Fortin Jose Marshalls?

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NewReligion":1kapy8lr said:
scottosan":1kapy8lr said:
The Yeti and KK are voiced very similar, the first video didn't sound like either to me. The Ceriatone stuff falls short in the power/NFB section. If you are going to copy a circuit, don't overlook one of the most critical parts of the design. But I guess, when the only parts of schematics that Nik copies from the internet are incomplete or incorrect, so you get 80%. Either of those amps could be modified to a more Cameron correct spec fairly easy.

Your signature builds sound great. I am in agreement with the Ceriatone commentary. It is obvious that Nik takes away from a single Cameron amp for a Circuit when most of us are aware Mark uses many different component values & manufacturers.

For example for the Yeti I did Mark happened to call while I was working on it. I told him what I was up to. He asked about the layout. After the description he stated he knew exactly which Jose Nik copied & why.

David

David,
Do you have a list of your available mods anywhere? I have a 1959SLP showing up tomorrow and I've been thinking about having it modded for tighter, higher gain tones than it's capable of now.
 
Bad.Seed":8o27jdoy said:
NewReligion":8o27jdoy said:
scottosan":8o27jdoy said:
The Yeti and KK are voiced very similar, the first video didn't sound like either to me. The Ceriatone stuff falls short in the power/NFB section. If you are going to copy a circuit, don't overlook one of the most critical parts of the design. But I guess, when the only parts of schematics that Nik copies from the internet are incomplete or incorrect, so you get 80%. Either of those amps could be modified to a more Cameron correct spec fairly easy.

Your signature builds sound great. I am in agreement with the Ceriatone commentary. It is obvious that Nik takes away from a single Cameron amp for a Circuit when most of us are aware Mark uses many different component values & manufacturers.

For example for the Yeti I did Mark happened to call while I was working on it. I told him what I was up to. He asked about the layout. After the description he stated he knew exactly which Jose Nik copied & why.

David

David,
Do you have a list of your available mods anywhere? I have a 1959SLP showing up tomorrow and I've been thinking about having it modded for tighter, higher gain tones than it's capable of now.

Thank you for the interest.

You can visit my YouTube page at NewReligion1954 and go through many video examples to include low Master Volume setting Questions to Gain Pot Taper Tutorials.

But I offer 4 different Mod Foundations

1.) Most Popular...Pandora = 3 & 4 stage (High & Low input) all tube analog High Gain. Comes with a Cathode Follower Clipper Switch consistent with a Friedman SAT switch which is totally bypassed unless engaged by DPDT Switch and Fixed Resonance or on a Pot. This Mod is offered with a Simple Single Master Volume Noiseless (No Pop) Foot Switchable Clean Channel with Voicing DPDT Switch to accommodate different Guitars & Cabs. ( Cleans up nicely with guitar volume pot).

2.) MorningStar = Same as the Pandora but Tighter & Brighter.

3.) Jose = MV, Gain 1 & Gain 2 with Fixed Clippers or 1 and or 2 way clippers on a switch with Resonance/Depth Pot in addition to Voicing Pot if desired. Single input.

Buffered Metropoulos Zero Loss Effects Loops & Passive Effects Loops are available.

For more information send email to New_Religion@Live.com

Thank you again for the interest.

David Hopkins
 
scottosan":12eyp3sp said:
The Yeti and KK are voiced very similar, the first video didn't sound like either to me. The Ceriatone stuff falls short in the power/NFB section. If you are going to copy a circuit, don't overlook one of the most critical parts of the design. But I guess, when the only parts of schematics that Nik copies from the internet are incomplete or incorrect, so you get 80%. Either of those amps could be modified to a more Cameron correct spec fairly easy.
Personal curiosity: what's inherently wrong in Ceriatone circuit? I mean sound wise. The mods I see here and there (but mostly here) are said to sound plain better, and more Cameron-like, but I'd like to understand a lil better what kind of objective improvements those mods deliver. Tighter? More djent metal articulation? More gain?
 
