Great Billboard EVH cover story

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Steinmetzify":xfc5l0hb said:
I dunno man.....for me, he wasn't the be all end all like he is for some of you; I'm a lot younger than people that saw him in 1985....but I respect the hell out of him.

Dude has gone thru more alcohol and drugs than most other 10 people ever will.....that's gotta fuck with your memory and your brains. I know for a fact as a recovering addict myself that there are things I don't remember or remember differently than the sober (or at least more sober) people that were there.

Not to mention the fact that if you play guitar in one of the biggest rock bands the world has ever seen, and you're the biggest innovator/guitar influence in the world for a certain generation since Jimi fuckin Hendrix, you're going to be used to a certain type of attention or deference from people and eventually, you're going to act and think accordingly about yourself, because everyone tells you to, constantly, for decades.

I think it'd take a man of an indescribable amount of integrity to be who EVH is, have gone through everything he has, and still be the guy you all want him to be. He's a human being, just like us. No one is perfect all the time, or even 20% of the time. I think it's a little bit ridiculous to expect him to be so, just because of who he is to you, or who you think he should be.

I'm in....I still read all his articles, I play his gear (which is fantastic, BTW, as I'm sure many of you know) and his sig guitars are fuckin awesome for me for everything from blues to the most brutal metal I play.

I'm not his biggest fan and I know that, but I'm still going to be fucking devastated when the day comes that I wake up, fire a smoke, hit RT and see that he died. It'll be the end of someone that was an influence on me before I even played guitar and has been there the entire time I've learned and grown as a musician.

Just thoughts after reading the article and then the thread.
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So... then it's ok for him to be a complete asshole because he's been an addict and famous?

Steve
 
Racerxrated":3rfon3xy said:
We admire people people who have talents that we aspire to but can't achieve...sports, music, business....when they turn out to be less than stellar human beings it's disappointing. But no ones perfect. Just because we look up to them doesn't mean they automatically have to be perfect. It sucks to change your opinion on one of your heroes....but it also keeps them more real..with plenty of flaws like the rest of us..
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I just can't abide a man being a complete asshole to people who made him rich for no reason I can discern. To me that shit is more than "less than stellar human being" or "no one's perfect". That is bottom of the barrel to me...

Steve
 
sah5150":fpmr3f7a said:
So... then it's ok for him to be a complete asshole because he's been an addict and famous?

Steve
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Didn't mean that at all, Steve...just meant that it's more understandable, is all.

As far as being a complete asshole to people that made him rich, it's one side of the story.....massive fame, drugs and booze make people do a bunch of different things...maybe DLR hit on Valerie a bunch of times or whatever...there are a lot of things people do to make you dislike them; I don't know the whole story, but maybe whatever it was is unforgivable to him and always will be.

Not excusing him, just saying I understand a little bit. I'm know for a fact that if I were in his shoes I'd be a fuckin asshole too....there's no way I'd ever be able to live under that kind of scrutiny and it would take its toll for sure. Eventually I'd either be doing interviews like this or pull a J.D. Salinger and never be seen again...
 
Man what a klass act he is ..Lukather should get the Credit for beat it being it was his riff the micheal Anthony stuff is just unbelievable.
 
Wow.. And I grew up on Van Halen...
I hate it when classic bands turn on each other, but I still love their music. For a long time I suspected that something was wrong with Eddie. I mean, It is just not cool to behave this way, to treat your band-mates like that. No one there to give you any resistance. Something is lacking in his upbringing I guess..
 
Steinmetzify":2cy1xj8a said:
sah5150":2cy1xj8a said:
So... then it's ok for him to be a complete asshole because he's been an addict and famous?

Steve
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Didn't mean that at all, Steve...just meant that it's more understandable, is all.

As far as being a complete asshole to people that made him rich, it's one side of the story.....massive fame, drugs and booze make people do a bunch of different things...maybe DLR hit on Valerie a bunch of times or whatever...there are a lot of things people do to make you dislike them; I don't know the whole story, but maybe whatever it was is unforgivable to him and always will be.

