psychodave":1yad1adq said:
scottosan":1yad1adq said:
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scottosan":1yad1adq said:
The Yeti and KK are voiced very similar, the first video didn't sound like either to me. The Ceriatone stuff falls short in the power/NFB section. If you are going to copy a circuit, don't overlook one of the most critical parts of the design. But I guess, when the only parts of schematics that Nik copies from the internet are incomplete or incorrect, so you get 80%. Either of those amps could be modified to a more Cameron correct spec fairly easy.
Personal curiosity: what's inherently wrong in Ceriatone circuit? I mean sound wise. The mods I see here and there (but mostly here) are said to sound plain better, and more Cameron-like, but I'd like to understand a lil better what kind of objective improvements those mods deliver. Tighter? More djent metal articulation? More gain?
Cameron's designs in my opinion are the sum of all parts rather than a specific part of the circuit. Niks stuff copys alot of the physical topology, but uses alot traditional values for peaking cap/resistor values, tone stack slope resistor and treble cap values. He also uses generic depth/NFB values. Most of stuff as I've said before is made from incomplete or incorrect internet schematics and assumptions are made. Doing them partially is simply missing quite a bit. While Cameron s mods.a very much all 1 offs, there are signature component values that he like to use in most builds. B+ Voltage, transformer inductance and impedance all has an effect on the tone. It it in the power section and NFB, where you see the most tweaking to account for these differences. For example, the restistor.in line with the fixed or adjustable depth control will have a great affect on the brightness of the amp. Mark also has some trickery that he does with the depth control different than Nik as well as the type of caps used in this position will yield a more gritty tone. Nik rarely reverse engineers the amps. He barters parts for information and lurks some the DIY builder forums and let's others do the work.
Agreed.
When I modded my JCA20 Mark and I went over everything. It was clearly the sum of all parts. I did mods to every section of the amp. There were fine tuning of the power section when I got my desired sound out of the preamp section. Also, part selection is a massive part of the the magic. Not all caps sound the same.
One thing David said that I don’t agree with is clipping. To me, when done right, it sounds as good as an all tube circuit.
I agree the clippers sound as good, even great, just different. But given the choice most (95%) of the guys that want my work are after the analog tube tone. Much like Doug Rappoport told me, he too never uses the SAT switch on the Friedman SS/BE 100.
With the music I play the clippers are enjoyable but then I plug into an all tube 4 stage with CF and it sounds huge and smooth. Then I plug into a non CF 4 stage all tube and it is as good as it gets to my ear. It is just that the non CF does not clean up as well with the guitar volume pot.
Tone is in the ear of the beholder. This is what brings diversity. I prefer a certain 2011 Blue Face VH4 over most amps I have ever played.
I will play a badass HSS Stratocaster over a Les Paul any day. Different strokes for different folks. Best to all.
David