Guthrie covering Shawn Lane's "Get You Back".....

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I always loved this tune. RIP Shawn...and thank God we have a talent like Guthrie to carry the torch :rock:

 
Only Gurthrie can do justice to such an amazing player and capture his spirit.....
But then again, GG can catch anyones spirit
 
I could name at least 20 Satriani tunes that have a way better melody than that. Nothing special at all.

In fact if i came up with this instrumental myself i would not feel i accomplished very much( and i ain't very good )
 
guthrie may be the only player on earth who could technically reproduce some of shawn's solos accurately, but emotionally, shawn had much more to offer. and his tone was richer; more of a personal voice and less clinical. one of the only shredders who actually had a killer lead tone not just built for speed.

guthrie's amazing but i still don't think he's reached his potential in terms of tone and how to touch people's hearts with his playing.
 
It's depressing that there's such a sob story over junkies like Amy Winehouse dying, when truly tragic deaths like Shawn Lane go virtually unnoticed by the mainstream.

As for the cover; it's a capable cover, but I agree that it lacks some of Shawn's emotion.
 
mentoneman":3o8ynxpi said:
guthrie may be the only player on earth who could technically reproduce some of shawn's solos accurately, but emotionally, shawn had much more to offer. and his tone was richer; more of a personal voice and less clinical. one of the only shredders who actually had a killer lead tone not just built for speed.

guthrie's amazing but i still don't think he's reached his potential in terms of tone and how to touch people's hearts with his playing.
He's touched mine... Erotics Cakes is amazing to me. Much more interesting to me than anything Shawn Lane has done. And I hate Shawn Lane's tone as well - mush... can't even hear the pick...

All subjective...

Steve
 
sah5150":r2chdel5 said:
mentoneman":r2chdel5 said:
guthrie may be the only player on earth who could technically reproduce some of shawn's solos accurately, but emotionally, shawn had much more to offer. and his tone was richer; more of a personal voice and less clinical. one of the only shredders who actually had a killer lead tone not just built for speed.

guthrie's amazing but i still don't think he's reached his potential in terms of tone and how to touch people's hearts with his playing.
He's touched mine... Erotics Cakes is amazing to me. Much more interesting to me than anything Shawn Lane has done. And I hate Shawn Lane's tone as well - mush... can't even hear the pick...

All subjective...

Steve
it's cool that erotic cakes has that effect on you. both of my sons feel the same way you do. i've taken both of them to see him live and they think guthrie is "it". most any day that my son danny and i have a long drive he commandeers my iphone and plays "waves" on the car stereo. fives has one of the craziest solos on record imo.

guthrie is insane and i'm a fan. but shawn's gentle spirit comes through his music and there's a sweetness and warmth about it, even in the most powerful blazing moments, like he really wanted the listener to connect to it. and i'd be willing to bet even the mighty guth would be intimidated to trade fours with shawn in his prime.
 
BYTOR":334ep71j said:
I could name at least 20 Satriani tunes that have a way better melody than that. Nothing special at all.

In fact if i came up with this instrumental myself i would not feel i accomplished very much( and i ain't very good )

Please look up the term subjective. read it, learn it, apply it then do it again.

I welcome your opinion, you are certainly entitled to it regardless of how utterly stupid it makes you look for phrasing it the way you did...
 
sah5150":3a1d2aac said:
He's touched mine... Erotics Cakes is amazing to me. Much more interesting to me than anything Shawn Lane has done.

Agreed. :yes:
 
Love me some Guthrie but I just never dug Shawn Lane's music despite the fact he was a ridiculously talented guitarist.
 
Gainzilla":l5bqeyq8 said:
BYTOR":l5bqeyq8 said:
I could name at least 20 Satriani tunes that have a way better melody than that. Nothing special at all.

In fact if i came up with this instrumental myself i would not feel i accomplished very much( and i ain't very good )

Please look up the term subjective. read it, learn it, apply it then do it again.