Not excusing him, just saying I understand a little bit. I'm know for a fact that if I were in his shoes I'd be a fuckin asshole too....there's no way I'd ever be able to live under that kind of scrutiny and it would take its toll for sure. Eventually I'd either be doing interviews like this or pull a J.D. Salinger and never be seen again...
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Many famous people are able to spend time under that scrutiny and not behave like complete jerks. As far as Roth, it's funny how he's happy to take the money he earns from playing with him, while simultaneously bagging on him. If Roth hit on his wife all the time, why not just say that and not associate with him anymore? And what did Michael Anthony ever do to deserve any of this.

There is something wrong with this guy beyond fame and there is only so much slack I can cut someone who repeatedly behaves horribly under the influence of drugs and alcohol? You ever hear the story of him being a racist asshole to the Pat Smear backstage at a Nirvana concert when Pat was playing with them? And Pat was a huge fan of EVH...

Steve
 
I respect Ed for being honest and I really don't think he means to be an asshole. There are some people that just can't communicate as well as others and put their foot in their mouths all the time. Nikki Sixx does it constantly. Kevin Debrow, etc., etc. Most of the time these guys back peddle and say "I didn't really mean that", etc.

Not excusing the guy but I think famous people are in the spotlight for so long that they lose touch with reality and say things they really shouldn't.
 
romanianreaper":2prvzmja said:
I respect Ed for being honest and I really don't think he means to be an asshole. There are some people that just can't communicate as well as others and put their foot in their mouths all the time. Nikki Sixx does it constantly. Kevin Debrow, etc., etc. Most of the time these guys back peddle and say "I didn't really mean that", etc.

Not excusing the guy but I think famous people are in the spotlight for so long that they lose touch with reality and say things they really shouldn't.
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So you respect him for being honest? Really? So you believe this gem about Michael Anthony?:

“Before we’d go on tour, he’d come over with a video camera and I’d have to show him how to play all the parts.”

Steve
 
I don't know anything about MA. Is it that far fetched?
 
EGO of a guitar hero. Maybe he's trying to justify making his son MA's replacement?
 
Jesus. Was willing to give EVH some benefit of the doubt. Wasn't there, never knew etc. someone that was there to get that mad about it lol.

Man, being in a successful band that breaks up repeatedly can just suck.
 
This attitude reminds me of his comment following Randy Rhoads death.
 
I love Mike's response to this: "I am proud to say that my bass playing and vocals helped create our sound. I’ve always chosen to take the high road and stay out of the never-ending mudslinging, because I believe that it ultimately ends up hurting the Van Halen fans."

Class act.
 
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Steinmetzify":1g0z7t2i said:
Jesus what the hell did he say about Randy dying?!
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Ed wasn't exactly gracious towards Rhoads after his death. From what I remember before Rhoads died, Ed basically stated something to the effect that "at least Rhoads was honest in how he copied me"," everything he learned, he learned from me"...something of that nature.

It's actually when EVH showed little sympathy for Randy after he died that you could see Ed had some issue's...and anyone that was around then...Ed, Sammy and Al bashed Roth to death after he first left VH. The quote at the time is VH used to be a VW, now it's a Porsch or Ferrari with Hagar type comments.

Ed and Al bashed Dave and all the original music when Dave left, bashed Sammy when he left, bashed Dave again after the MTV/Reunion fiasco (which was the perfect time to reform the original band...everybody was going crazy for it), bashed Mike, even tried to replace Mike with Sheehan all the way back in 1980, and now is beginning to bash Gary.

Pretty clear pattern here.
 
I would think even Friedman would realize the difference in teaching someone a "part" as opposed to how to play instrument.

The best bass player I've ever played with...I had to show him certain parts because it's what I wanted for the song but he could play me and most everybody in Nashville under the table.
 

That quote reminds me of the vast majority of the Brad King thread. Some things are just better left unsaid.
 

Every time I write a riff for a song I show the bass player. So what? Isn't that what we all do? If the bass player writes a riff, he shows it to me.

Eddie sounds like a fool. It's tough seeing hero's go out badly.

What ever happened to class?
 
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