Zado":3cupb81c said:
scottosan":3cupb81c said:
The Yeti and KK are voiced very similar, the first video didn't sound like either to me. The Ceriatone stuff falls short in the power/NFB section. If you are going to copy a circuit, don't overlook one of the most critical parts of the design. But I guess, when the only parts of schematics that Nik copies from the internet are incomplete or incorrect, so you get 80%. Either of those amps could be modified to a more Cameron correct spec fairly easy.
Personal curiosity: what's inherently wrong in Ceriatone circuit? I mean sound wise. The mods I see here and there (but mostly here) are said to sound plain better, and more Cameron-like, but I'd like to understand a lil better what kind of objective improvements those mods deliver. Tighter? More djent metal articulation? More gain?
Cameron's designs in my opinion are the sum of all parts rather than a specific part of the circuit. Niks stuff copys alot of the physical topology, but uses alot traditional values for peaking cap/resistor values, tone stack slope resistor and treble cap values. He also uses generic depth/NFB values. Most of stuff as I've said before is made from incomplete or incorrect internet schematics and assumptions are made. Doing them partially is simply missing quite a bit. While Cameron s mods.a very much all 1 offs, there are signature component values that he like to use in most builds. B+ Voltage, transformer inductance and impedance all has an effect on the tone. It it in the power section and NFB, where you see the most tweaking to account for these differences. For example, the restistor.in line with the fixed or adjustable depth control will have a great affect on the brightness of the amp. Mark also has some trickery that he does with the depth control different than Nik as well as the type of caps used in this position will yield a more gritty tone. Nik rarely reverse engineers the amps. He barters parts for information and lurks some the DIY builder forums and let's others do the work.
 
Sorry but Im not really an expert when it comes to wiring and electric parts, so in the end the main differences are a gritties sound and more brightness? Rawer tone maybe?
 
scottosan":3dv4bmkj said:
Zado":3dv4bmkj said:
scottosan":3dv4bmkj said:
The Yeti and KK are voiced very similar, the first video didn't sound like either to me. The Ceriatone stuff falls short in the power/NFB section. If you are going to copy a circuit, don't overlook one of the most critical parts of the design. But I guess, when the only parts of schematics that Nik copies from the internet are incomplete or incorrect, so you get 80%. Either of those amps could be modified to a more Cameron correct spec fairly easy.
Personal curiosity: what's inherently wrong in Ceriatone circuit? I mean sound wise. The mods I see here and there (but mostly here) are said to sound plain better, and more Cameron-like, but I'd like to understand a lil better what kind of objective improvements those mods deliver. Tighter? More djent metal articulation? More gain?
Cameron's designs in my opinion are the sum of all parts rather than a specific part of the circuit. Niks stuff copys alot of the physical topology, but uses alot traditional values for peaking cap/resistor values, tone stack slope resistor and treble cap values. He also uses generic depth/NFB values. Most of stuff as I've said before is made from incomplete or incorrect internet schematics and assumptions are made. Doing them partially is simply missing quite a bit. While Cameron s mods.a very much all 1 offs, there are signature component values that he like to use in most builds. B+ Voltage, transformer inductance and impedance all has an effect on the tone. It it in the power section and NFB, where you see the most tweaking to account for these differences. For example, the restistor.in line with the fixed or adjustable depth control will have a great affect on the brightness of the amp. Mark also has some trickery that he does with the depth control different than Nik as well as the type of caps used in this position will yield a more gritty tone. Nik rarely reverse engineers the amps. He barters parts for information and lurks some the DIY builder forums and let's others do the work.


Well stated as far as my knowledge on Marks end. I will add that there are Tone Stack, Filtering and Voltage manipulations Mark uses on each individual build that accommodates each customer.