I welcome your opinion, you are certainly entitled to it regardless of how utterly stupid it makes you look for phrasing it the way you did...
Ooof!
Brah that travolta backhand echoed off the moon! Love yah Kagey!

what's funny is satch would probably laugh if he heard someone saying that he was better than lane. although it's no contest that satch enjoyed much greater success and popularity.

one strange thing i've noticed is guitar players who are predominantly blues rock guys with no deep understanding of theory tend to become redundant over the years, and the real musicians continue to evolve and don't lose their chops, although they often get weird and go through that crazy exotic eastern India phase in an attempt to go deeper into the spiritual side of music, out of boredom and disillusionment with commercial western formulas and predictability.

trouble is i'm not into turkish funeral music or hungarian nose flute scales.

at this point i'd much rather see eric gales or landau than shred stuff anyway.
 
hawkeye17":3l9owss2 said:
Love me some Guthrie but I just never dug Shawn Lane's music despite the fact he was a ridiculously talented guitarist.
Guthrie appeals to a more common rock sensibility

I think I loved Shawn so much because he was as fluid as holdsworth but much more accessible regarding melody, harmonic convention, and more earthy influences. He just played them faster and cleaner than anyone!

when I hear a typical rock solo it seems like I'm looking at a crack in the sidewalk.
When Shawn soloed it was like toes hanging over the edge of the grand canyon
can't imagine what it took to make it happen but I marvel at the complexity and leave inspired.

Yet lane actually played moments of recognizable guitar music.
Holdsy is trying to communicate with large headed creatures on the far side of the crab nebulae and would rather you didn't understand the language.
 
I've got a recording somewhere of Lane playing "All along the Watchtower" and it's one of the most glorious pieces of guitar music I've heard. He played some of the sweetest things man. :yes:
 
Badronald":28rhtxiz said:
I've got a recording somewhere of Lane playing "All along the Watchtower" and it's one of the most glorious pieces of guitar music I've heard. He played some of the sweetest things man. :yes:

yeah buddy-stuff issued from his mind and hands like he was channeling some source way bigger than himself.
i was fortunate enough to see him post powers of ten and pre "snake charmer" era :D

i went into the gig already a big fan expecting great things, but seeing him in person play impossible parts with outrageous tone left me totally blown away. he had the ej southern rock influence, the toneful tasty blues bends, and the otherworldly speed and holdsworth outside jazz sophistication and fluidity. i think i was extra fortunate because he wasn't playing his music. he was just jamming on jazz and blues cover songs and not so worried about executing parts, just WAILING.

that night, ej at coach house front row for ah via tour, yngwie at pomona valley auditorium front row for rising force first tour, landau at the potato, lynch at irvine meadows for ULAK tour, gambale with vital information at catalina bar front row, holdsworth at galaxy, racer x at waters club, srv at aloha stadium, steve morse opening for al dimeola, john mclaughlin and paco delucia at the waikiki shell, scott henderson with john luc ponty, heck the jam eric gales threw down at the two rock booth this past NAMM

all just massive guitar moments i wish i could share with you guys. amazing memories.
 
...oh and jason becker with marty friedman doing a clinic before a cacophony gig .....jason was another scary monster that belongs on the all time gtr moment list!
 
mentoneman":25dv646f said:
...at this point i'd much rather see eric gales or landau than shred stuff anyway.
And two run-of-the-mill backyard garage band Joes – nothing much to hear. And gales is no Jimi. Jimi did more at 27 then giles will ever do in his life time. And landau is mediocre at best.

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King Crimson":3joess4q said:
mentoneman":3joess4q said:
...at this point i'd much rather see eric gales or landau than shred stuff anyway.
And two run-of-the-mill backyard garage band Joes – nothing much to hear. And gales is no Jimi. Jimi did more at 27 then giles will ever do in his life time. And landau is mediocre at best.

Jimi_Hendrix_1967.png

LOL Comedy gold!!!!
 
sah5150":1ycd9v83 said:
mentoneman":1ycd9v83 said:
guthrie may be the only player on earth who could technically reproduce some of shawn's solos accurately, but emotionally, shawn had much more to offer. and his tone was richer; more of a personal voice and less clinical. one of the only shredders who actually had a killer lead tone not just built for speed.

guthrie's amazing but i still don't think he's reached his potential in terms of tone and how to touch people's hearts with his playing.
He's touched mine... Erotics Cakes is amazing to me. Much more interesting to me than anything Shawn Lane has done. And I hate Shawn Lane's tone as well - mush... can't even hear the pick...

All subjective...

Steve


+1

I'd rather listen to GG everytime. Plus, I thought Shawn Lane's tone was nothing special.
 
mentonemanone":2qhbmz4w said:
strange thing i've noticed is guitar players who are predominantly blues rock guys with no deep understanding of theory tend to become redundant over the years, and the real musicians continue to evolve and don't lose their chops, although they often get weird and go through that crazy exotic eastern India phase in an attempt to go deeper into the spiritual side of music, out of boredom and disillusionment with commercial western formulas and predictability.

I tend to agree with this except for the insinuation that you have to have a "deep understanding of theory" to be a "real musician". And I'll add that the "real musicians" who "evolve" and go into an India phase end up boring the shit out of most of us.
 
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