Fryette LXII - 1u rackmount 40w stereo/80 watt mono

[garey77]

FAS, as in fetal alcohol syndrome?

 

[RedB4Black]

Hifi audiophiles prefer tubes and want accurate, clear sounding poweramps... I don't really get why the Axe FX crowd is obsessed with solid state since they seem to want the same thing. It's a flavor of the month thing... Matrix will fall out of flavor as soon someone creates something new, maybe this Fryette will be what pushes them out of the limelight, who knows. Weird bunch over there on FAS...

I've owned a 2/50/2, 2/90/2, several Carvin SS amps (pre-Axe II current firmware version) and now the Matrix GT1000. I will say that have never liked the Axe more than with the current set up. That could be purely related to the advancement in the firmware. I am getting a 2/50/2 in the mail today as I got a nice price on a new one. If it sounds better than the Matrix then I'll be happy to use it. If not, I'm sending it back. I was planning to wait for the LXII, but weight is not an issue, and I got the 2/50 for alot less than what the LXII would cost me. The advantage of SS really comes down to weight and no tube maintenance. I don't think people are necessarily saying it is better than tubes, but it's close enough/as good so as to warrant going that rout due to the the lack of weight and no tube maintenance.

 

[hellaboogie]

seems full of win sauce to me

 

[Ventura]

Hifi audiophiles prefer tubes and want accurate, clear sounding poweramps... I don't really get why the Axe FX crowd is obsessed with solid state since they seem to want the same thing. It's a flavor of the month thing... Matrix will fall out of flavor as soon someone creates something new, maybe this Fryette will be what pushes them out of the limelight, who knows. Weird bunch over there on FAS...

I've owned a 2/50/2, 2/90/2, several Carvin SS amps (pre-Axe II current firmware version) and now the Matrix GT1000. I will say that have never liked the Axe more than with the current set up. That could be purely related to the advancement in the firmware. I am getting a 2/50/2 in the mail today as I got a nice price on a new one. If it sounds better than the Matrix then I'll be happy to use it. If not, I'm sending it back. I was planning to wait for the LXII, but weight is not an issue, and I got the 2/50 for alot less than what the LXII would cost me. The advantage of SS really comes down to weight and no tube maintenance. I don't think people are necessarily saying it is better than tubes, but it's close enough/as good so as to warrant going that rout due to the the lack of weight and no tube maintenance.

I believe I'm not the only person here who'll be very interested to hear what you have to say about the comparo - knowing that it's not a matter of weight versus this versus that. Just a straight up tonal toe-to-toe.

Please keep us posted - inquiring minds want to know...

And as for the LXII, honestly, I'm in no rush as I own a 2/90/2 and I just can't see there being any reason to bitch slap that unit outta my rig just because the latest and greatest is thinner and lighter. It's not like a girlfriend situation, it's gear.

 

[RedB4Black]

Hifi audiophiles prefer tubes and want accurate, clear sounding poweramps... I don't really get why the Axe FX crowd is obsessed with solid state since they seem to want the same thing. It's a flavor of the month thing... Matrix will fall out of flavor as soon someone creates something new, maybe this Fryette will be what pushes them out of the limelight, who knows. Weird bunch over there on FAS...

I've owned a 2/50/2, 2/90/2, several Carvin SS amps (pre-Axe II current firmware version) and now the Matrix GT1000. I will say that have never liked the Axe more than with the current set up. That could be purely related to the advancement in the firmware. I am getting a 2/50/2 in the mail today as I got a nice price on a new one. If it sounds better than the Matrix then I'll be happy to use it. If not, I'm sending it back. I was planning to wait for the LXII, but weight is not an issue, and I got the 2/50 for alot less than what the LXII would cost me. The advantage of SS really comes down to weight and no tube maintenance. I don't think people are necessarily saying it is better than tubes, but it's close enough/as good so as to warrant going that rout due to the the lack of weight and no tube maintenance.

I believe I'm not the only person here who'll be very interested to hear what you have to say about the comparo - knowing that it's not a matter of weight versus this versus that. Just a straight up tonal toe-to-toe.

Please keep us posted - inquiring minds want to know...

And as for the LXII, honestly, I'm in no rush as I own a 2/90/2 and I just can't see there being any reason to bitch slap that unit outta my rig just because the latest and greatest is thinner and lighter. It's not like a girlfriend situation, it's gear.