My biggest take away from what Mark has taught me is use your own ears to achieve the desired outcome once you have learned to manipulate the circuit assemblies. I tend to go for the smooth yet articulate growling chords with singing single note lead lines unless expressed otherwise.

David
 
+1 on what Scott said, the sauce is very much in the power section
 
SomedudeinTX":2gfr31ed said:
For any of the guys in the U.S. that have had Dan Gower mod an amp, how did the process go? Shipping cost to and from, customs, etc?

I have my killer kali coming in probably next week. It was pretty easy to find a donor amp in the uk. If I had to do it again, I don’t think I would go through it. Between the international credit card fees, the exchange rate rising and the over $200 to get it to me, it adds up quick. If I’m not completely floored by it, it will be on eBay and Reverb soon. Dan is really nice though.
 
Dont rule out member MichaelR/T if you want a killer Marshall mod. There are plenty of his YouTube vids to check out too. I know he's in Canada but I've talked to him on the phone before and he told me he's done a bunch of mods for guys in the U.S. and has never had any issues with amps shipped to him.
 
scottosan":3au6ayaz said:
Zado":3au6ayaz said:
scottosan":3au6ayaz said:
The Yeti and KK are voiced very similar, the first video didn't sound like either to me. The Ceriatone stuff falls short in the power/NFB section. If you are going to copy a circuit, don't overlook one of the most critical parts of the design. But I guess, when the only parts of schematics that Nik copies from the internet are incomplete or incorrect, so you get 80%. Either of those amps could be modified to a more Cameron correct spec fairly easy.
Personal curiosity: what's inherently wrong in Ceriatone circuit? I mean sound wise. The mods I see here and there (but mostly here) are said to sound plain better, and more Cameron-like, but I'd like to understand a lil better what kind of objective improvements those mods deliver. Tighter? More djent metal articulation? More gain?
Cameron's designs in my opinion are the sum of all parts rather than a specific part of the circuit. Niks stuff copys alot of the physical topology, but uses alot traditional values for peaking cap/resistor values, tone stack slope resistor and treble cap values. He also uses generic depth/NFB values. Most of stuff as I've said before is made from incomplete or incorrect internet schematics and assumptions are made. Doing them partially is simply missing quite a bit. While Cameron s mods.a very much all 1 offs, there are signature component values that he like to use in most builds. B+ Voltage, transformer inductance and impedance all has an effect on the tone. It it in the power section and NFB, where you see the most tweaking to account for these differences. For example, the restistor.in line with the fixed or adjustable depth control will have a great affect on the brightness of the amp. Mark also has some trickery that he does with the depth control different than Nik as well as the type of caps used in this position will yield a more gritty tone. Nik rarely reverse engineers the amps. He barters parts for information and lurks some the DIY builder forums and let's others do the work.

Agreed.

When I modded my JCA20 Mark and I went over everything. It was clearly the sum of all parts. I did mods to every section of the amp. There were fine tuning of the power section when I got my desired sound out of the preamp section. Also, part selection is a massive part of the the magic. Not all caps sound the same.

One thing David said that I don’t agree with is clipping. To me, when done right, it sounds as good as an all tube circuit.
 
