Great Billboard EVH cover story

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ironically - ive gained more respect for sammy out of all this! lol
 
I believe every word Sammy said is the truth!

What's wrong with EVH?
There is no live performance and no live performed sons he played without a mistake. But he thinks he's perfect?! But he told us his excuses for that in the billboard interview.

He's a jerk!

Damn....I'm so angry! I'm a huge EVH fan and he acts like Paris Hilton!
 
The EVH that got me into guitar and inspired me to play 12 hours a day died a long,long time ago :(
I have no idea of who this imposter is? :no:
 
charvelstrat81":2lvnzqyl said:
The EVH that got me into guitar and inspired me to play 12 hours a day died a long,long time ago :(
I have no idea of who this imposter is? :no:

my sentiments exactly.......it's fucking totally depressing

this guy is worth 80 milion+

he has everything anyone could ever want
he revolutionized the electric guitar,he has a hot younger wife,
a nice family,
endless career success doing exactly what he wants,
he regained his health which is priceless,
he owns his own amp/guitar line etc etc

and yet after all of this he turned into a CRANKY OLD DISTURBED CUNT

I can see how DLR and EVH are polar opposites,but no matter what ...the fact remains that DLR was the ultimate salesman for ed and alex's product.

Is DLR supposed to stop acting like he is 18?
Fuck NO!

DLR is eternally 18 and that will never change.

It's never gonna happen,Roth is Peter pan embodied as he should be.

Roth is Hugh Hefner as a song and dance man....

He is the eternal class clown,goof ball ladies man,a man for all seasons,martial artist,sniper expert,dog trainer/aficionado,world traveler,art collector,dancer,fast talker,well read gutter intellectual and miles ahead of EVH and his reclusive sequestered bitter genius trip.

When all of this is over Roth goes back into the arms of his japanese hottie harem at his tokyo penthouse,releases the 3-4 albums he has saved up [a few of which will kick total ass]
and then explores some other obtuse interest until he masters it and carries on being a true artist in every sense of the word.

Is Roth not supposed to be into dance music?
ummm rock and roll and r&b are dance music !

Hey Ed-remember Jamie's crying,dance the night away,so this is love,hot for teacher?
those are dance songs dude.

Ed hates big bad william?
I was listening to that the other day as well as dancing in the streets in the car thinking that shit is classic ,no one hard rock band from that era could have pulled off either of those tunes with such style......and it shows how diverse and accomplished VH could be back in the day ,not to mention how much fun and humor they naturally injected into the music.

Ed hates Ted Templeman?
If it wasn't for Ted there might not have been a record deal with Warner Brothers and the 6 pack which Ed has been unable to best production wise.

Oh and not to mention that Ted brought Don Landee into the mix who taught ed everything he knows about production.



10 years from now what is left of the dude formerly known as Eddie Van Halen will still be slagging Mikey and Spammy playing the same fucking guitar solo since 1984 while idiots line up to pay 500 dollars a ticket to see it
meh
that cunt is cooked,fork em'
 
There is a big difference between showing someone a part you want them to play instead of what they normally play or a part for a new song and having them videotape you prior to a tour so they can relearn parts that they've been playing since before the band was signed. The implication from Ed in that interview was that MA was too stupid or musically inept to remember bass parts prior to a tour and that is bullshit.

MA talks about EVH trying to show him parts before the '04 disaster tour, when he was already playing the correct, original parts. Said it drove him crazy. Hagar alludes to that in the video link I posted above as well...

Steve
 
sah5150":mvoxus73 said:
Steinmetzify":mvoxus73 said:
I don't know anything about MA. Is it that far fetched?
Hagar posted this today. He was in the band for 11 years:

https://www.facebook.com/SammyHagar/videos/625127390857073/

Steve

Sammy just got a bit cooler in my eyes. I can see maybe why the VH my have butted heads with Hagar who is a strong hard headed personality but to go after Mike who is not at all and good bass player is a huge dick move. I agree with Sammy..... fuck you Ed!
 
jabps":3fxluiax said:
Steinmetzify":3fxluiax said:
Jesus what the hell did he say about Randy dying?!
Ed wasn't exactly gracious towards Rhoads after his death. From what I remember before Rhoads died, Ed basically stated something to the effect that "at least Rhoads was honest in how he copied me"," everything he learned, he learned from me"...something of that nature.

