Good mic for vocals?

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I know SM57 and e609 are standard/good mics to record cabs with, but I need the equivalent for vocals. The kinda stuff I'll be recording is standard cookie-monster vocals, similar to In Flames or other screaming. Any suggestions?
 
The Shure SM7B is pretty much a staple for that kind of stuff and vocals in general. Great mic and you can't go wrong unless your preamp doesn't have enough gain.
 
if your talking about recording, then a good condenser and preamp is where you want to go. the cad 1000 has had some good reviews, any of the Rode mics will do well, and there is my personal favorite, the ADK A51
 
Duke of Metal":2jfjjba2 said:
Cant go wrong with a Shure 58 mic.


Take it from somneone who is paid as a professional sound engineer...you can go very wrong with a Shure SM58. It's never my first choice, and I'll only rarely use it if it's in the tech rider and the artist insists. An SM58 is like McDonald's...it's consistent and predictable and you can find one anywhere, but that doesn't make it good.

Shure SM58's and loud stage volume = a monitor engineer's nightmare unless your using all IEM's. The SM58 invented monitor feedback.

I don't know if I can be much help for "cookie monster" vocals since my experience is with actual singers, but I'd take a Sennheiser E835 (or better) or an Audix OM5 (or better) as my first choices for live work in most cases. There is no "best mic" because each voice is different, but those 2 mics are a good starting point in the reasonably priced mic category.

I prefer a Neuman KMS105 (or Shure's version, the KSM9) for live condensers, but I wouldn't waste either of those mics on anything but a great singer.
 
Odin":2ytrzjsj said:
Duke of Metal":2ytrzjsj said:
Cant go wrong with a Shure 58 mic.


Take it from somneone who is paid as a professional sound engineer...you can go very wrong with a Shure SM58. It's never my first choice, and I'll only rarely use it if it's in the tech rider and the artist insists. An SM58 is like McDonald's...it's consistent and predictable and you can find one anywhere, but that doesn't make it good.

Shure SM58's and loud stage volume = a monitor engineer's nightmare unless your using all IEM's. The SM58 invented monitor feedback.

I don't know if I can be much help for "cookie monster" vocals since my experience is with actual singers, but I'd take a Sennheiser E835 (or better) or an Audix OM5 (or better) as my first choices for live work in most cases. There is no "best mic" because each voice is different, but those 2 mics are a good starting point in the reasonably priced mic category.

I prefer a Neuman KMS105 (or Shure's version, the KSM9) for live condensers, but I wouldn't waste either of those mics on anything but a great singer.

wouldn't you think, if someone is referring to a 57, a 58 or a 609, a neuman is a bit out of reach from a price standpoint.
its a great mic, but a g is a g
 
Thanks for all the insight guys, I just gotta pick out the right one. I'll be running it through a Tascam US-122 Audio/Midi device and then into my computer. Me and a buddy of mine have some good recording programs, protools and reason :thumbsup:
 
Tnjpekar":11n58wav said:
Odin":11n58wav said:
Duke of Metal":11n58wav said:
Cant go wrong with a Shure 58 mic.


Take it from somneone who is paid as a professional sound engineer...you can go very wrong with a Shure SM58. It's never my first choice, and I'll only rarely use it if it's in the tech rider and the artist insists. An SM58 is like McDonald's...it's consistent and predictable and you can find one anywhere, but that doesn't make it good.

Shure SM58's and loud stage volume = a monitor engineer's nightmare unless your using all IEM's. The SM58 invented monitor feedback.

I don't know if I can be much help for "cookie monster" vocals since my experience is with actual singers, but I'd take a Sennheiser E835 (or better) or an Audix OM5 (or better) as my first choices for live work in most cases. There is no "best mic" because each voice is different, but those 2 mics are a good starting point in the reasonably priced mic category.

I prefer a Neuman KMS105 (or Shure's version, the KSM9) for live condensers, but I wouldn't waste either of those mics on anything but a great singer.

wouldn't you think, if someone is referring to a 57, a 58 or a 609, a neuman is a bit out of reach from a price standpoint.
its a great mic, but a g is a g


That's why I suggested a Sennheiser E835 or an Audix OM5. Both are easily found for under $200 and both sound far superior to a SM58 most of the time, and both will reject feedback when used live much better than a SM58 (especially the OM5).

Also, you can get a new neuman KMS105 for $650 (not cheap, but not close to $1K).
 
Take it from somneone who is paid as a professional sound engineer...you can go very wrong with a Shure SM58. It's never my first choice, and I'll only rarely use it if it's in the tech rider and the artist insists. An SM58 is like McDonald's...it's consistent and predictable and you can find one anywhere, but that doesn't make it good.