I got the 2/50/2 late last night (UPS didn't deliver until about 8:00pm ), so I didn't get much time to play. I will say that I first plugged in the Matrix and used my favorite patch using the Herbert model. It sounded really good. It was a tone that I'd been really happy with for awhile. I then switched to the Fryette without changing anything on the Axe and it sounded alot better. I put the presence on the Fryette at around 9:00 and the depth was slightly to the left of noon. This weekend, I'll mess with the Axe/Matrix a bit to see if I can get it closer to the Axe/Fryette I was hearing last night. I had been thinking about getting the Matrix passive cabs (or the new atomics) to try FRFR, but I'm not convinced that could ever sound as good as using a tube poweramp through cabs....at least to me.

 

[Ventura]

I got the 2/50/2 late last night (UPS didn't deliver until about 8:00pm ), so I didn't get much time to play. I will say that I first plugged in the Matrix and used my favorite patch using the Herbert model. It sounded really good. It was a tone that I'd been really happy with for awhile. I then switched to the Fryette without changing anything on the Axe and it sounded alot better. I put the presence on the Fryette at around 9:00 and the depth was slightly to the left of noon. This weekend, I'll mess with the Axe/Matrix a bit to see if I can get it closer to the Axe/Fryette I was hearing last night. I had been thinking about getting the Matrix passive cabs (or the new atomics) to try FRFR, but I'm not convinced that could ever sound as good as using a tube poweramp through cabs....at least to me.

Sweet. So you're still running through standard cabs too, eh? Interesting. Well, keep me/us posted as to what you come up with sound wise. I'm very interested to know.

Secondly, there's a lot of chitter-chatter about the new atomic FRFR monitors, but I see their website hasn't be updated in, um, a long f'n time. Rumors they were going under have also been out and about - what's the deal with 'em?? Where's everyone getting their 411 on these pending new cabs??

Peace,
Mojo

 

[moltenmetalburn]

I'd spent some time communicating with Fryette yesterday, and it's really interesting to get their perspective of this whole "if you have a digital modeler, you best be getting a solid state amp" yada yada yada. Basically, the Axe-FX religion has its disciples frowning upon anything "tube". So this is where the need for matrix and a host of other SS poweramps was fostered. But is it truly factual and warranted? Steve definitely thinks not - and it's not because of the business he's in... He knows the science of sound, period. And as he has said "go ahead and try the SS brands out, and then try ours out - any of ours - whether it's the LX, the 50, or the 90. More than likely you'll find it simply responds better and sounds better".

I have to agree.

Check these out if you really want to get into it. Steve explains the nature of amplified sound and the intricacies of modelers with amps and speakers. I do find it kinda funny how there's a definite lack of enthusiasm for anything Fractal, but he remains polite and respectful.

It's all about current feedback mo, the reason I can only use a the power amp with my axe fx 2. The feel and harmonic response is different.

Current feedback is a small voltage which is proportional to the amount of current flowing through the loudspeaker, whereas voltage feedback is a small voltage which is proportional to the voltage generated over the speaker. Approximately the same amount of current flows through the speaker whether or not the sensing resistor is present. A small voltage develops across the current sensing resistor, and this voltage is the basis of the current feedback signal.

Why does current feedback promote lower speaker damping? The reason is fairly intuitive. Lower damping occurs because when the speaker wants to dump flyback current back through the amp, that current flows through the current sensing resistor, and it is opposite in polarity to the current which put the speaker in the position from which it is returning. For instance if we put a positive voltage on the speaker causing the cone displace, then when the speaker's suspension wants to return the cone, the voice coil wants to generate a negative flyback voltage. This voltage generates current in the current-sensing resistor, which turns it into current feedback that is subtracted from the input! But subtracting a negative means adding! If something is added to the input, the output voltage rises, fighting the speaker's flyback voltage! The speaker "sees" this as a high(er) impedance, which causes it to be less able to work off energy electrically.

Why does current feedback promote a "mid scooped" frequency response?

The speaker already has a "mid scooped" impedance curve. It has a high impedance at speaker resonance (typically somewhere between 70 Hz and 100 Hz for a guitar speaker). It also has a rising impedance with increasing frequency because it contains an inductor (the voice coil). Inductors impede the flow of alternating current: the higher the frequency, the greater the impedance. Now, speaker impedance reduces the current that flows through it, resulting in a smaller amount of negative current feedback. Less negative feedback of any kind translates to more gain. So the amplifier adds gain in proportion to the speaker's impedance, emphasizing the resonant frequency, and treble frequencies.

 

[stephen sawall]

Interesting post...