psychodave":13v4b1fc said:
scottosan":13v4b1fc said:
Zado":13v4b1fc said:
scottosan":13v4b1fc said:
The Yeti and KK are voiced very similar, the first video didn't sound like either to me. The Ceriatone stuff falls short in the power/NFB section. If you are going to copy a circuit, don't overlook one of the most critical parts of the design. But I guess, when the only parts of schematics that Nik copies from the internet are incomplete or incorrect, so you get 80%. Either of those amps could be modified to a more Cameron correct spec fairly easy.
Personal curiosity: what's inherently wrong in Ceriatone circuit? I mean sound wise. The mods I see here and there (but mostly here) are said to sound plain better, and more Cameron-like, but I'd like to understand a lil better what kind of objective improvements those mods deliver. Tighter? More djent metal articulation? More gain?
Cameron's designs in my opinion are the sum of all parts rather than a specific part of the circuit. Niks stuff copys alot of the physical topology, but uses alot traditional values for peaking cap/resistor values, tone stack slope resistor and treble cap values. He also uses generic depth/NFB values. Most of stuff as I've said before is made from incomplete or incorrect internet schematics and assumptions are made. Doing them partially is simply missing quite a bit. While Cameron s mods.a very much all 1 offs, there are signature component values that he like to use in most builds. B+ Voltage, transformer inductance and impedance all has an effect on the tone. It it in the power section and NFB, where you see the most tweaking to account for these differences. For example, the restistor.in line with the fixed or adjustable depth control will have a great affect on the brightness of the amp. Mark also has some trickery that he does with the depth control different than Nik as well as the type of caps used in this position will yield a more gritty tone. Nik rarely reverse engineers the amps. He barters parts for information and lurks some the DIY builder forums and let's others do the work.

Agreed.

When I modded my JCA20 Mark and I went over everything. It was clearly the sum of all parts. I did mods to every section of the amp. There were fine tuning of the power section when I got my desired sound out of the preamp section. Also, part selection is a massive part of the the magic. Not all caps sound the same.

One thing David said that I don’t agree with is clipping. To me, when done right, it sounds as good as an all tube circuit.

I agree the clippers sound as good, even great, just different. But given the choice most (95%) of the guys that want my work are after the analog tube tone. Much like Doug Rappoport told me, he too never uses the SAT switch on the Friedman SS/BE 100.

With the music I play the clippers are enjoyable but then I plug into an all tube 4 stage with CF and it sounds huge and smooth. Then I plug into a non CF 4 stage all tube and it is as good as it gets to my ear. It is just that the non CF does not clean up as well with the guitar volume pot.

Tone is in the ear of the beholder. This is what brings diversity. I prefer a certain 2011 Blue Face VH4 over most amps I have ever played.

I will play a badass HSS Stratocaster over a Les Paul any day. Different strokes for different folks. Best to all.

David :rock:
 
After trying most of the variations, I like the simple dual gain, pre-tone stack master volume with clippers on an 800 circuit. 2k7/.68 cathodes in the first two stages. 820r/.68 in the third. 0.022uF coupler followed by 0.0022uF. 4700pF bright cap on Gain 2. Voltage divider on Gain 1 to taste. Goosed plate load on V1a. Depth circuit. The rest is stock. Pretty simple really. Tune the NFB and B+ rail to taste. If you want more variation, simply change how each stage is biased. Raise or lower the plate load. Alter the voltage divider. Change the NFB, etc. But none of this stuff is revolutionary and literally any tech can do it.

As far as clippers go, if the amp has 4 stages clippers aren't really needed. I have an amp here with 4 stages (plate-fed tone stack) and also has clippers and I really never use the diodes. That said, another amp I built here using the above topology sounds amazing with the diodes and only has 3 stages. Just different flavors.
 
FourT6and2":2og4dlw2 said:
After trying most of the variations, I like the simple dual gain, pre-tone stack master volume with clippers on an 800 circuit. 2k7/.68 cathodes in the first two stages. 820r/.68 in the third. 0.022uF coupler followed by 0.0022uF. 4700pF bright cap on Gain 2. Voltage divider on Gain 1 to taste. Goosed plate load on V1a. Depth circuit. The rest is stock. Pretty simple really. Tune the NFB and B+ rail to taste. If you want more variation, simply change how each stage is biased. Raise or lower the plate load. Alter the voltage divider. Change the NFB, etc. But none of this stuff is revolutionary and literally any tech can do it.

As far as clippers go, if the amp has 4 stages clippers aren't really needed. I have an amp here with 4 stages (plate-fed tone stack) and also has clippers and I really never use the diodes. That said, another amp I built here using the above topology sounds amazing with the diodes and only has 3 stages. Just different flavors.


