I hate irresponsible mofos...

[ratter]

the right to bear dogs...LOL

I know this is a serious thread, but that made me chuckle =D

I think it's pretty annoying - and I'm not talking about rupe here - but we've all seen them...the tough guys who think it's their God-given right to chain some foaming beast to a tree in their yard so that it can scare the shit out of everybody that walks by. Fuck that. People shouldn't have to live in fear in their own neighborhoods. Whether it's an aggressive dog, or an aggressive neighbor, or whatever the case might be.

 

[ranalli]

People can train cheetahs and crocodiles too, however, that doesn't mean I want them in my neighborhood. In the rare case they do flip out somebody's going to die. Can't say the same for a parakeet or cat.


Sorry to hear about your dog....hope the recovery is speedy. I would have been at the owner's neck by now.

 

[Anonymous]

Every time there's a pit bull attack, there's gotta be the people who jump to defend them. I am sure it's because they have a non aggressive pit. I am just tired of reading about pit bull attacks, period.

There have been numerous attacks in my area in the past year, all of them resulting in maming of children or other people.

It's easy to say "well, it's how they are trained" but until proven otherwise, I consider these dogs a ticking time bomb. People will defend them until it's their kid getting bit in the face and drug around a park.

 

[SkyhighRocks]

Damn that sucks. Hope she pulls through it Ed!

I've owned 3 pit bulls in my life and they were the sweetest dogs you'll ever meet. But then again, I taught them to respect people (and other animals) and to listen to their leader. most of these attacks are the fault of the owners who have no idea how to handle a dog...no matter the breed.

 

[amiller]

Ed, so sorry to hear this horrific news. I hope the little guy recovers completly.

Here's the thing, Pit Bulls are NOT a species of dog...they are a breed of dog. That means through SELECTIVE BREEDING this breed was ARTIFICALLY CREATED by man. They DO NOT exist in nature. If man stopped selectively breeding all dogs, dogs would return to their natural state...that's a dog with the basic qualities of the Dingo in Australia.

So, if dog fighting is illegal then why in HELL do we continue to artificially create a dog that no longer serves its original function?

Want to solve the PIT problem?...simple: STOP BREEDING PITS!

 

[Bob Savage]

Very sorry to hear it Ed, but glad your pup is going to make it. That's a tiny little dog so it's fortunate the pit didn't just crush her. It's ridiculous that people should have to worry about walking their smaller animals for fear of it being attacked.

 

[Fallout Labs]

You should come to my town where the average IQ of SOME pitbull owners is about 3. Potential owners of any pet should be given a test before being allowed to adopt. It's a responsibility.
Come to town on a summer day where you can watch the dudes walking their out of control pitbulls(grandfathered law), a boa or python around their neck and their kids in the custody of the Children's Aid Society...brilliant no job dope selling buggars.
I totally agree, it's not the animals but the owner.

Mark

i know someone who works for CA in cornwall.. i've heard alot of horrible stories..

 

[badger71]

My wife's cousin is pretty high up here at the North County Animal Control. You definitely have rights as far as this is concerned. I would call your local animal control and file a report.

 

[AmpliFIRE]

oh no

 

[Anonymous]

This just makes me sick because I've got a tiny defenseless pup as well... I hope that beautiful little dog of yours recovers completely and that your hand is ok, Ed. What kind of person leaves an unattended pit in the front yard with nothing to contain it? Hard to believe how stupid and negligent some people are...

Steve

 

[Greazygeo]

most of these attacks are the fault of the owners who have no idea how to handle a dog...no matter the breed.

This is very true. I've had friends that had Pit bulls and they were nice dogs. Any dog can be mean if not trained or are trained to be mean. Some pet owners don't deserve to own pets imo....

 

[Inearthed]

Very sorry to hear about this Ed.

I hate it when owners are irresponsible. At my girlfriend's parents place (out in the middle of the woods in Olympia) some of her distant neighbors let their dogs run wild, no fences, not tied up or anything. To make matters worse one of their dogs is VERY aggressive and likes to wander around the surrounding properties. It has attacked other dogs as well and a jogger apparently had to pepper spray it as it tried to bite him. When the owner was approached about all this the response was "Well, it ain't my problem" I guess that shouldn't surprise me, being it as these are the same people that have more rusted out / dead cars on their property than functioning ones and they burn their garbage instead of paying for removal service. People that let dogs that are aggressive (regardless of the breed) be unrestrained do not deserve to own pets!

What neighborhood of Seattle do you live in, Ed? I'm amazed that the owner let that aggressive dog just relax in the front yard without being chained up or anything. Regardless of it attacking anyone or anything, aren't they worried about the dog getting hit by a car??

 

[degenaro]

Very sorry to hear about this Ed.

I hate it when owners are irresponsible. At my girlfriend's parents place (out in the middle of the woods in Olympia) some of her distant neighbors let their dogs run wild, no fences, not tied up or anything. To make matters worse one of their dogs is VERY aggressive and likes to wander around the surrounding properties. It has attacked other dogs as well and a jogger apparently had to pepper spray it as it tried to bite him. When the owner was approached about all this the response was "Well, it ain't my problem" I guess that shouldn't surprise me, being it as these are the same people that have more rusted out / dead cars on their property than functioning ones and they burn their garbage instead of paying for removal service. People that let dogs that are aggressive (regardless of the breed) be unrestrained do not deserve to own pets!

What neighborhood of Seattle do you live in, Ed? I'm amazed that the owner let that aggressive dog just relax in the front yard without being chained up or anything. Regardless of it attacking anyone or anything, aren't they worried about the dog getting hit by a car??