 

[gtr31]

I'd spent some time communicating with Fryette yesterday, and it's really interesting to get their perspective of this whole "if you have a digital modeler, you best be getting a solid state amp" yada yada yada. Basically, the Axe-FX religion has its disciples frowning upon anything "tube". So this is where the need for matrix and a host of other SS poweramps was fostered. But is it truly factual and warranted? Steve definitely thinks not - and it's not because of the business he's in... He knows the science of sound, period. And as he has said "go ahead and try the SS brands out, and then try ours out - any of ours - whether it's the LX, the 50, or the 90. More than likely you'll find it simply responds better and sounds better".

I have to agree.

Check these out if you really want to get into it. Steve explains the nature of amplified sound and the intricacies of modelers with amps and speakers. I do find it kinda funny how there's a definite lack of enthusiasm for anything Fractal, but he remains polite and respectful.

It's all about current feedback mo, the reason I can only use a the power amp with my axe fx 2. The feel and harmonic response is different.

Current feedback is a small voltage which is proportional to the amount of current flowing through the loudspeaker, whereas voltage feedback is a small voltage which is proportional to the voltage generated over the speaker. Approximately the same amount of current flows through the speaker whether or not the sensing resistor is present. A small voltage develops across the current sensing resistor, and this voltage is the basis of the current feedback signal.

Why does current feedback promote lower speaker damping? The reason is fairly intuitive. Lower damping occurs because when the speaker wants to dump flyback current back through the amp, that current flows through the current sensing resistor, and it is opposite in polarity to the current which put the speaker in the position from which it is returning. For instance if we put a positive voltage on the speaker causing the cone displace, then when the speaker's suspension wants to return the cone, the voice coil wants to generate a negative flyback voltage. This voltage generates current in the current-sensing resistor, which turns it into current feedback that is subtracted from the input! But subtracting a negative means adding! If something is added to the input, the output voltage rises, fighting the speaker's flyback voltage! The speaker "sees" this as a high(er) impedance, which causes it to be less able to work off energy electrically.

Why does current feedback promote a "mid scooped" frequency response?

The speaker already has a "mid scooped" impedance curve. It has a high impedance at speaker resonance (typically somewhere between 70 Hz and 100 Hz for a guitar speaker). It also has a rising impedance with increasing frequency because it contains an inductor (the voice coil). Inductors impede the flow of alternating current: the higher the frequency, the greater the impedance. Now, speaker impedance reduces the current that flows through it, resulting in a smaller amount of negative current feedback. Less negative feedback of any kind translates to more gain. So the amplifier adds gain in proportion to the speaker's impedance, emphasizing the resonant frequency, and treble frequencies.

I have no idea what he is saying, or if he is comparing tube to SS power sections ..Is this SMF responses

 

[stephen sawall]

The 2nd video Fryette talks in detail about the tube / SS thing if you are interested.

 

[IntenseJim]

Called Fryette today and left a message. They called back in 1 hour . IMPRESSIVE!
They said this won't be out for a while.color]

 

[dirtyfunkg]

Necro bump. Any word on this?

 

[stephen sawall]

Necro bump. Any word on this?

A few weeks back they said it was done ... just not in production yet ...

 

[Shark Diver]

Necro bump. Any word on this?

A few weeks back they said it was done ... just not in production yet ...

Anyone know the price point?

Would be interesting to hear this with the Two-Notes, Kemper and Fractal stuff into a passive CLR.

 

[stephen sawall]

Necro bump. Any word on this?

A few weeks back they said it was done ... just not in production yet ...

Anyone know the price point?

Would be interesting to hear this with the Two-Notes, Kemper and Fractal stuff into a passive CLR.

There is not one at this time.

 

[Shark Diver]

Necro bump. Any word on this?

A few weeks back they said it was done ... just not in production yet ...

Anyone know the price point?

Would be interesting to hear this with the Two-Notes, Kemper and Fractal stuff into a passive CLR.

There is not one at this time.

Hopefully in the Matrix range. Love all my VHT stuff, so hoping this will be a nice alternative to the SS amps.

 

[NinjaRaf]

This will sell like crazy, coz all the guys who gotten a Mak4, they have no space left in their racks -they were really waiting for this!

This. I woulda killed to have a single space tube power amp with this wattage while I had the mak4. And Ill likely get one of these when I get another mak4.

 

[polaris20]

I would SERIOUSLY consider one of these and a POD HD Pro for a secondary setup. It sounds awesome with the HD Pro.

 

[MerlynMetal]

Any updates on this one? I've seen Steve releasing several other products since this was announced.

 

[Kelly]

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