Friedman Phil X vs Ceriatone AJ -Video

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Obviously not a thorough comparison. Just showing a basic back n forth. The AJ is more raw. X is more versatile. Which would you keep? And why?

 
The Ceriatone has some thickness going on ..... the Friedman sounds awesome but not as " girthy "

but a decent loop is super important ... to me anyway .... I need my BBD Delay in the loop for my leads ...

I wonder why the loop is shit in the Ceriatone ?? maybe it's not running the typical high voltage loop that the Friedmans have ...
 
griff10672 said:
The Ceriatone has some thickness going on ..... the Friedman sounds awesome but not as " girthy "

but a decent loop is super important ... to me anyway .... I need my BBD Delay in the loop for my leads ...

I wonder why the loop is shit in the Ceriatone ?? maybe it's not running the typical high voltage loop that the Friedmans have ...
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Think because it's a real 4 hole circuit, with a ppimv, it isn't post all the dirt like a JCM or Friedman. Def makes a difference in usability.
 
Possibly stupid question…did you EQ the amps to sound the same or each amp their best for you?
 
Ceriatone uses a basic passive insert loop. But I believe they can do a buffered loop as well. Maybe with a rack unit with input and output level control you could make it work but for pedals you’ll need a buffered loop to do anything meaningful.
 
skoora said:
Ceriatone uses a basic passive insert loop. But I believe they can do a buffered loop as well. Maybe with a rack unit with input and output level control you could make it work but for pedals you’ll need a buffered loop to do anything meaningful.
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This one has a buffered loop that you can turn on and off
 
I've always been interested in the Phil x but Friedman always has that polished tone I can't stand. I was hoping the phil x didnt have that but maybe im confusing this with the steve stevens. I want amps to be raw and aggressive.
 
Meanjoegreene said:
Possibly stupid question…did you EQ the amps to sound the same or each amp their best for you?
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I eqd the Friedman to sound close to the AJ. The AJ only sounds one way, really. The Friedman can sound totally different, heavier, bassier, more modern.
 
LPMojoGL said:
I eqd the Friedman to sound close to the AJ. The AJ only sounds one way, really. The Friedman can sound totally different, heavier, bassier, more modern.
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Gotcha

You tried best vs best settings for each ?
 
I can do without a loop, and the AJ sounds more raw with more girth, so I’m going AJ.
 
I caught a older Tone Talk podcast this morning ..... Dave was explaining that the Phil X is basically a one channel BE .... I didn't know that
 
griff10672 said:
I caught an older Tone Talk podcast this morning ..... Dave was explaining that the Phil X is basically a one channel BE .... I didn't know that
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That’s probably right. I’ve also heard it’s got higher plate voltage but not sure.
 
Tried a Phil X briefly one time and didn't care for it. I was expecting a more raw amp than a BE but it was still too polished. I'd go Ceriatone in this too. Gotta say, their JTM46 all access is on the radar after seeing their vid for it.
 
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