Guy in Sound City Now Using AxeFxII. LOL.

[fluff191]

Its not about if the Fractal is better than an amp or not. I just find it hilarious that a central figure in a movie about how a legendary studio was taken down by the evils of digital technology is now endorsing the Fractal. WTF?

 

[shgshg]

I don't recall Sound City being a movie about using valve amps. I think you have missed the point.

 

[jwhitman]

"....run it directly out of the back of the Fractal into the Neeve....."

Just trollin'

I took the big "battle" that is discussed in Sound City as the Analogue vs. Digital recording/mixing debate. Having just come out of the studio with my band, I imagine there's a little perk to having a tool in the tool box that is just "easy" in comparison to dealing with mic placement and the other issues related to attempting to capture an amazing guitar tone. I don't use my 11R for anything but easy and quick idea tracking, as I'm pro tubes for my live and rehearsal sounds. In the studio, I'm a "whatever sounds good" kind of guy. I've mixed 11R/Axe sounds with tube amps on tracks to create a rather nice wall of sound.

 

[fluff191]

I don't recall Sound City being a movie about using valve amps.

Absolutely right. The movie was about analog technology and analog recording and how 'modern technology' is this big bad thing. Last I checked a Fractal wasn't analog.

 

[shgshg]

Wow, you really did miss the whole point of the movie didn't you?

 

[Zachman]

Wow, you really did miss the whole point of the movie didn't you?

I didn't see the movie at all. What was the point of the movie?

 

[shgshg]

That real musical magic happens when a bunch of people get in a room and look each other in the eye and play, mistakes and flubs and all; that "cut-and-paste in Pro Tools" song creation and after-the-fact digital manipulation by "remix engineers" have sucked the human component out of recorded music.

 

[rlord1974]

Wow, you really did miss the whole point of the movie didn't you?

I didn't see the movie at all. What was the point of the movie?

Same as all movies: entertainment.

 

[just42dave]

it was about the legendary mixer

 

[Ventura]

1/2 the movie was about the lil' studio that could...and all the events and intricacies that surrounded that modest lil' studio that really should have never made it to the lengths and fame it did.

The second 1/2 of the movie was about the Neve desk and using it to recapture the magic that was so prevalent in the days of the SC studio.

There was a definite bent on doing things old school in the movie, and that's the fun of it - it was a slice of sonic history. The fact this dude is using the FAS now is neither here nor there for me, but I find it kinda cool if anything.

Cool post - thanks!
Mo

 

[fishyfishfish]

I thought the movie made some goo points
But also remember how much labor and cost
Went into those "golden age" records. Both good
I remember the studio I worked at charging $15,000.00
a day for use of space and a 32 track Mitsubishi digital
machine. Digital was not as much the demise as all the up
keep and mainteance of tape machines and boards and tape cooking and
cartage and storage. While I don't think this movie
vilifies digital in as much as it romantically looks at the
good old days of BIG budget recording, I do find it ironic
that after mildly dissin on digi the ax is in use.

 

[paulyc]

Any movie put out by Grohl should be titled "Sounds Shitty" as in Foo Fighters sound shitty. Dave should go back to drums.

 

[maddnotez]

Any movie put out by Grohl should be titled "Sounds Shitty" as in Foo Fighters sound shitty. Dave should go back to drums.

Dave Grohl is a pimp.

 

[skoora]

Any movie put out by Grohl should be titled "Sounds Shitty" as in Foo Fighters sound shitty. Dave should go back to drums.

Dave seems like an OK guy, as much as I can tell through media but I wholeheartedly agree about the Foos. What a horribly milquetoast band they are.

 

[ACShreds]

Why not? In today's studio environment it's about doing the best you can as quickly as possible with as few variables as possible. If they can get good tones and be able to call up the exact same tones with ease then it only serves to better the studio as a business plan. It takes away from the cost of renting amps the studio doesn't have and could make hiring sessions players easier and cheaper as less gear would need to be brought into the studio. I'm sure they don't use it exclusively over tube amps but just having one around seems like a no brainer for any studio.

 

[paulyc]

Poison and Motley Crue sold out shows and had big records and tours at one time and they both sound shitty too. The argument that you MUST have a recording career to comment on a band is silly on a gear forum...it's ALL a matter of opinion. I'm not a big fan of the Foo's music, and I HATE Nirvana...I don't give a shit if it's a hit or not. Pat Smear is a shitty player, Grohl is a shitty player (guitar) and to have had Schifflett or whatever his name is described by the bass player in Foo Fighters "a shredder" in the other Foo's movie they made is laughable...I think alot of shredders would agree...again ALL MY OPINION.

 

[K-mark5]

emm.. I am a metal head deep down in my heart, but listen to pretty much everything... and.. as much as I disliked Nirvana and hated the first one or two foo fighters albums, I love it death now.

I had the chance to see them live in Prague last year and looking at all the gigs I've ever been to, this was the best musical experience to me in my life so far.

For me they are the current number one band on the planet, although I hate such final statements, even if one does not like the musical style, he should be able to appreciate at least the craftmanship and the whole FF wibe around the band.

Seriously, this is like the ultimate live stadium band right now and I've seen Paul McCartney a couple of months ago who pulled an amazing almost 3 hours lasting show in his 70s.

 

[paulyc]

I have Foo's music on cd and my ipod...I didn't say I don't like the tunes...it's more the production I don't like...very meh sounding guitars to me...despite having access to ANYTHING as far as amps and guitars go AND that stunning Neve and real tape...that shit should sound killer...again, just my opinion.

 

[rupe]

Is it true that the Sound City album, even though recording using the infamous board, was actually recorded to digital medium and not tape? If so, I think it qualifies as a major WTF? moment.

 

[K-mark5]

I have Foo's music on cd and my ipod...I didn't say I don't like the tunes...it's more the production I don't like...very meh sounding guitars to me...despite having access to ANYTHING as far as amps and guitars go AND that stunning Neve and real tape...that shit should sound killer...again, just my opinion.

thats because the guitars serve the music. the music isnt there for guitar nerds to go crazy over the tones. the tones are there for the song. last I checked the guitars sound great on their records. and the production value is as good as it gets. not sure what your trying to compare it to.

+ 100000
the guitar sound is there not to stand out and amaze, but to sound great in context, which it indeed does.. it's there to serve the purpose.. some of the greatest hits in rock'n'roll were recorded on a much much shittier guitar sound.. one would probably puke if he/she heard it in an isolated track (counting metallica in for sure in this round )