Hetfield back to rehab... tour canceled.

[napalmdeath]

As a person who has suffered from addiction nearly my entire life, and is now 2 years sober, I can say that some of this negativity is just plain ignorant. All the money in the world doesn't change how a person is wired, nor does it change the thought process, or thinking of ones' self. You can't pay personal demons to go away. You can't buy a new brain. People with lots of money have the same problems the rest of us poor slobs do, just more zeroes behind them.

The man has stress like the rest of us do, and the high demands of selfish, entitled sorry fucks in the world who think everyone owes them something only compounds it. Of course, one has to learn how to deal with it. 300 million dollars doesn't make it go away.

 

[romanianreaper]

Sad that threads like these draw out the cockroaches.

So you don't like the guy, post it once if you crave the attention of being the one to stand alone, and then fuck off to some other thread for your ignorant objectionist and outrage attention fix. No need to keep coming back to defend your point again and again especially when you declare how little you care about the subject in point.
Talking about addiction, some forum folks seem addicted to outrage posts in their patterns of threads through the forum.

I even look at this different as I'm aging. I used to argue and rant on the HC forum back in the day when someone would troll. Now I just let them vent and forgive them because they are obviously dealing with something in life that makes them feel that.

Back to Hetfield, I can't imagine being on the road in my mid 50s like they are. I'm not saying that someone should turn to alcohol, drugs, etc. while on tour but man, you have to start feeling like a machine. I remember when Ace Frehley fell off the wagon around 2000 during KISS' reunion run and couldn't even do interviews. Thankfully he is sober and has been for awhile. I think James will get straight. It is a lifelong thing. The guys in Aerosmith have talked about that before.

 

[guitarbilly74]

Yeah money/fame does allow for better treatment options but it also brings a lot of temptations that are hard for an addict to cope with.

Addiction is a heavy cross to bear, I wish them all the best, whether it's average Joe or a big rockstar.

 

[journeyman73]

I feel bad for anyone who is an addict, but I feel less bad for someone in their 50's with millions who can't get his shit figured out. At some point it's never going to happen. Retire from music for good, sort yourself out. People talk about "demons"..some of them are brought onto yourself. Sorry, not sorry.

This ^^ right here is why I question our humanity and the state of our World daily. Addiction does not give a shit how much money you have, race, creed, age, etc, etc... it is an internal, wired disease that spiderwebs through the best and worst of us. And some's 'demons' were implanted long before they knew what demons were... the mind and body sometimes have to find ways to fight those demons they never asked for... and addiction becomes a way of life. We..and that's you too.. never truly know who someone is, their story, their life. And while yes, some addicts just don't want to do the work and get better... there are so many out there trying. And I go back to the top... it's a shame another thread has to be twisted into something negative.... shame.

I hope this does make you question. Question why you feel so much for a man who could give a shit less about you and has no idea that you even exist. Why? Because he wrote some cool riffs 30 years ago? A man who lives in a giant mansion, who has more money than anyone you know will ever have and can't get help or does not care to get it. You are totally wrong thinking we are all on "equal ground" fighting addiction. Money matters. Total fucking deluded bullshit. He would be in jail right now, or dead if he were an "everyday guy". These people have the best doctors, the best retreats, the best everything. Sorry if I don't shed tears for a guy who has had every chance on earth, and his biggest loss is having to cancel a tour where he will make millions..again.

Haha you’re a pathetic human being.

Obviously, you don’t have the life you want - whether you choose to admit it or not.

I only wish I knew what your earlier life circumstances were and the stupid choices you made that have led to your miserable circumstances now....so, i could judge you from afar.

 

[ultimatemetalguitartones]

Well, I guess "old habbits reappear, fighting the fear of fear'... Listen to the song " Bleeding me" it's all about dealing with ur demons... No words can possibly describe how much I look up to him not only as a musician but as a person as well... Somehow I feel this is gonna be the end for Metallica... Be strong and get well soon, dude...

