I love the old Mesa Rectos, but the Uberschall is better...

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I’ve owned many Rectos, multiple Rev F duals and triples, played many Rev C, D, E versions. After I got a Uberschall Rev B, it blows them all away in both tone, feel and overall sound. I was even shocked that the Uber threw more controlled bottom end than a modded triple Rev C. With a pedal out front (I use a Pepers’ dirty tree) it just crushes. It’s only downfall for me is the clean channel. I mean it’s okay, but if Bogner made it to have two similar high gain channels, it would be way more versatile.

Thoughts?
 
Dave - I like rectos and Mesa in general but when I first had my Uber (1st run), I thought it blew my Rev. F out of the water. The Uber just had a drive that is focus, face melting and tough as nails. But you are right the clean channel left much to be desired.
 
Two completely different animals to my ears...at least the versions I had here. Had a 2014 MW Dual Recto and it was raw AF with a very prominent low mid roar. The Uber was a Rev blue 2012 I think and it was smooth, more upper mids, and pissed with quite possibly the most low end of any amp I've owned/tried.

Both killer but for what I play, but the Uber tracked faster and stuck around longer.
 
Owned lot of Mesas.
Only bogner I had was a twin jet.
Cool for about an hour.
Then I sent it packing. :aww:
 
psychodave":1d8g3ms6 said:
I’ve owned many Rectos, multiple Rev F duals and triples, played many Rev C, D, E versions. After I got a Uberschall Rev B, it blows them all away in both tone, feel and overall sound. I was even shocked that the Uber threw more controlled bottom end than a modded triple Rev C. With a pedal out front (I use a Pepers’ dirty tree) it just crushes. It’s only downfall for me is the clean channel. I mean it’s okay, but if Bogner made it to have two similar high gain channels, it would be way more versatile.

Thoughts?
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Never owned a Recto, but I've had three Ubers -- two greens and now a blue. They are really good at what they do, and I've never had an amp that had such usable low end.
 
psychodave":29q111hs said:
I’ve owned many Rectos, multiple Rev F duals and triples, played many Rev C, D, E versions. After I got a Uberschall Rev B, it blows them all away in both tone, feel and overall sound. I was even shocked that the Uber threw more controlled bottom end than a modded triple Rev C. With a pedal out front (I use a Pepers’ dirty tree) it just crushes. It’s only downfall for me is the clean channel. I mean it’s okay, but if Bogner made it to have two similar high gain channels, it would be way more versatile.

Thoughts?
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That would be awesome. I wish he would do that!
 
Old ubers are killer but are not good in a band mix with 2 guitars.
 
Kinda why I sold my first Herbert. MK1.
My latest Herbert MK2
Thing smashes thru anything. :D
 
I own an Uberschall serial #045 that I loaded with GT 6CA7s, completely transformed the amp. Firebreather
 
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I've owned a bunch of Ubers (2 OG run, 2 of the over-hyped Rev 2: which sound the worst to me, and 5 Rev Blues... and I may own more in the future ;))... but the Rev C Dual/Triple and the Rev F Triple (especially boosted) is where it is at for me. The Rev C is way tighter, brighter, more cut, and edgier. The dark, smooth nature of the Uber kills it for me. Just no way to dial it out or overcome that sound even with an od pedal or cranking it full up. Even different cabs/speakers can't change it. The Uber would be a cool amp, if I could pry that blanket off the cab front.
 
