I seriously think the Budda SD80II is...

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Randy Van Sykes":3pykylwf said:
ejecta":3pykylwf said:
Randy Van Sykes":3pykylwf said:
That's great to be digging an amp that much.
Plug in...there's your tone...ahhhh. :thumbsup:

I know this sounds crazy, but the cheap Haze 40 combo is my tone exactly, it's got that tone I hear in my head, I totally dig it. :confused: :dunno: :worship:

I really want to check one of these out sometime. You've had some really nice amps and if this one is turning your crank it would be worth checking out.

With the boost engaged it has that really thick, organic Andy Timmons type of tone, it's really sings. The neck pickup sounds really sweet. It's like a cross between an old Marshall and a Lonestar. I think people are expecting the typical bright Marshall tone, like the more recent Marshalls and are thrown by it. Judging by the reviews at the Gear Page I must be one of the few that got a good one, or maybe I like bad tone. :lol: :LOL:

Sounds interesting. Yeah I got all kinds of shit for liking the Bogner Alchemist so I must like shitty tone as well. :lol: :LOL: Dude mass produced tube amps have a much higher rate of getting one biased too cold or with bad tubes or just plain ol' bad amps. Odds are greater in higher numbers. To be honest I have had as much trouble with "boutique" amps as I've had with mass produced amps. Add to that the whole in store tire kicking of said amps at low volumes and just the plain ol' bias against overseas production you can't really go by public opinion. If you try an amp and dig it...then play it and screw the internet crowd.
 
ejecta":od3f1ggv said:
Sounds interesting. Yeah I got all kinds of shit for liking the Bogner Alchemist so I must like shitty tone as well. :lol: :LOL: Dude mass produced tube amps have a much higher rate of getting one biased too cold or with bad tubes or just plain ol' bad amps. Odds are greater in higher numbers. To be honest I have had as much trouble with "boutique" amps as I've had with mass produced amps. Add to that the whole in store tire kicking of said amps at low volumes and just the plain ol' bias against overseas production you can't really go by public opinion. If you try an amp and dig it...then play it and screw the internet crowd.
That's a funny one too, people liked the Alchemist or thought is was the worst amp ever. How can it sound so good and so bad to people.
Reviews are useless eh. I've never bought an amp I didn't play and like first...except for the Bad Cat I bought off ratter, but Steven Wilson uses a Bad Cat and I'm a fan boy. It's my little Steven Wilson amp and I only play Steven Wilson songs on it.:D
 
Randy Van Sykes":2ndfec8h said:
ejecta":2ndfec8h said:
Sounds interesting. Yeah I got all kinds of shit for liking the Bogner Alchemist so I must like shitty tone as well. :lol: :LOL: Dude mass produced tube amps have a much higher rate of getting one biased too cold or with bad tubes or just plain ol' bad amps. Odds are greater in higher numbers. To be honest I have had as much trouble with "boutique" amps as I've had with mass produced amps. Add to that the whole in store tire kicking of said amps at low volumes and just the plain ol' bias against overseas production you can't really go by public opinion. If you try an amp and dig it...then play it and screw the internet crowd.
That's a funny one too, people liked the Alchemist or thought is was the worst amp ever. How can it sound so good and so bad to people.
Reviews are useless eh. I've never bought an amp I didn't play and like first...except for the Bad Cat I bought off ratter, but Steven Wilson uses a Bad Cat and I'm a fan boy. It's my little Steven Wilson amp and I only play Steven Wilson songs on it.:D

There's something about Bogner where you either love it or you hate it... Was the Alchemist darkish?
 
I played a SD30 for the first time today and was highly impressed. Stupid easy to dial in a good tone. Yeah, it wouldn't be my go to for chug-a-chug stuff, but for leads and cleans it had such a cool feel. I bet the SD80 kills!
 
fearhk213":3rbmelcm said:
I played a SD30 for the first time today and was highly impressed. Stupid easy to dial in a good tone. Yeah, it wouldn't be my go to for chug-a-chug stuff, but for leads and cleans it had such a cool feel. I bet the SD80 kills!

