine WAS killing MiLLIONS and MILLIONS of people, you'd see the daily death rate go WAY UP. Especially since 270 MILLION of us here in the US, got the vaccine.
But it didn't go up.
It went down, as I showed in the yearly daily death rate.

Vaccines aren't killing Hundreds of thousands, millions, or billions of people, like the Far Right Extremists want you to believe.
Fake News.
Always has been.

 

[VonBonfire]

I’d love to see the statistics on all of the doctors that died in Canada after the vax roll out. I bet the probabilities of that event are in the trillions to one, thus shedding light on some outside force, aka the Covid 19 vax.

Must be climate change....

 

[Krull]

Must be climate change....

 

[Ben Waylin]

"My understanding is that the vaccines" WHAT????? Based on what? Your opinion? Some right wing extremist website?? Cmon dude.

Because the original bullshitter who posted the 'Dying young' thread deleted it, you weren't here to see it and it's now gone. But it was clear he was insinuating that the vaccine is DEADLY. And was killing EVERYONE EVERYWHERE. The Funeral homes were overflowing like they were during the height of Covid.
But this is complete BULLSHIT, the funeral homes were NOT overflowing. Not even close.
IF the vaccine WAS killing MiLLIONS and MILLIONS of people, you'd see the daily death rate go WAY UP. Especially since 270 MILLION of us here in the US, got the vaccine.
But it didn't go up.
It went down, as I showed in the yearly daily death rate.

Vaccines aren't killing Hundreds of thousands, millions, or billions of people, like the Far Right Extremists want you to believe.
Fake News.
Always has been.

It's time for you to get another "booster".

?

 

[Bad Brain]

Based on what? Your opinion? Some right wing extremist website??

It seems like your political views are biasing your willingness to look at the data.

Vaccines aren't killing Hundreds of thousands,

I already provided a few different sources, including a peer reviewed study (Which of course was retracted, because you’re not allowed to find that the vaccines are hurting people.) Did you review these?

 

[Ben Waylin]

It seems like your political views are biasing your willingness to look at the data.

Every time he says "right wing extremist", take a shot of whisky.

 

[Racerxrated]

It's time for you to get another "booster".

?

…And it’s time for you to go back to the gear page….oh wait..

 

[harddriver]

. There is an obvious right wing extremist mission if you will to discredit and paint the vaccine as somehow 'unsafe' or 'dangerous', even going so far as to suggest it is actually killing people at a high rate. That study, when you read about the fact check just simply doesn't say anything like what the 'right' says to any degree of certainty; like they suggest. It's similar to the other 'chart' someone posted which again, showed the numbers of ALL deaths from many different age groups. It's nothing more than a scare tactic full of fake news.

Again, my only point here in this thread was to point out that IF the vaccine IS causing deaths, at a high rate as the right wing extremists say, then the daily death rate for the year 2022 would be as high or even higher than 2021...esp since over 270,000,000 US citizens have gotten one form of the vaccine. But the daily death rate went down significantly for 2022, proving that the vaccine is NOT causing a large number of deaths.

And, it's also significant to see that the stupid thread suggesting that the vaccine was causing all these deaths was removed from this sub forum. That says everything Imo. Especially since one of the so called 'obituaries' was of someone I knew, who died at age 45...suddenly.........
But that will happen when you hit a tree going 50 mph on a snowmobile in Wisconsin. Not from the fucking vaccine. Proving yet again, that the right wing extremists are just utterly FULL OF SHIT.

The government runs VAERS VSAFE and military health tracking database all show extremely high incidences of adverse reactions and deaths if one is willing to acknowledge the data shown in the government's own compilation of data. In addition to that the VAERS system has an under reporting percentage of greater than 90+%, this was verified by a Harvard study. Not to mention the actuarial data coming from the insurance companies and the Federal Reserve's reporting of large increases of disability claims since 2021 which are hard facts coming from the St Louis FED.

It's all been posted for anyone to review and to pass their own judgement on the data as we obviously are going to have to agree to disagree with what the Cleveland Clinic study revealed. Even if we omit the safety aspect of the argument the effectiveness of the injection is actually completely inverted showing negative efficacy. The graph clearly shows that no matter how many fact checkers say the opposite. You can dismiss the data all you like it does not invalidate the data nor the qualified sources one bit. I fully understand...I wouldn't want to hear or see any of this data either.

 

[Bad Brain]

I fully understand...I wouldn't want to hear or see any of this data either.