It's actually when EVH showed little sympathy for Randy after he died that you could see Ed had some issue's...and anyone that was around then...Ed, Sammy and Al bashed Roth to death after he first left VH. The quote at the time is VH used to be a VW, now it's a Porsch or Ferrari with Hagar type comments.

Ed and Al bashed Dave and all the original music when Dave left, bashed Sammy when he left, bashed Dave again after the MTV/Reunion fiasco (which was the perfect time to reform the original band...everybody was going crazy for it), bashed Mike, even tried to replace Mike with Sheehan all the way back in 1980, and now is beginning to bash Gary.

Pretty clear pattern here.

The one that sticks in my mind was in an issue of a guitar magazine dedicated to memorializing Randy, shortly after his death. So they went to a bunch of the name players of the day for quotes and remembrances. Standard stuff, all complimentary and laudatory, pretty much what you expect. And then they go to Ed. One line..."He did me to the bone, God rest his soul".

In the midst of all that, he could still only say that Randy copied him.
 
jabps":2j09qcxk said:
I would think even Friedman would realize the difference in teaching someone a "part" as opposed to how to play instrument.

The best bass player I've ever played with...I had to show him certain parts because it's what I wanted for the song but he could play me and most everybody in Nashville under the table.

This! When I was in bands with my brother who is a bass player first and guitarist second... he was a big part of the riff writing and would do so mostly on guitar. He had to show me stuff all the time and he would tell you I was the better guitar player. All this shit coming out Ed's mouth with inventing waxing pots, can't afford a distortion pedal but can afford a variac, Mike sucks as a bass player etc. Hes turned into a publicist nightmare for his wife who handles all that. I think he's fucked up his brain with all the booze, drugs, isolation, and fame
 
sah5150":2t2bar0y said:
romanianreaper":2t2bar0y said:
I respect Ed for being honest and I really don't think he means to be an asshole. There are some people that just can't communicate as well as others and put their foot in their mouths all the time. Nikki Sixx does it constantly. Kevin Debrow, etc., etc. Most of the time these guys back peddle and say "I didn't really mean that", etc.

Not excusing the guy but I think famous people are in the spotlight for so long that they lose touch with reality and say things they really shouldn't.
So you respect him for being honest? Really? So you believe this gem about Michael Anthony?:

“Before we’d go on tour, he’d come over with a video camera and I’d have to show him how to play all the parts.”

Steve

I do believe it Steve but like anything, it is all about the context and how it is being portrayed. I'm sure back then, he probably showed him some parts but knowing how nice Mike is, he probably said "hey, I was going to come over to the house and maybe you can show me some great lines to play over your parts". With Ed being a full blown alcoholic all those years ago, his memory is definitely blurred. Because he is ass-burnt about Mike picking Sam over VH, I'm sure he is adding a bit of drama to it.

I do believe the part about DLR though. You can tell that Dave has become something different than the rocker we remember him as. I'm sure DLR doesn't want to be friends with him.

So tough to read that stuff but I'm sure all of us will always be EVH fans. :) - Mike
 
EVH is the polar opposite of great people that usually express a position of standing around their success by standing on the backs of other great people(giants). For him, it is about slamming them.. Sorry no good. The day I knew he was a jackass was when he made that comment about Jimmy Page playing like he had broken fingers...a complete tool and maybe instead of complaining about Cherone he should go back and look at him onstage with that Ronald McDonald stage attire and realize it was something happening in that time frame.

Some journalist should tease him and ask what he thinks about Eric Clapton.
 
mdc1mdc11":z081g8mx said:
Some journalist should tease him and ask what he thinks about Eric Clapton.

they have - he generally has very complimentary to say about early clapton (one of the only musicians that seems to be able to make that claim), though says he wasn't really into his solo stuff. even the latter though doesn't seem to receive the harsh language that others (including his own bandmates do).

best i can tell is Clapton (and actually Holdsworth) seems to be one of the few that eddie respects
 
shock horror eddie van halen comes across as an arsehole ...... welcome to 1978, 79 ,80, 81, 82, 83 ........ 2015