With a boost, it kills for 80's metal.
 
Vrad":fea6zmb5 said:
Randy Van Sykes":fea6zmb5 said:
ejecta":fea6zmb5 said:
Sounds interesting. Yeah I got all kinds of shit for liking the Bogner Alchemist so I must like shitty tone as well. :lol: :LOL: Dude mass produced tube amps have a much higher rate of getting one biased too cold or with bad tubes or just plain ol' bad amps. Odds are greater in higher numbers. To be honest I have had as much trouble with "boutique" amps as I've had with mass produced amps. Add to that the whole in store tire kicking of said amps at low volumes and just the plain ol' bias against overseas production you can't really go by public opinion. If you try an amp and dig it...then play it and screw the internet crowd.
That's a funny one too, people liked the Alchemist or thought is was the worst amp ever. How can it sound so good and so bad to people.
Reviews are useless eh. I've never bought an amp I didn't play and like first...except for the Bad Cat I bought off ratter, but Steven Wilson uses a Bad Cat and I'm a fan boy. It's my little Steven Wilson amp and I only play Steven Wilson songs on it.:D

There's something about Bogner where you either love it or you hate it... Was the Alchemist darkish?

I agree Bogner has a certain voice to it and some like it and some dont. No I dont find them dark at all.
 
ejecta":2u1mnkym said:
Vrad":2u1mnkym said:
Randy Van Sykes":2u1mnkym said:
ejecta":2u1mnkym said:
Sounds interesting. Yeah I got all kinds of shit for liking the Bogner Alchemist so I must like shitty tone as well. :lol: :LOL: Dude mass produced tube amps have a much higher rate of getting one biased too cold or with bad tubes or just plain ol' bad amps. Odds are greater in higher numbers. To be honest I have had as much trouble with "boutique" amps as I've had with mass produced amps. Add to that the whole in store tire kicking of said amps at low volumes and just the plain ol' bias against overseas production you can't really go by public opinion. If you try an amp and dig it...then play it and screw the internet crowd.
That's a funny one too, people liked the Alchemist or thought is was the worst amp ever. How can it sound so good and so bad to people.
Reviews are useless eh. I've never bought an amp I didn't play and like first...except for the Bad Cat I bought off ratter, but Steven Wilson uses a Bad Cat and I'm a fan boy. It's my little Steven Wilson amp and I only play Steven Wilson songs on it.:D

There's something about Bogner where you either love it or you hate it... Was the Alchemist darkish?

I agree Bogner has a certain voice to it and some like it and some dont. No I dont find them dark at all.

I didn't think the Bogner XTC Classic I owned was dark at all. But yeah, it has this voicing that you either love or hate.
 
Vrad":1dpax093 said:
ejecta":1dpax093 said:
Vrad":1dpax093 said:
Randy Van Sykes":1dpax093 said:
ejecta":1dpax093 said:
Sounds interesting. Yeah I got all kinds of shit for liking the Bogner Alchemist so I must like shitty tone as well. :lol: :LOL: Dude mass produced tube amps have a much higher rate of getting one biased too cold or with bad tubes or just plain ol' bad amps. Odds are greater in higher numbers. To be honest I have had as much trouble with "boutique" amps as I've had with mass produced amps. Add to that the whole in store tire kicking of said amps at low volumes and just the plain ol' bias against overseas production you can't really go by public opinion. If you try an amp and dig it...then play it and screw the internet crowd.
That's a funny one too, people liked the Alchemist or thought is was the worst amp ever. How can it sound so good and so bad to people.
Reviews are useless eh. I've never bought an amp I didn't play and like first...except for the Bad Cat I bought off ratter, but Steven Wilson uses a Bad Cat and I'm a fan boy. It's my little Steven Wilson amp and I only play Steven Wilson songs on it.:D

There's something about Bogner where you either love it or you hate it... Was the Alchemist darkish?