I did not care for my experiment with 4 4 stage tube gain and clippers. It was too much. It may be worth revisiting in the near future.

David
 
NewReligion":18dg29nh said:
FourT6and2":18dg29nh said:
After trying most of the variations, I like the simple dual gain, pre-tone stack master volume with clippers on an 800 circuit. 2k7/.68 cathodes in the first two stages. 820r/.68 in the third. 0.022uF coupler followed by 0.0022uF. 4700pF bright cap on Gain 2. Voltage divider on Gain 1 to taste. Goosed plate load on V1a. Depth circuit. The rest is stock. Pretty simple really. Tune the NFB and B+ rail to taste. If you want more variation, simply change how each stage is biased. Raise or lower the plate load. Alter the voltage divider. Change the NFB, etc. But none of this stuff is revolutionary and literally any tech can do it.

As far as clippers go, if the amp has 4 stages clippers aren't really needed. I have an amp here with 4 stages (plate-fed tone stack) and also has clippers and I really never use the diodes. That said, another amp I built here using the above topology sounds amazing with the diodes and only has 3 stages. Just different flavors.


I did not care for my experiment with 4 4 stage tube gain and clippers. It was too much. It may be worth revisiting in the near future.

David

I wouldn't run clippers with 4 stages at the same time. But if the 4th stage is switchable, you can use one or the other on the same amp. That's what I meant. And in that scenario, I prefer 4 stages over 3 + diodes on that specific amp. Whereas the other amp with 3 stages (cathode follower) sounds great with diodes. Equally as good as the amp with 4 all-tube stages. Just a different flavor/feel. Some days I prefer one, some days I prefer the other. Just depends on my mood.
 
NewReligion":1yad1adq said:
psychodave":1yad1adq said:
scottosan":1yad1adq said:
Zado":1yad1adq said:
scottosan":1yad1adq said:
The Yeti and KK are voiced very similar, the first video didn't sound like either to me. The Ceriatone stuff falls short in the power/NFB section. If you are going to copy a circuit, don't overlook one of the most critical parts of the design. But I guess, when the only parts of schematics that Nik copies from the internet are incomplete or incorrect, so you get 80%. Either of those amps could be modified to a more Cameron correct spec fairly easy.
Personal curiosity: what's inherently wrong in Ceriatone circuit? I mean sound wise. The mods I see here and there (but mostly here) are said to sound plain better, and more Cameron-like, but I'd like to understand a lil better what kind of objective improvements those mods deliver. Tighter? More djent metal articulation? More gain?
Cameron's designs in my opinion are the sum of all parts rather than a specific part of the circuit. Niks stuff copys alot of the physical topology, but uses alot traditional values for peaking cap/resistor values, tone stack slope resistor and treble cap values. He also uses generic depth/NFB values. Most of stuff as I've said before is made from incomplete or incorrect internet schematics and assumptions are made. Doing them partially is simply missing quite a bit. While Cameron s mods.a very much all 1 offs, there are signature component values that he like to use in most builds. B+ Voltage, transformer inductance and impedance all has an effect on the tone. It it in the power section and NFB, where you see the most tweaking to account for these differences. For example, the restistor.in line with the fixed or adjustable depth control will have a great affect on the brightness of the amp. Mark also has some trickery that he does with the depth control different than Nik as well as the type of caps used in this position will yield a more gritty tone. Nik rarely reverse engineers the amps. He barters parts for information and lurks some the DIY builder forums and let's others do the work.

Agreed.

When I modded my JCA20 Mark and I went over everything. It was clearly the sum of all parts. I did mods to every section of the amp. There were fine tuning of the power section when I got my desired sound out of the preamp section. Also, part selection is a massive part of the the magic. Not all caps sound the same.

One thing David said that I don’t agree with is clipping. To me, when done right, it sounds as good as an all tube circuit.

