Friedman Mic-No-Mo

[Zado]

I haven't seen many (if any) discussions about this lil Palmer-like box, but where mentioned is highly praised.

Basically an analog no-load DI box that is placed between the amp and the cab and sends your signal straight to the FOH. Nothing unseen now, except it apparently is priced nicely (100 bucks here in Eu, less in the US) and sounds good, at least for the time it hit the market (around five years ago, which is a huge amount of time for this kind of device, but whatever).

Anyone rocking one like?

 

[romanianreaper]

I almost got one last year but don't need it now. My JJ Jr. basically had this built in and I got some killer recordings years ago just using the XLR out.

 

[Zado]

I almost got one last year but don't need it now. My JJ Jr. basically had this built in and I got some killer recordings years ago just using the XLR out.

AFAIK it really is a stand alone version of the JJ Jr. built in device. Glad to hear you like it, so it's still a good and viable option despite the IR technology improving so fast.

 

[romanianreaper]

AFAIK it really is a stand alone version of the JJ Jr. built in device. Glad to hear you like it, so it's still a good and viable option despite the IR technology improving so fast.

I think it is great for what it is and a simple alternative for sure.

 

[Geo]

It should have a line out.

 

[DanTravis62]

I don't own one, but i've used them before.

They sound quite good (especially live) and sound very good for the price point.

I don't know if I would use it for recording, but there have certainly been weirder combinations people have used to get unique sounds.

 

[tjnx]

I'd like to know from people who've actually used them but I've looked in to this vs the Palmer ILM ($130) and I think the Palmer sounds a little better. They both kind of have a scratchiness to them that could work just fine live.

Based on my experience with a loadbox + ir loader one speaker tone per mix / venue doesnt always sound the best so I prefer to have a lot of options just in case. That's my only hold up but the price is good.

 

[PiggySmallz]

Probably a dumb question but does this basically convert instrument level to line level and can you technically use it backwards to reamp?

 

[TheGreatGreen]

I haven’t used the Friedman one but I use a Suhr ACE all the time, which is basically the same thing but made by Suhr, emulating Suhr’s favorite Greenback 4x12 with a 3-band EQ built in, and I totally love the thing.

 

[jonasgreenemusic]

Cool. Has anyone heard its speaker sim?

 

[BABMusic]

I own one but so far, haven't been able to make it sound like a good tone. Considering letting it go, but didn't feel like a big loss considering it's so cheap. I remember even Dave recommended another product to me over his own, which I should have listened.

 

[Rackman]

Seems like an e906 would serve most would-be customers of this box very well.

 

[Dave L]

Probably a dumb question but does this basically convert instrument level to line level and can you technically use it backwards to reamp?

Nope, this goes between the amp and the cab. Just takes a tap off of the speaker signal that you can feed to your console/interface/mic preamp.

 

[PDC]

The closest thing to that back in the stone age was the Hughes and Kettner Red Box. It had a Speaker In / Out and sat between the amp and the cabinet. It converted the signal to a simulated line-level feed with a switch for 'Open Back' or 'Closed Back' cabinet sound. They also had an extra 1/4" input you could use if your amp had a Line Out or Loop. The 'Line Feed' and 'Cabinet Feed' each sounded just enough different that I used 2: one between my amp and cab and one using my amp's line out. That meant I Hogged up 2 whole channels at the board LOL. Our soundman loved those things - they did sound really good and they made the guitar super consistent.

 

[Zado]

I own one but so far, haven't been able to make it sound like a good tone. Considering letting it go, but didn't feel like a big loss considering it's so cheap. I remember even Dave recommended another product to me over his own, which I should have listened.

Do you recall what the other device was btw?

 

[Zado]

The closest thing to that back in the stone age was the Hughes and Kettner Red Box. It had a Speaker In / Out and sat between the amp and the cabinet. It converted the signal to a simulated line-level feed with a switch for 'Open Back' or 'Closed Back' cabinet sound. They also had an extra 1/4" input you could use if your amp had a Line Out or Loop. The 'Line Feed' and 'Cabinet Feed' each sounded just enough different that I used 2: one between my amp and cab and one using my amp's line out. That meant I Hogged up 2 whole channels at the board LOL. Our soundman loved those things - they did sound really good and they made the guitar super consistent.

I recall that lil box, it was game changin when it came out, and it's still very handy if you need that kind of device, but I don't think it'd be a first choice nowadays for the way it sounds. Not the model I've tried at least.

 

[PDC]

I recall that lil box, it was game changin when it came out, and it's still very handy if you need that kind of device, but I don't think it'd be a first choice nowadays for the way it sounds. Not the model I've tried at least.

100% Agree. Pushed the envelope back in the day - but far eclipsed by today's IRs for sure.

I would love to hear an A/B between a 4x12 and this new Friedman piece. I'm sure it sounds killer.

 

[BABMusic]

Do you recall what the other device was btw?

It was either the Suhr reactive load box or some kind of Fryette power station, maybe? I think he recommended both of those brands.

 

[Hamer95USA]

I use a Palmer PDI-09 guitar direct box. No longer made by Palmer, but you can find them used for a good price.

 

[Rackman]

I use a Palmer PDI-09 guitar direct box. No longer made by Palmer, but you can find them used for a good price.

Yeah the PDI-03 has this same functionality as well, plus a load resistor.

I used to think they were sort of a clever idea, but honestly a good mic and a piece of tape on the grille cloth seems superior. With a e609 or e906 (I prefer the e906 by a lot) you don't even need a stand.