Help identifying tube

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I found another old tube I can’t identify.
It has a square getter tilted at 45
Black ladder plates. I measure plates 16mm
Orange/red paint barely left
12 is stamped in the open space between 2 pins on the bottom
I appreciate any help
 

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Look like original RCA fender tubes from the 60s.
That looks exactly what originally came out of my untouched 69 vibrolux

Lemme fine one and post it
 
I have a mystery tube that came in a used amp I bought a few years ago. I'll have to dig it out, but I suspect it's an RCA as well.
 
As luck would have it i hid mine for safe keeping and cant find it

But this is the same thing

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As luck would have it i hid mine for safe keeping and cant find it

But this is the same thing

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That's a different tube; Sylvania Long Grey Plate Circle Getter 12AX7. Different getter, mica, plate structure and copper rods vs nickel for RCA. Says RCA but it's relabeled.
 
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I found another old tube I can’t identify.
It has a square getter tilted at 45
Black ladder plates. I measure plates 16mm
Orange/red paint barely left
12 is stamped in the open space between 2 pins on the bottom
I appreciate any help

@marshall2020 More pics would help but most likely RCA but maybe Westinghouse 12AX7 long black plate.

Can you please take pictures of the getter and micas from a couple of angles?
 
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Here are more pics
Thanks for your help
 

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