Especially when your job depends on it.

 

[Ben Waylin]

…And it’s time for you to go back to the gear page….

Already there.

 

[harddriver]

Just answer me this... if this injection was completely safe with absolutely no side effects then why were these well known side effects being discussed by the FDA in October of 2020? All of these adverse reactions were seen and recorded by all the vaccine safety monitoring programs, VAERS, VSAFE and DOD.

The FDA was fully aware of the possible side effects....they even published it in October 22, 2020. The FDA.gov link is still good and the information is still there......almost three years later. PAGE 16

https://www.fda.gov/media/143557/download

FDA Safety Surveillance of COVID-19 Vaccines : DRAFT Working list of possible adverse event outcomes ***Subject to change***
 Guillain-Barré syndrome
 Acute disseminated encephalomyelitis
 Transverse myelitis
 Encephalitis/myelitis/encephalomyelitis/ meningoencephalitis/meningitis/ encepholapathy
 Convulsions/seizures
 Stroke
 Narcolepsy and cataplexy
 Anaphylaxis
 Acute myocardial infarction
 Myocarditis/pericarditis
 Autoimmune disease
 Deaths
 Pregnancy and birth outcomes
 Other acute demyelinating diseases
 Non-anaphylactic allergic reactions
 Thrombocytopenia
 Disseminated intravascular coagulation
 Venous thromboembolism
 Arthritis and arthralgia/joint pain
 Kawasaki disease
 Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children
 Vaccine enhanced disease

I imagine alot of people including yourself probably would have declined an Experimental Use drug had you been given full informed consent. That alone is unethical, medical malpractice, criminal and a crime against humanity that was outlawed by the Nuremburg Code after World War II. I truly hope you consider all the data before taking another.

 

[harddriver]

If you won't listen to any of us Racer please consider what Dr. Paul Offit says here. He sits on the FDA panel and fully endorsed these injections but his views are changing at least as it applies to his own personal health.

 

[VonBonfire]

Just answer me this... if this injection was completely safe with absolutely no side effects then why were these well known side effects being discussed by the FDA in October of 2020? All of these adverse reactions were seen and recorded by all the vaccine safety monitoring programs, VAERS, VSAFE and DOD.

The FDA was fully aware of the possible side effects....they even published it in October 22, 2020. The FDA.gov link is still good and the information is still there......almost three years later. PAGE 16

https://www.fda.gov/media/143557/download

FDA Safety Surveillance of COVID-19 Vaccines : DRAFT Working list of possible adverse event outcomes ***Subject to change***
 Guillain-Barré syndrome
 Acute disseminated encephalomyelitis
 Transverse myelitis
 Encephalitis/myelitis/encephalomyelitis/ meningoencephalitis/meningitis/ encepholapathy
 Convulsions/seizures
 Stroke
 Narcolepsy and cataplexy
 Anaphylaxis
 Acute myocardial infarction
 Myocarditis/pericarditis
 Autoimmune disease
 Deaths
 Pregnancy and birth outcomes
 Other acute demyelinating diseases
 Non-anaphylactic allergic reactions
 Thrombocytopenia
 Disseminated intravascular coagulation
 Venous thromboembolism
 Arthritis and arthralgia/joint pain
 Kawasaki disease
 Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children
 Vaccine enhanced disease

I imagine alot of people including yourself probably would have declined an Experimental Use drug had you been given full informed consent. That alone is unethical, medical malpractice, criminal and a crime against humanity that was outlawed by the Nuremburg Code after World War II. If truly hope you consider all the data before taking another.

Nobody wants to hear you defuse our "we're in this together" psychological programming. The vaccination efforts were critical to national security and the financial security of Pfizer. It's important to support the people protecting us by not questioning their product quality too closely.

 

[311boogieman]

Nobody wants to hear you defuse our "we're in this together" psychological programming. The vaccination efforts were critical to national security and the financial security of Pfizer. It's important to support the people protecting us by not questioning their product quality too closely.

This is gold

 

[311boogieman]

I imagine alot of people including yourself probably would have declined an Experimental Use drug had you been given full informed consent. That alone is unethical, medical malpractice, criminal and a crime against humanity that was outlawed by the Nuremburg Code after World War II. I truly hope you consider all the data before taking another.

I can imagine, if true, a primetime commercial where they talk about the benefits of the vax, and then rattle off all the potential risks real quick just like on TV today