I agree the clippers sound as good, even great, just different. But given the choice most (95%) of the guys that want my work are after the analog tube tone. Much like Doug Rappoport told me, he too never uses the SAT switch on the Friedman SS/BE 100.

With the music I play the clippers are enjoyable but then I plug into an all tube 4 stage with CF and it sounds huge and smooth. Then I plug into a non CF 4 stage all tube and it is as good as it gets to my ear. It is just that the non CF does not clean up as well with the guitar volume pot.

Tone is in the ear of the beholder. This is what brings diversity. I prefer a certain 2011 Blue Face VH4 over most amps I have ever played.

I will play a badass HSS Stratocaster over a Les Paul any day. Different strokes for different folks. Best to all.

David :rock:
Friedman's implementation of the Sat loses way to much top end. Practically worthless to my taste.
 
scottosan":19ety2ry said:
NewReligion":19ety2ry said:
psychodave":19ety2ry said:
scottosan":19ety2ry said:
Zado":19ety2ry said:
scottosan":19ety2ry said:
The Yeti and KK are voiced very similar, the first video didn't sound like either to me. The Ceriatone stuff falls short in the power/NFB section. If you are going to copy a circuit, don't overlook one of the most critical parts of the design. But I guess, when the only parts of schematics that Nik copies from the internet are incomplete or incorrect, so you get 80%. Either of those amps could be modified to a more Cameron correct spec fairly easy.
Personal curiosity: what's inherently wrong in Ceriatone circuit? I mean sound wise. The mods I see here and there (but mostly here) are said to sound plain better, and more Cameron-like, but I'd like to understand a lil better what kind of objective improvements those mods deliver. Tighter? More djent metal articulation? More gain?
Cameron's designs in my opinion are the sum of all parts rather than a specific part of the circuit. Niks stuff copys alot of the physical topology, but uses alot traditional values for peaking cap/resistor values, tone stack slope resistor and treble cap values. He also uses generic depth/NFB values. Most of stuff as I've said before is made from incomplete or incorrect internet schematics and assumptions are made. Doing them partially is simply missing quite a bit. While Cameron s mods.a very much all 1 offs, there are signature component values that he like to use in most builds. B+ Voltage, transformer inductance and impedance all has an effect on the tone. It it in the power section and NFB, where you see the most tweaking to account for these differences. For example, the restistor.in line with the fixed or adjustable depth control will have a great affect on the brightness of the amp. Mark also has some trickery that he does with the depth control different than Nik as well as the type of caps used in this position will yield a more gritty tone. Nik rarely reverse engineers the amps. He barters parts for information and lurks some the DIY builder forums and let's others do the work.

Agreed.

When I modded my JCA20 Mark and I went over everything. It was clearly the sum of all parts. I did mods to every section of the amp. There were fine tuning of the power section when I got my desired sound out of the preamp section. Also, part selection is a massive part of the the magic. Not all caps sound the same.

One thing David said that I don’t agree with is clipping. To me, when done right, it sounds as good as an all tube circuit.

I agree the clippers sound as good, even great, just different. But given the choice most (95%) of the guys that want my work are after the analog tube tone. Much like Doug Rappoport told me, he too never uses the SAT switch on the Friedman SS/BE 100.

With the music I play the clippers are enjoyable but then I plug into an all tube 4 stage with CF and it sounds huge and smooth. Then I plug into a non CF 4 stage all tube and it is as good as it gets to my ear. It is just that the non CF does not clean up as well with the guitar volume pot.

Tone is in the ear of the beholder. This is what brings diversity. I prefer a certain 2011 Blue Face VH4 over most amps I have ever played.

I will play a badass HSS Stratocaster over a Les Paul any day. Different strokes for different folks. Best to all.

David :rock:
Friedman's implementation of the Sat looses way to much too end. Practically worthless to my taste.

