G major VH4 Question

[nat120]

I have been working on getting my VH4 and Gmajor programmed. I wanted to know if the channels on the VH4 1, 2, 3, 4 are suppose to match the presets on the Gmajor 1, 2, 3, 4 (user) ect? That is the way mine is working.


Also I have the Ground Control Pro Midi pedal and It stated in the manual that you need to program your preamp (VH4) to a channel and your effects processor to a channel. The directions sucked. It said that channel 1 is already set up for a preamp. I put the name "Diezel V" for channel one. On channel two I put "TCelectronic" and the number 2. That was all that the manual explained to do. Will the pedal recognize the Gmajor just by putting a name and numer in?

 

[i.ak]

Don't worry all is going to be fine. The VH4 is perhaps the easiest MIDI device to program (except changing the MIDI-receive channel without the manual ) and the G-Major is not that difficult either.

I do not own G-Major anymore, but it is not longer than three weeks when I programmed my Ground Control Pro-GCX-VH4-Lexicon MPX G2-MIDI Volume Control-Whammy combination. It took about four hours in total, including cable work within the bloody case.

1st check which MIDI channel (1-16 or Omni/all) your VH4 and G-Major is programmed to receive. For VH4 please refer to its manual and for G-Major you should be able to see it somewhere in its menus/options/setups (refer to G-Major's manual if you can't find it in the menus).

2. Set VH4 to receive a certain MIDI channel (refer to the table in the manual) - i.e. Ch1. It does not matter as long as you remember which channel it is. Also, in order that you will be able to control all of your MIDI equipment individually I recommend not to utilize one single channel (1-16) more than once.

3. Set the Ground Control Pro to send MIDI messages to the VH4 in that channel by:
- enter into setup mode (pres both setup buttons)
- press the button under which is stated "device" (number 2 if I recall correctly)
# All in all, you may set the GCP to control 8 different MIDI devices - Now we are talking about ONLY MIDI devices, do not worry about relay controlled devices or stompboxes, etc.#
- See the GCP's manual page 7 and follow the instructions.
- Now there should read: 1. VH4 /01 (*the channel must be the very same that you set your VH4 to receive)

4. Exit setup mode and select the preset you wish to program. i.e. preset number 1. Hold the EDIT button and set the GCP to send a MIDI message for device one (=VH4). You should read something like "VH4 - 01". Press down arrow until you reach the preset naming "window"...name your preset e.g. "Clean" or something. Exit preset edit mode and save the changes.

5. Try the preset change by pressing preset number 2 or 6 or 9 or what ever and then changing back to preset number 1.

6. Now set your VH4 to the channel you want it to recall when you press the preset number 1. For example to set your preset 1. to be channel 1 in VH4: Press the preset one in GCP...select Ch1 in VH4...press store twice. For VH4 ch2 in preset 2.: Press the preset 2. in GCP...select Ch2 in VH4 and press store twice. Got it?
Also the programmable send 2 and channel inserts are set the same way.

7. Repeat steps number 2, 3 and 4, but this time for G-Major.
- set the G-Major to receive e.g. MIDI channel 2. (refer G-Major's manual) -- STEP 2
- go to the GCP's setup/device and name the second device (press the down arrow) as 2. G-Major /02 (*the channel you set the G-Major to receive). -- STEP 3
- select the preset (i.e. 1.) and edit it -- STEP 4
# please note that you can set the GCP to send a MIDI program message (1-128) for all of the individual equipment, thus you do not necessarily need to re-arrange your G-Major banks. The editing happens in realtime thus try (alter the values) and watch what happens in the equipment.#

8. Do the same for all other channels and presets and your done.

Questions?
Difficulties?

If you face challenges with programming the G-Major Im sure there is people more qualified than me to guide you through, but if any doubts please ask. Im sure I can help you too even though I do not have the G-Major anymore (still I am sure it is much more easier than the Lexicon and still it turned out just perfect).


If someone disagrees with my instructions and/or statements above please feel free to present Your opinion. However at least my equipment is working perfectly like this.

I apologize if I forgot something.


All the best to You all

 

[RedB4Black]

I don't have a G-Major but I have a Rocktron Xpression so I imagine it works the same way. I used to use a GCP but now I use the Diezel Columbus with my Herbert.

It is pretty easy to set up/use the GCP/G-major, however, the instructions can be confusing. I banged my head against the wall a few times trying to figure it out. Looking back I realize it truely is pretty easy - so do stress out about it.

If the only MIDI devices you are using are the Diezel and the G-Major, just set both of them to receive commands in OMNI mode (all 16 channels) - then it doesn't matter how you set up the GCP to send commands since the Diezel only takes program changes each patch on your GCP will be used independently. Say you want button 7 to be Channel 2 with chorus (or loop active with the G-major set to a chorus patch). You have to have another button, say button 8, to be Channel 2 without chorus (or loop inactive).

The first thing you should do is set all of you buttons up for what channels/amp parameters you want linked to those buttons. That should be pretty easy but you basically push a button (say button 6) on your GCP, set the amp you way you want it and then press store. Whenever you push button 6 on the GCP, the amp will revert to those settings (say Channel 3 with Loop engaged). Now say you have patch 27 on your G-major that is basically a reverb/chorus patch that you want to be running in your signal whenever you push button 6 on your GCP. Go into the MIDI Mapping feature of the G-major and map button 6 on the GCP to patch 27 on the G-major. Note that G-Major is where the mapping to patches should occur - not the GCP. Make sure that if the G-Major requires you to turn on the option to accept MIDI commands you turn it on. Otherwise nothing will happen on the G-major.

Now whenever you press button 6 on the GCP, the amp will switch to channel 3, the loop will be engaged and the g-major will switch to patch 27 and you will have chorus/reverb added to your signal. That's pretty much it.

Matt

EDIT - looks like i.ak an I were typing at the same time. You should have enough info to take care of it.

 

[scottph]

If I may hijack for a minute:

Matt, how dou you like the Xpression? I haven't tried it yet, but I'm hearing that it doesn't color the tone of the Herbert as much as a G-Major. Any thoughts on that?

 

[RedB4Black]

If I may hijack for a minute:

Matt, how dou you like the Xpression? I haven't tried it yet, but I'm hearing that it doesn't color the tone of the Herbert as much as a G-Major. Any thoughts on that?

I like it alot. I actually own 2 of them. One for the Herbert and one for my ENGL SE. I run it through the switchable loop so my signal doesn't go through it if I'm not using it. I did try it on my Einstein and tried the by-pass on the Rocktron and it was pretty good. I didn't notice any tone coloration while it was in by-pass.

I haven't tried a G-major. I went with Rocktron over the G-major for 3 reasons (1) better build quality, (2) cheaper (I bought one for $150 and the other for $175) and (3) ease of use. I had a TC G-sharp too and I though the effects on the Rocktron were better than that. I'm not sure if the G-sharp has the same effects quality as the g-major.

Matt

 

[scottph]

Thanks for the answer man!

Do you have any soundsamples of the effects you use the Xpression for w/ the Herbert?

 

[nat120]

If I was also going to use my wah, should I run it through the Gmajor or in front of the amp?

Also what do you think about the tunner on the Gmajor?

 

[RedB4Black]

Thanks for the answer man!

Do you have any soundsamples of the effects you use the Xpression for w/ the Herbert?

Sorry. I don't have any gear to record with. I spend all my money on amps/guitars.

 

[RedB4Black]

If I was also going to use my wah, should I run it through the Gmajor or in front of the amp?

Also what do you think about the tunner on the Gmajor?

I'd run it infront of the amp. Just get one that is true by-pass. I plan to buy an RMC Wizard Wah