 

[Goat]

A guy who works in the produce dept. at my local grocery store recently started on guitar. He saw my MSG t-shirt, and asked if I play? Turns-out that he's a Metallica fanatic. Every time I see him, he starts-in with "Kirk does this, James does that..." I asked if he has listed to players like Roy Buchanan, Gary Moore, Alvin Lee, and Michael Schenker? He responds with an eye-roll, and goes back to talking about Kirk and James. I respond with a Spock eye, waiting for an opportune exit. Oh, and his breath is putrid! I have to keep backing away from him, because he's a dip-in to talk to you type. Next time I see him, I'm going to tell him about it. The guy is married, so you would think she would advise him to address the issue.

He corned me last week, and asked... "Hey, buddy, do you like Motley Crue?" I responded quickly... No, I don't. "How about RATT?" No. "Ozzy?" No. "Megadeth?" No. He has never bothered to ask what I do like, which speaks volumes. His singular attitude reminds me of the "...that's not metal" shit-cannons who populated the 1980's pop scene. Although I don't share his affinity for 80's pop, I do admire his passion. I dropped a few names for him to check-out, so maybe I'll get some feedback. Maybe not... When I told him there should be a law against Kirk using a wah pedal, he went visceral!

 

[Racerxrated]

I feel bad for anyone who is an addict, but I feel less bad for someone in their 50's with millions who can't get his shit figured out. At some point it's never going to happen. Retire from music for good, sort yourself out. People talk about "demons"..some of them are brought onto yourself. Sorry, not sorry.

This ^^ right here is why I question our humanity and the state of our World daily. Addiction does not give a shit how much money you have, race, creed, age, etc, etc... it is an internal, wired disease that spiderwebs through the best and worst of us. And some's 'demons' were implanted long before they knew what demons were... the mind and body sometimes have to find ways to fight those demons they never asked for... and addiction becomes a way of life. We..and that's you too.. never truly know who someone is, their story, their life. And while yes, some addicts just don't want to do the work and get better... there are so many out there trying. And I go back to the top... it's a shame another thread has to be twisted into something negative.... shame.

I hope this does make you question. Question why you feel so much for a man who could give a shit less about you and has no idea that you even exist. Why? Because he wrote some cool riffs 30 years ago? A man who lives in a giant mansion, who has more money than anyone you know will ever have and can't get help or does not care to get it. You are totally wrong thinking we are all on "equal ground" fighting addiction. Money matters. Total fucking deluded bullshit. He would be in jail right now, or dead if he were an "everyday guy". These people have the best doctors, the best retreats, the best everything. Sorry if I don't shed tears for a guy who has had every chance on earth, and his biggest loss is having to cancel a tour where he will make millions..again.

Haha you’re a pathetic human being.

Obviously, you don’t have the life you want - whether you choose to admit it or not.

I only wish I knew what your earlier life circumstances were and the stupid choices you made that have led to your miserable circumstances now....so, i could judge you from afar.

Well said.

 

[romanianreaper]

Yeah money/fame does allow for better treatment options but it also brings a lot of temptations that are hard for an addict to cope with.

Addiction is a heavy cross to bear, I wish them all the best, whether it's average Joe or a big rockstar.

Yeah, people always say "why don't they just go to rehab?" or "why don't they seek help?", etc. My kid told me that you are not yourself so that rational person is just not in there. I have always had a very open relationship with my kid and she has always been able to tell me anything. After her friend died of an overdose, I said "aren't you guys afraid of dying?!!" and she nonchalantly said "no, why would we be afraid of dying? My generation is trying to just go as hard as possible and if we die, we die". At that moment, I realized I was dealing with a different person altogether.

Thankfully she pulled her life together and is doing great. I never forget that she could be back at that place one day and I have to always be ready to be there.

 

[skullfxr]

Yeah money/fame does allow for better treatment options but it also brings a lot of temptations that are hard for an addict to cope with.

Addiction is a heavy cross to bear, I wish them all the best, whether it's average Joe or a big rockstar.

Yeah, people always say "why don't they just go to rehab?" or "why don't they seek help?", etc. My kid told me that you are not yourself so that rational person is just not in there. I have always had a very open relationship with my kid and she has always been able to tell me anything. After her friend died of an overdose, I said "aren't you guys afraid of dying?!!" and she nonchalantly said "no, why would we be afraid of dying? My generation is trying to just go as hard as possible and if we die, we die". At that moment, I realized I was dealing with a different person altogether.