First off Scott I must say I enjoyed listening to the ToneNerd BE100 build you did. Very Smooth. It hit me where I live. :rock:

For anyone interested try using a 1uf in place of a .1uf on the CF DF style SAT. Mix up the PNP or NPN transistors as well. Much smoother IMO. Again not that I use it but individuals have reported a positive response.

Just as there are those of us that do not use the Friedman style CF SAT Clipper there are those that will not play without it. To that we can add a couple pro players as well.

Personally I prefer using a method of reducing power tube dissipation on a DPDT I refer to as the
V-Mod.

Below is an example (actual first development) of the V-Mod I created for a fellow member danburton

In fact I had the pleasure of working on six amps in the incredible collection of danburton

David
 
NewReligion":1c2sxcet said:
psychodave":1c2sxcet said:
scottosan":1c2sxcet said:
Zado":1c2sxcet said:
scottosan":1c2sxcet said:
The Yeti and KK are voiced very similar, the first video didn't sound like either to me. The Ceriatone stuff falls short in the power/NFB section. If you are going to copy a circuit, don't overlook one of the most critical parts of the design. But I guess, when the only parts of schematics that Nik copies from the internet are incomplete or incorrect, so you get 80%. Either of those amps could be modified to a more Cameron correct spec fairly easy.
Personal curiosity: what's inherently wrong in Ceriatone circuit? I mean sound wise. The mods I see here and there (but mostly here) are said to sound plain better, and more Cameron-like, but I'd like to understand a lil better what kind of objective improvements those mods deliver. Tighter? More djent metal articulation? More gain?
Cameron's designs in my opinion are the sum of all parts rather than a specific part of the circuit. Niks stuff copys alot of the physical topology, but uses alot traditional values for peaking cap/resistor values, tone stack slope resistor and treble cap values. He also uses generic depth/NFB values. Most of stuff as I've said before is made from incomplete or incorrect internet schematics and assumptions are made. Doing them partially is simply missing quite a bit. While Cameron s mods.a very much all 1 offs, there are signature component values that he like to use in most builds. B+ Voltage, transformer inductance and impedance all has an effect on the tone. It it in the power section and NFB, where you see the most tweaking to account for these differences. For example, the restistor.in line with the fixed or adjustable depth control will have a great affect on the brightness of the amp. Mark also has some trickery that he does with the depth control different than Nik as well as the type of caps used in this position will yield a more gritty tone. Nik rarely reverse engineers the amps. He barters parts for information and lurks some the DIY builder forums and let's others do the work.

Agreed.

When I modded my JCA20 Mark and I went over everything. It was clearly the sum of all parts. I did mods to every section of the amp. There were fine tuning of the power section when I got my desired sound out of the preamp section. Also, part selection is a massive part of the the magic. Not all caps sound the same.

One thing David said that I don’t agree with is clipping. To me, when done right, it sounds as good as an all tube circuit.

I agree the clippers sound as good, even great, just different. But given the choice most (95%) of the guys that want my work are after the analog tube tone. Much like Doug Rappoport told me, he too never uses the SAT switch on the Friedman SS/BE 100.

With the music I play the clippers are enjoyable but then I plug into an all tube 4 stage with CF and it sounds huge and smooth. Then I plug into a non CF 4 stage all tube and it is as good as it gets to my ear. It is just that the non CF does not clean up as well with the guitar volume pot.

Tone is in the ear of the beholder. This is what brings diversity. I prefer a certain 2011 Blue Face VH4 over most amps I have ever played.

I will play a badass HSS Stratocaster over a Les Paul any day. Different strokes for different folks. Best to all.

David :rock:

I was politely disagreeing. ;) I do love the sound of all tube circuit too. The Aldrich Mark did for me a long time ago sounds insane. Can get that crazy smooth tone withe lasting sustain. It would be killer if someone made an amp with two channels. One side Jose style and the other Aldrich style with each having their own depth and presence.
 
Has anyone modded a JCM 900 MKIII? Seems it has the foundation of Jose.
 
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