Shure SM58's and loud stage volume = a monitor engineer's nightmare unless your using all IEM's. The SM58 invented monitor feedback.

I don't know if I can be much help for "cookie monster" vocals since my experience is with actual singers, but I'd take a Sennheiser E835 (or better) or an Audix OM5 (or better) as my first choices for live work in most cases. There is no "best mic" because each voice is different, but those 2 mics are a good starting point in the reasonably priced mic category.

I prefer a Neuman KMS105 (or Shure's version, the KSM9) for live condensers, but I wouldn't waste either of those mics on anything but a great singer.[/quote]

wouldn't you think, if someone is referring to a 57, a 58 or a 609, a neuman is a bit out of reach from a price standpoint.
its a great mic, but a g is a g[/quote]


That's why I suggested a Sennheiser E835 or an Audix OM5. Both are easily found for under $200 and both sound far superior to a SM58 most of the time, and both will reject feedback when used live much better than a SM58 (especially the OM5).

Also, you can get a new neuman KMS105 for $650 (not cheap, but not close to $1K).[/quote]
Didn't realize the other two came in so cheap
but the neuman at 650?
link me baby :rock:
 
Tnjpekar":3czfl4b6 said:
Didn't realize the other two came in so cheap
but the neuman at 650?
link me baby :rock:


In stock, ships today.

http://www.zzounds.com/item--NEUKMS105MT

Be careful with the KMS105 on a loud stage, condensers are picky. And this mic will show every nuance of your vocals, so unless you're spot on with your vocals you might not like it. ;) But damn does it sound good with a great singer.
 
Odin":2u4nazod said:
Duke of Metal":2u4nazod said:
Cant go wrong with a Shure 58 mic.


Take it from somneone who is paid as a professional sound engineer...you can go very wrong with a Shure SM58. It's never my first choice, and I'll only rarely use it if it's in the tech rider and the artist insists. An SM58 is like McDonald's...it's consistent and predictable and you can find one anywhere, but that doesn't make it good.

Shure SM58's and loud stage volume = a monitor engineer's nightmare unless your using all IEM's. The SM58 invented monitor feedback.

I don't know if I can be much help for "cookie monster" vocals since my experience is with actual singers, but I'd take a Sennheiser E835 (or better) or an Audix OM5 (or better) as my first choices for live work in most cases. There is no "best mic" because each voice is different, but those 2 mics are a good starting point in the reasonably priced mic category.

I prefer a Neuman KMS105 (or Shure's version, the KSM9) for live condensers, but I wouldn't waste either of those mics on anything but a great singer.
Thanks for the info.. see, thats why there is people like you who know this stuff to tell the rest of us who dont know about stuff like this. :D :thumbsup:
 
Odin":3r15tf5q said:
Duke of Metal":3r15tf5q said:
Cant go wrong with a Shure 58 mic.


Take it from somneone who is paid as a professional sound engineer...you can go very wrong with a Shure SM58. It's never my first choice, and I'll only rarely use it if it's in the tech rider and the artist insists. An SM58 is like McDonald's...it's consistent and predictable and you can find one anywhere, but that doesn't make it good.

Shure SM58's and loud stage volume = a monitor engineer's nightmare unless your using all IEM's. The SM58 invented monitor feedback.

I don't know if I can be much help for "cookie monster" vocals since my experience is with actual singers, but I'd take a Sennheiser E835 (or better) or an Audix OM5 (or better) as my first choices for live work in most cases. There is no "best mic" because each voice is different, but those 2 mics are a good starting point in the reasonably priced mic category.

I prefer a Neuman KMS105 (or Shure's version, the KSM9) for live condensers, but I wouldn't waste either of those mics on anything but a great singer.

I agree. I use a Neuman U87 most of the time but a 58 will do just fine. I also have a Shure KSM44 but don't really use it as much. It's been relegated to mic'ing cabs.
 
So many suggestions and I don't know where to start :aww: I'll never be able to afford those Neumans though
 
For studio work your choices are many...you can use a condenser with good results, or just grab a SM58 and see how it sounds. Getting a good sound in the studio is less about the equipment you use and more about the guy behind the controls.

For live work the correct mics are everything. If you have a loud band then you really have to choose your mic carefully. And live there is nothing more important than good vocal mic technique for a singer. Learn and use correct mic technique and learn to how place and properly EQ/ring out your monitors and you will be a much happier singer (and sound better out front as well).

Good luck, it's hard to "try out" mics because stores won't take them back and people tend to not lend them out much.
 
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