Thankfully she pulled her life together and is doing great. I never forget that she could be back at that place one day and I have to always be ready to be there.

Reaper, prayers for your daughter and for you for being there for her.

I am not going to go into details, but I had a decade of addiction running rampant. 3 years clear. Also a paranoid schizophrenic. It's a hard place to be in.

Sometimes it's easy to judge/misjudge. I just want to say that we are missing the point. HE is STRUGGLING with a problem that is easy to damn from an outside perspective. Everybody has a problem. I am sure that there are all sorts of addiction going on even in this thread. Regardless of the nature of the issues, it CAN be a struggle. Food addiction? Sex addiction? Money addiction? Etc.

I wish the best for him, just as i do for everyone i would on here, or i know in the real world. Rich or poor, tall or short, white or black,old or young, everyone deserves to be free of addiction.

 

[romanianreaper]

Reaper, prayers for your daughter and for you for being there for her.

I am not going to go into details, but I had a decade of addiction running rampant. 3 years clear. Also a paranoid schizophrenic. It's a hard place to be in.

Thanks man!! Glad you are in a better place now too brother!

 

[311boogieman]

Get well James


Like napalmdeath said, "You can't pay your demons to go away".

That's a good way to say it. And as others have said, being the leader of one of the biggest rock/metal bands of all time and touring like they do has stress related to it that we can't even comprehend.

 

[Meeotch]

I have a family member who is an addict of approximately 20 years. Mostly hardcore shit like meth and heroine. For the last couple decades he has continued to make the most dumb fuck decisions, getting arrested, wrecking cars, and attempting suicide. And after all of this bullshit, he still blames the world. Claims it is a disease that he has no control of. Takes no responsibility.

Yes, I realize addicts have a hard path, and sometimes I do feel sorry for them. But not always. We all eat shit in various ways. I've been sick for 9 years. My gallbladder stopped working and my hair falls out. Multiple surgeries, antibiotics, blah blah. I own that shit. It's my sickness, my burden to bear.

Basically, I don't think it's as cut and dry as some of you are making addiction out to be. Every person will handle addiction differently. And if they can at least own it, then they will have my sympathy and support.

 

[skullfxr]

I have a family member who is an addict of approximately 20 years. Mostly hardcore shit like meth and heroine. For the last couple decades he has continued to make the most dumb fuck decisions, getting arrested, wrecking cars, and attempting suicide. And after all of this bullshit, he still blames the world. Claims it is a disease that he has no control of. Takes no responsibility.

Yes, I realize addicts have a hard path, and sometimes I do feel sorry for them. But not always. We all eat shit in various ways. I've been sick for 9 years. My gallbladder stopped working and my hair falls out. Multiple surgeries, antibiotics, blah blah. I own that shit. It's my sickness, my burden to bear.

Basically, I don't think it's as cut and dry as some of you are making addiction out to be. Every person will handle addiction differently. And if they can at least own it, then they will have my sympathy and support.

The key to your family member's continued trouble is that he hasn't owned up to it. I think that is where lies an addict to someone who has moved forward clean after the fact.

I don't know Hetfield but only he knows where he is. We don't know where his mind is. Thats it.

 

[panhead]

When someone is a habitual drinker they see only the drink to a degree, many people function perfectly fine this way. Most of the time it is when the drinker thinks there is nothing wrong and outsiders start pointing the finger at them/ mostly because the outsiders don't drink. He may have never stopped drinking who knows.

 

[Beandust]

I feel bad for anyone who is an addict, but I feel less bad for someone in their 50's with millions who can't get his shit figured out. He has not faced the adversity that 90% of everyday people have on a daily basis just trying to live/raise a family/exist.

Life is tough. You really think mounds of money changes that?

Aloof and above it all.