I made my statement based on playing the Uber right next to those coveted rectos. I think they sound very similar, except the Uber doesn't have that annoying top end sizzle (can of bees) rectos can have when not played at ear bleeding levels. I was more shocked how the my Uber had more bottom end and it was tighter and more focused. I never expected that. Again, the Uber's downfall is that it is a one trick pony... the clean channel sucks haha. That said, I wish I have my old rev F dual Recto. That recto was the best I'd ever heard... of course I sold it. :confused: :lol: :LOL:
 
I've only tried one Uber, at a GC in Mpls. Spent about 20 minutes with it; I was surprised at how open it sounded and it didn't seem to have a ton of gain...Plenty but I always thought it was over the top. This wasn't a very smooth tone at all. Not sure which version it was, it did have a ton of tight low end though. In the end it was a 'meh' experience but I know I didn't spend enough time with it. I imagine with a boost it would be a killer rig.
I've had 2 early Rev G Triples and that tone was way more to my liking than the Uber. But there are what, 5 versions of the Uber? And who knows what the tube situation was. After all it was at a GC lol.
 
My friend has a Uberschall Rev 2 (I think that’s what’s you meant, not revision blue), so I’ve played it several times and AB’ed it with some of my amps and his other amps. I’ve played the other Uber revisions as well (Twin Jet, Blue, Orginal, Other Rev 2’s). Nice amp for sure, but I wouldn’t say it blows away the old rectifiers. I guess it can for certain tastes/styles, but I think the old rectifiers also have certain things they do better than the Uber’s

He has also a rev F and some triples (forgot which version triples). To my ears I like that the Uber is tighter, more saturated and feels easier to play, and better for leads and single note heavy riffs, but there are other amps that I feel are still better for leads and tight palm mutes than the Uber. What I think his Rev F does better than the Uber is sounding more raw, biting and growly/gritty on powerchords and more organic overall. The Uber overall sounded smoother and more polished

I used to have an Atomica modded SLP that sounded amazing (prototype for the Atomica) (sold it not too long ago) and when I compared it with his Uber I felt it outdid what his Uber excelled at and more (bigger sounding, tighter, better leads, more raw, organic, growly, angry powerchords). He himself has an amazing sounding Cameron José modded SLP that I liked even more than that Atomica I had. I also overall preferred my IIC+ and CCV when AB’ed with his Uber, but there was less overlap in tone with those amps

I thought his Uber Rev B and Rev F Dual Rectifier both sounded very good, but when I compared them with my IIC+ and Atomica I had at the time I felt that they wouldn’t be keepers if I were to own either. I did want his Jose for a while though. I sold though my Atomica and Aldrich modded Marshall’s since getting my Blueface VH4
 
On a side note, played the Uber module through my Synergy sny30 for a while tonight. Pretty badass! The different bright switches are supposed to mimic the different circuits of various Ubers. When I tuned to dropped D ( I know I'm old), it was nice, a lot of fun-much needed these days.
 
Nice Chad, I have an Uberschall module on the way and am stoked! While it won't be identical to the heads, I'm thinking it's still a tone worth having in the arsenal.
 
Eh, to each their own. I have owned two Rev green and a Twin Jet, still have my Rev F Recto. I always thought my Recto sounded meaner and more organic. The Ubers are cool amps but always seemed a bit messy with a weird high end thing going on, for me the boosted recto beat out all of them and cost me quite a bit less.
 
The Ubershall is a great amp. I just prefer the more raw aggressive voice of my Tremoverb. The Ubershall is smoother and more refined. I can definitely see why someone would like one or the other.
 
Mklane":3qgfz386 said:
Eh, to each their own. I have owned two Rev green and a Twin Jet, still have my Rev F Recto. I always thought my Recto sounded meaner and more organic. The Ubers are cool amps but always seemed a bit messy with a weird high end thing going on, for me the boosted recto beat out all of them and cost me quite a bit less.
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My findings seem to be opposite. When I played the Uber Rev2 against the Triple Rev C (a rev f Dual was modded by Mike B to a triple C...the rectifier tubes were removed for power tubes) the Uber just was bigger, more organic and easier to play. It is smoother, but the recto has that crazy crunchy buzzy high end that I find fatiguing. With a pedal, both are incredible, but the bogner high end is nicer. Keep in mind I removed a cap off of V1 on my Uber which added back in some high end and tightened up the amp.

Audio of my Uber with cap removed.
https://youtu.be/CYYiWaFIAvw
 
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