I live in Tukwila. I talked to the owner this morning...ansked what's up with not having the dog contined. He said he treined him to stay in the yard...well, that didn't work out well.
He says he's paying for the vet bill, we'll see. Still won't know whether she'll be okay for another 2 hours.

 

[Audioholic]

all sorts of dogs can become aggressive quickly, I have a nice scar on my face from being bit by a german shepard type dog, and in my neighborhood, there are plenty of non pit aggresive dogs. Though I think the pit breed has natural tendencies that make them fighters, and usually ding bats are the ones who get them and nurture these qualities.

 

[rupe]

most of these attacks are the fault of the owners who have no idea how to handle a dog...no matter the breed.

This is very true. I've had friends that had Pit bulls and they were nice dogs. Any dog can be mean if not trained or are trained to be mean. Some pet owners don't deserve to own pets imo....

That's exactly it.

FWIW, I'm not a Pitbull lover...I'm a dog lover. I don't own nor have I ever owned a Pitbull. I have worked with them (my uncle was a trainer) and I have friends who own them. All of them were great animals. Have I seen mean ones? Yes, but I've seen mean examples in many different breeds. I think that any dog that is inherantly vicious should be put down whether its a Pitbull or a Cocker Spaniel (which as a breed consistently has more documented bites/year than Pitbulls ). Granted, a vicious Pitbull is more dangerous than a vicious Beagle...but not more dangerous than a vicious Rottweiler/German Sheppard/Mastiff/Great Dane/Newfoundland/Doberman/St. Bernard/etc.

I would be all for regulating/licensing people regarding ownership of "man-stopping" guard dogs. It wouldn't take long to profile who should be allowed to own one and who shouldn't. Unlike guns, those choosing to disobey the laws would have a much more difficult time getting away with it (it's hard to keep a "concealed Rottweiler" ). Human idiocy is responsible for the start of this thread. Had the owner properly secured the dog, this event doesn't take place. Had the dog been a German Sheppard, Boxer, Rhodesian Ridgeback., etc, the results most likely would have been the same because its the owner's irresponsibility that caused the incident, not the genetic makeup of the dog.

For anyone who truly wants to understand the facts/issues about Pitbulls, I recommend reading the various books by Dr. Carl Semencic or going to his website.

 

[Gainzilla]

I have an idiot living about a block away from me who has a pit and you can tell that he trains the thing to be aggressive.

Thats why I blame the Owner more than the dog. Sure, some breeds are more territorial/aggressive than others but in many cases, the owner is a jagoff like the one youre describing. I have this older gay black dude as a neighbor and he had this female Pit that was like a piece of steel with legs and she was as gentle and docile as he was; a loving friendly dog that was great to my son and other dogs, not a mean bone in her body..

My parents had a Jack Russell Terrier that was friggin ferocious around other dogs and it almost got her killed; She was 20lbs of fury that fearlessly went after Sheperds and Rottweilers without a second though...

Then you got the idiot hood rats who have the dogs as nothing more than a status symbol and you can look at the dogs and tell that you dont want to be anywhere near them..

The whole affair stinks..

 

[Digital Jams]

I have an idiot living about a block away from me who has a pit and you can tell that he trains the thing to be aggressive.

Thats why I blame the Owner more than the dog. Sure, some breeds are more territorial/aggressive than others but in many cases, the owner is a jagoff like the one youre describing. I have this older gay black dude as a neighbor and he had this female Pit that was like a piece of steel with legs and she was as gentle and docile as he was; a loving friendly dog that was great to my son and other dogs, not a mean bone in her body..

My parents had a Jack Russell Terrier that was friggin ferocious around other dogs and it almost got her killed; She was 20lbs of fury that fearlessly went after Sheperds and Rottweilers without a second though...

Then you got the idiot hood rats who have the dogs as nothing more than a status symbol and you can look at the dogs and tell that you dont want to be anywhere near them..

The whole affair stinks..

I think the rope thing ralph was talking about was a neck and jaw muscle training tool, read that somewhere in regards to training fighting dogs.

 

[gibson5413]

That's horrible. Mojo sent your way.

Some pet owners are just trash. They live for their pets to the point that they baby and condone this kind of behavior. The dog does whatever it wants and the owner makes excuses. I was out running recently when a big German Shepherd saw me from a quarter mile away. The dog was sitting on the front yard with its owner standing next to it talking with a friend. The dog immediately started running full speed right at me barking and growling. I tired to ignore it but it looked pretty menacing. I stood still while the dog started snapping at me. The owner didn't say sorry or anything. He only said don't panic, he won't bite (his friend immediately started to giggle). Like I'm supposed to know that. The owner acted as if it was partly my fault. What an f'er!! I was so close from putting my size 10 right under its chin (including the owner). I'm not afraid of dogs but it was so lame.

 

[Audioholic]

My parents had a Jack Russell Terrier that was friggin ferocious around other dogs and it almost got her killed; She was 20lbs of fury that fearlessly went after Sheperds and Rottweilers without a second though...

so true, There is a jack russel terrier that gets loose around here and has attacked my dog.

 

[Gainzilla]

My parents had a Jack Russell Terrier that was friggin ferocious around other dogs and it almost got her killed; She was 20lbs of fury that fearlessly went after Sheperds and Rottweilers without a second though...

so true, There is a jack russel terrier that gets loose around here and has attacked my dog.

she was a sweetheart at home and loved my parents shepherd to death but other dogs? fuhgettabout it!!!