Yes! Mounds of money changes everything, isnt that quite obvious. It may make it tougher for someone who's an addict because of the ability to get what they want 100× easiet than average joe. May be tougher on the rich because they think they have the mo ey to overcome anything so there is less to worry about. Could make it harder to quit because they can do what ever they want whenever they want.$ can get you out of commuting murder as we all know. I have lost family from addiction ending in death. It's sad, dude was very well off!!! However not being able to overcome immaturity is no excuse nor do I sympathize with it for anyone. For the person who has a rougher life it maybe a indirect suicidal mindset that makes it easier to continue with drugs. I dont sympathize with either. If you want something bad enough, especiallysomething you either do or do not put into your bloodstream i have never agreed that rehab does anything but surround you with people who do drugs and talk about doing drugs. Being rich enables you to do things in life others can only dream of doing that is cost related. You either accept the reality and the challenge or you cave in regardless. Everyone has had adversity to overcome at some point. Poor little rich rock star cant grow up is how I see it. If he wanted to he quit he would. just my opinion

 

[journeyman73]

I feel bad for anyone who is an addict, but I feel less bad for someone in their 50's with millions who can't get his shit figured out. He has not faced the adversity that 90% of everyday people have on a daily basis just trying to live/raise a family/exist.

Life is tough. You really think mounds of money changes that?

Aloof and above it all.

Yes! Mounds of money changes everything, isnt that quite obvious. It may make it tougher for someone who's an addict because of the ability to get what they want 100× easiet than average joe. May be tougher on the rich because they think they have the mo ey to overcome anything so there is less to worry about. Could make it harder to quit because they can do what ever they want whenever they want.$ can get you out of commuting murder as we all know. I have lost family from addiction ending in death. It's sad, dude was very well off!!! However not being able to overcome immaturity is no excuse nor do I sympathize with it for anyone. For the person who has a rougher life it maybe a indirect suicidal mindset that makes it easier to continue with drugs. I dont sympathize with either. If you want something bad enough, especiallysomething you either do or do not put into your bloodstream i have never agreed that rehab does anything but surround you with people who do drugs and talk about doing drugs. Being rich enables you to do things in life others can only dream of doing that is cost related. You either accept the reality and the challenge or you cave in regardless. Everyone has had adversity to overcome at some point. Poor little rich rock star cant grow up is how I see it. If he wanted to he quit he would. just my opinion

Lot of ignorance running rampant, here...

This one is just golden, though: ‘if he wanted to quit he would’...somebody needs to make sure addicts know its this damn simple!

 

[Beandust]

I feel bad for anyone who is an addict, but I feel less bad for someone in their 50's with millions who can't get his shit figured out. He has not faced the adversity that 90% of everyday people have on a daily basis just trying to live/raise a family/exist.

Life is tough. You really think mounds of money changes that?

Aloof and above it all.

Yes! Mounds of money changes everything, isnt that quite obvious. It may make it tougher for someone who's an addict because of the ability to get what they want 100× easiet than average joe. May be tougher on the rich because they think they have the mo ey to overcome anything so there is less to worry about. Could make it harder to quit because they can do what ever they want whenever they want.$ can get you out of commuting murder as we all know. I have lost family from addiction ending in death. It's sad, dude was very well off!!! However not being able to overcome immaturity is no excuse nor do I sympathize with it for anyone. For the person who has a rougher life it maybe a indirect suicidal mindset that makes it easier to continue with drugs. I dont sympathize with either. If you want something bad enough, especiallysomething you either do or do not put into your bloodstream i have never agreed that rehab does anything but surround you with people who do drugs and talk about doing drugs. Being rich enables you to do things in life others can only dream of doing that is cost related. You either accept the reality and the challenge or you cave in regardless. Everyone has had adversity to overcome at some point. Poor little rich rock star cant grow up is how I see it. If he wanted to he quit he would. just my opinion

Lot of ignorance running rampant, here...

This one is just golden, though: ‘if he wanted to quit he would’...somebody needs to make sure addicts know its this damn simple!

Ignorance? Do you have experience with substance addiction? Your swift to throw insults tho. Far from ignorant to drug addiction, but that's ok, you roll with the insults, maybe that's your addiction or refusing to accept others opinions are just that. Sorry I dont have your opinion, maybe you can handle it or wait.. you've got another insult, that would be shocking. Please post the part where I used the " simple to quit part, typical

 

[napalmdeath]

I feel bad for anyone who is an addict, but I feel less bad for someone in their 50's with millions who can't get his shit figured out. He has not faced the adversity that 90% of everyday people have on a daily basis just trying to live/raise a family/exist.