:D
 
This guy might be beyond repair at his point. I mean, what does he have to gain about bashing Mike? Word was, at that time, Ed was in no condition to show anyone anything. Why does he need to bring him up in a negative light at all? At the very least Mike still has his self-respect. Then rumors about VH putting an injunction on Hagar so he cant do the Van Hagar material? He should be more concerned with himself and how his legacy is slowly going down the drain. Kinda ironic how a guy who was worried about being misquoted in interviews and just wanting to be a musician now feels the need to bash former band members. It "was a blend of Mike's voice and mine?".....that's a joke...if that's the case, then Mike saved his ass many a night, especially during the Hagar reunion tour. This behavior is beneath someone who is considered by many one of the greatest musicians ever to walk the earth. The best thing for him to do is to end Van Halen and do a solo album or retire. He knows Roth is an embarrassment. He wont go through the hassle (or admission that he might have made some mistakes) of making things right with Hagar and Mike. This band has made so many mistakes in the last 10 years its astounding. His act is getting old. He should just retire and stop embarrassing himself and his millions of fans who have stuck by him throughout all of this garbage.
 
What a dick. He's just gotten ridiculous. Love his inventiveness and music, but I've changed my mind about going to the VH show here. Not going to support that asshole.
 
BMoore77":1fstn7zp said:
This guy might be beyond repair at his point. I mean, what does he have to gain about bashing Mike? Word was, at that time, Ed was in no condition to show anyone anything. Why does he need to bring him up in a negative light at all? At the very least Mike still has his self-respect. Then rumors about VH putting an injunction on Hagar so he cant do the Van Hagar material? He should be more concerned with himself and how his legacy is slowly going down the drain. Kinda ironic how a guy who was worried about being misquoted in interviews and just wanting to be a musician now feels the need to bash former band members. It "was a blend of Mike's voice and mine?".....that's a joke...if that's the case, then Mike saved his ass many a night, especially during the Hagar reunion tour. This behavior is beneath someone who is considered by many one of the greatest musicians ever to walk the earth. The best thing for him to do is to end Van Halen and do a solo album or retire. He knows Roth is an embarrassment. He wont go through the hassle (or admission that he might have made some mistakes) of making things right with Hagar and Mike. This band has made so many mistakes in the last 10 years its astounding. His act is getting old. He should just retire and stop embarrassing himself and his millions of fans who have stuck by him throughout all of this garbage.

That sums up the whole story.
 
i know it shouldnt...but at what point does who a person inherently is start to color your perception of their music.

lots of asshole musicians in the world and usually dont give a shit but, man, ed is really putting that to the test for me
 
I stopped listening to anything that comes out of Eddies mouth in whatever media 20+ years ago. I'll listen to his guitar, but seeing him during the "mohawk" era really put a terrible scar on that as well. Just when I thought maybe he had learned to put a filter on his mouth at least somewhat. Nope!
 
Eddie must have brain cancer or something. Also can someone explain to me the current tour? Their touring a live album with the same tunes we heard last tour, and probably the same exact arrangement?
 
journeyman73":3aba86qh said:
i know it shouldnt...but at what point does who a person inherently is start to color your perception of their music.

lots of asshole musicians in the world and usually dont give a shit but, man, ed is really putting that to the test for me

You bring up an interesting point. It shouldn't matter at all to the enjoyment of the music, but somehow it feels different with Ed.

IMO a lot of it is image and perception finally meeting head-on with reality. The vast majority of guitarists on stage have always tried to look intense/serious/credible, but in over half the early stage shots you see of Ed he's wearing a huge sh*t-eating grin. Maybe it's because he was wasted/high, but the guy always looked like he was exuding joy, having the time of his life, and not being afraid to admit it. A lot of the early VH catalog is upbeat and happy. The visual fit the music.

Eddie-Van-Halen-by-Jon-Sievert.jpg


I can't blame the fans for projecting that the smiley guitar player was some affable everyman, and maybe he was at some point but changed over time, but that illusion was completely shattered. For me, I started seeing Ed as a bit of a curmudgeon back in the mid/late '90s (and it only got worse from there), but if you look hard enough there's print interviews of EVH slagging his bandmates as early as 1981.

Been a hardcore fan of the band for 30+ years, but I've never seen backlash this severe towards Ed. I think there's a bit of schadenfreude to it, because Ed's been getting away with it for a LONG time and it's fitting that he's finally been called out on all the sh*t talking. He could've taken the high road and avoided all of this.

Talking about guys known as ***hole musicians, it's funny how Yngwie and Ed have had almost a reversal of perception in recent years. I never saw that coming.
 
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