Hell froze over....

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Yeah I know Scotty. Been at offsite locations for over a week now. Ugh... :aww:
 
i almost posted the exact thread title the day i got it :lol: :LOL:


i'm a fair guy and wanted to give it a shot....there were maybe 4-5 factory presets that sounded nice but all were pretty buried with effects. effects sounded great as expected.

i wish the preset layout was more naked amps, but steve mentioned you could download exactly that--dry amps all at 12 oclock--and work from there.

i can't work with it until this weekend so no real thoughts yet
 
mentoneman":29baukxy said:
i almost posted the exact thread title the day i got it :lol: :LOL:


i'm a fair guy and wanted to give it a shot....there were maybe 4-5 factory presets that sounded nice but all were pretty buried with effects. effects sounded great as expected.

i wish the preset layout was more naked amps, but steve mentioned you could download exactly that--dry amps all at 12 oclock--and work from there.

i can't work with it until this weekend so no real thoughts yet
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Give it some time and start from scratch. The amp presets were pretty much useless for me (because I like weird stuff lol) but some off the effects presets just blew me away and I learned a lot from Cliff just from deciphering what he did.
You can find your voice in there if you take your time. all IMHO of course ;)
 
so the tech 21 power engine came in yesterday which meant i HAD to twirl the almighty knob of the Axe. had a mackie monitor for the other side of stereo.


in an hour i was able to sort through 10 presets i liked and bring them to the front of the line---storing them in slots 1-10.

hermida dual boot likes to party with the front of the axe. tone press not as much but still ok.

the "organic" preset is a wall-eyed hour burner. i think i forgot to give my kids dinner. :D


i'm looking for weaknesses and so far it is dialing in the glassy transparency and tube feel in the fender and dumble type tones. i don't get the sensation of diving through warm glassy layers of water like i do playing a real blackface fender...the deep throaty twang tone that is buffered by the warm headroomy tube bounce and jensen speaker air.

i kinda liked the mister dumble patch but i tried to reduce amp drive to make the chords and sustain more "clean" and wasn't succeeding. so then you start reaching for compression but that sorta neuters the edge too much...

it does high gain very well and easily on the level of my old triaxis but that's normally easier to conjure up in any preamp.

baby steps. some of the plexi marshall patches however showed surprising dynamics via pick attack.
the pcm 70 reverbs are right there with lexicon and the 2290 is maybe not as buttery but great in it's own right and immediately more dense than my gforce, which is good.

not as wowed with the echoplex but the vintage delay ala memoryman sound is killer.

so just based on the fact that you get a triaxis level preamp with lexicon/evetide/tc level effects should be reason enough to get one of these if those are considerations and you are using the effects for gtrs.

tomorrow should be FUN :)
http://gallery.me.com/mentoneman#100016/Axefx
 
and my space echo should be arriving back today all restored and happy after a LONG retirement.
:rock:
 
Big props for stepping up and really diving into it to make an educated conclusion.
 
i am really happy with how the power engine works with the axe.

i look forward to introducing a tube or two into the chain though.
i have a presonus tube pre, the valvulator, a dbx 376 tube pre, the timeline, and of course the mighty eggie to experiment with.

at work today i get to mess with the art pro VLA II stereo tube compressor we installed in the media room for some tube fattening and leveling of the audio mix we send to the web, cd recorder (which gets sent to radio), dvd recorder, and video hard disk recorder for editing to a video on demand program on HisChannel.

we get old folks that tune in for the webcasts when they're too tired or sick to come in to church, or military folks from our church overseas, or missionaries all over the place with laptops or bad speakers, and they have a hard time hearing the sound during the message so this ought to ramp up the average a few dbs!

i look forward to seeing what that puppy will do. it looks cool!

and speaking of hell freezing over :D ,

for anyone in the so cal/ Redlands area, next friday this guy will be in concert at our church so come on down!


and as always,

be metal :rock:
 
As I recall, (haven't had an Ultra for several months), the advanced settings in the amp block can provide you with parameters to control the "tube feel and dynamics"?

It sounds like you have the external pedals to add tube warmth though that's added baggage which should be unnecessary (IMO) with the Axe-Fx capabilities and user tweaking effort.

Thanks for your review, your opinions are well regarded by many (well, me for one). :thumbsup:
 
rsm":2bkn80gi said:
As I recall, (haven't had an Ultra for several months), the advanced settings in the amp block can provide you with parameters to control the "tube feel and dynamics"?

It sounds like you have the external pedals to add tube warmth though that's added baggage which should be unnecessary (IMO) with the Axe-Fx capabilities and user tweaking effort.

Thanks for your review, your opinions are well regarded by many (well, me for one). :thumbsup:
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I'll be the first to admit I am a total UltraNewb!!
 
HGainiac":1n7vf1wo said:
Pat, admit you like it already..... :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL:
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brotatoes pancakes!

you know i wouldn't have bruce lee'd the clams out of my pocket unless the axe was worthy!
 
I have a couple of requests if you have time and so desire.

One, should be easy enough, I'd really like to know what people feel about just the amp models. Most of clips are fairly wet. Strip away all the effects, and just play with the amp models. How do they sound/feel?

I'd like to hear the amp do thick, girthy tone. The thickest fattest daddy of them all, a JCM800 tone machine. Not a pussy, shrill, GNR type tone, but a fat, larger than life No More Tears type of tone.

The modelers do the modern thing pretty well, it seems, but modern amps they don't have that girthy, almost solid sounding depth that some of the classics amps do. I want to see if a modeler can simulate that, not just the surface tone.

Impress me, give us some No More Tears tone.
 
Rogue":n07v1e8x said:
I have a couple of requests if you have time and so desire.

One, should be easy enough, I'd really like to know what people feel about just the amp models. Most of clips are fairly wet. Strip away all the effects, and just play with the amp models. How do they sound/feel?

I'd like to hear the amp do thick, girthy tone. The thickest fattest daddy of them all, a JCM800 tone machine. Not a pussy, shrill, GNR type tone, but a fat, larger than life No More Tears type of tone.

The modelers do the modern thing pretty well, it seems, but modern amps they don't have that girthy, almost solid sounding depth that some of the classics amps do. I want to see if a modeler can simulate that, not just the surface tone.

Impress me, give us some No More Tears tone.
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Zach's "No More Tears" tone has chorus on it. :D
 
ejecta":2gn8i6t8 said:
Zach's "No More Tears" tone has chorus on it. :D
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It was wet as hell, but the basic amp tone was thick, delicious Marshall tone. I'd like to see if any of these modelers can get that girthy, solid-like tone.
 
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