Life is tough. You really think mounds of money changes that?

Aloof and above it all.

Yes! Mounds of money changes everything, isnt that quite obvious. It may make it tougher for someone who's an addict because of the ability to get what they want 100× easiet than average joe. May be tougher on the rich because they think they have the mo ey to overcome anything so there is less to worry about. Could make it harder to quit because they can do what ever they want whenever they want.$ can get you out of commuting murder as we all know. I have lost family from addiction ending in death. It's sad, dude was very well off!!! However not being able to overcome immaturity is no excuse nor do I sympathize with it for anyone. For the person who has a rougher life it maybe a indirect suicidal mindset that makes it easier to continue with drugs. I dont sympathize with either. If you want something bad enough, especiallysomething you either do or do not put into your bloodstream i have never agreed that rehab does anything but surround you with people who do drugs and talk about doing drugs. Being rich enables you to do things in life others can only dream of doing that is cost related. You either accept the reality and the challenge or you cave in regardless. Everyone has had adversity to overcome at some point. Poor little rich rock star cant grow up is how I see it. If he wanted to he quit he would. just my opinion

Lot of ignorance running rampant, here...

This one is just golden, though: ‘if he wanted to quit he would’...somebody needs to make sure addicts know its this damn simple!

Ignorant, for sure. The fact is, most people don't quit until they hit rock bottom. Some suffer less consequences. It doesn't discriminate, and people probably have differing opinions on what rock bottom is. James just hasn't hit his yet. Or, maybe he quit in the past to please other people. I did it to shut other people up for years. It wasn't until 2 years ago, I did it for myself. That's when it starts to work.

 

[romanianreaper]

I did it to shut other people up for years. It wasn't until 2 years ago, I did it for myself. That's when it starts to work.

This! My kid even told us that. We were always the "cool parents" and wasn't a thing we could do. She had to want to get clean. I never went the guilt route because I knew that wasn't going to do anything. I was always like "if you want our help we'll always be here for you", etc. and eventually it happened.

I've been a metalhead since 84'. Somehow with all of the rocker friends, being in bands, etc. it blows me away that I never touched a drug. I don't have a single tattoo either. I think I just wanted to make my own way and I knew with my addictive personality, I'd have 8,000 tattoos and stories about doing every drug. I had to keep myself on course. They always say that nobody wakes up wanting to be an addict. Kids try stuff and it becomes something you want everyday then something you need everyday.

Anyone who has dealt with addiction, either as the user or supporter, should see the movie "Beautiful Boy" with Steve Carrell. When my daughter got clean, my ex and I took her to see it and ALL of us understood what each person was dealing with. It makes you understand.

 

[RevDrucifer]

First off, to you gents who are going strong and winning the war against addiction, tight fucking work!

I got lucky. I started drinking when I was 6 or 7, my mom used to give me Fuzzy Navels fairly regularly because I thought they tasted great. By the time I was 15, I was a heavy drinker. I dabbled with all the drugs out there, did a LOT of them but somehow never got stuck on one. I'd use something long enough to experience withdrawals then stop and move onto something else, but booze was always flowing. I really don't remember a lot of my 20's, unfortunately. In my late 20's I got some shit off my chest with my family, moved away from where I was and slowly, drinking was less and less of a thing I was drawn to. I still drink occasionally, but I don't feel guilty for doing it these days. I've been drunk maybe 8x in 2019 and most of those days were a couple weeks ago during the week of my wedding. They were all GREAT times as I don't get blackout drunk anymore and do stupid shit that will ruin everything I've worked for in my life. Again, I got lucky.

To the scumbags in here that clearly have no clue what they're talking about, be fucking thankful you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about. Generally, I don't wish that kind of knowledge on anyone, but some tragic loss of control might do you fucktards well. You guys are the type that die alone and your last breath is merely a sigh of relief to those who had the misfortune of dealing with you. By the same token, I'm glad I see cunts like you guys on the internet as a reminder of how well I've done at cutting pieces of shit out of my life.