I agree Bogner has a certain voice to it and some like it and some dont. No I dont find them dark at all.

I didn't think the Bogner XTC Classic I owned was dark at all. But yeah, it has this voicing that you either love or hate.

Oh I've played some 101b's that were dark sounding but you are right about the Classic.. I had one and it wasnt dark to me at all. IMHO neither are the Alchemists or the new Shivas and XTCs.
 
ejecta":2nnabo9q said:
Vrad":2nnabo9q said:
ejecta":2nnabo9q said:
Vrad":2nnabo9q said:
Randy Van Sykes":2nnabo9q said:
ejecta":2nnabo9q said:
Sounds interesting. Yeah I got all kinds of shit for liking the Bogner Alchemist so I must like shitty tone as well. :lol: :LOL: Dude mass produced tube amps have a much higher rate of getting one biased too cold or with bad tubes or just plain ol' bad amps. Odds are greater in higher numbers. To be honest I have had as much trouble with "boutique" amps as I've had with mass produced amps. Add to that the whole in store tire kicking of said amps at low volumes and just the plain ol' bias against overseas production you can't really go by public opinion. If you try an amp and dig it...then play it and screw the internet crowd.
That's a funny one too, people liked the Alchemist or thought is was the worst amp ever. How can it sound so good and so bad to people.
Reviews are useless eh. I've never bought an amp I didn't play and like first...except for the Bad Cat I bought off ratter, but Steven Wilson uses a Bad Cat and I'm a fan boy. It's my little Steven Wilson amp and I only play Steven Wilson songs on it.:D

There's something about Bogner where you either love it or you hate it... Was the Alchemist darkish?

I agree Bogner has a certain voice to it and some like it and some dont. No I dont find them dark at all.

I didn't think the Bogner XTC Classic I owned was dark at all. But yeah, it has this voicing that you either love or hate.

Oh I've played some 101b's that were dark sounding but you are right about the Classic.. I had one and it wasnt dark to me at all. IMHO neither are the Alchemists or the new Shivas and XTCs.
I actually liked the 101Bs better oddly enough.
 
Vrad":38b0fofd said:
ejecta":38b0fofd said:
Vrad":38b0fofd said:
ejecta":38b0fofd said:
Vrad":38b0fofd said:
Randy Van Sykes":38b0fofd said:
ejecta":38b0fofd said:
Sounds interesting. Yeah I got all kinds of shit for liking the Bogner Alchemist so I must like shitty tone as well. :lol: :LOL: Dude mass produced tube amps have a much higher rate of getting one biased too cold or with bad tubes or just plain ol' bad amps. Odds are greater in higher numbers. To be honest I have had as much trouble with "boutique" amps as I've had with mass produced amps. Add to that the whole in store tire kicking of said amps at low volumes and just the plain ol' bias against overseas production you can't really go by public opinion. If you try an amp and dig it...then play it and screw the internet crowd.
That's a funny one too, people liked the Alchemist or thought is was the worst amp ever. How can it sound so good and so bad to people.
Reviews are useless eh. I've never bought an amp I didn't play and like first...except for the Bad Cat I bought off ratter, but Steven Wilson uses a Bad Cat and I'm a fan boy. It's my little Steven Wilson amp and I only play Steven Wilson songs on it.:D

There's something about Bogner where you either love it or you hate it... Was the Alchemist darkish?

I agree Bogner has a certain voice to it and some like it and some dont. No I dont find them dark at all.

I didn't think the Bogner XTC Classic I owned was dark at all. But yeah, it has this voicing that you either love or hate.

Oh I've played some 101b's that were dark sounding but you are right about the Classic.. I had one and it wasnt dark to me at all. IMHO neither are the Alchemists or the new Shivas and XTCs.
I actually liked the 101Bs better oddly enough.

The 101b's I liked the most were ones that were later models. The ones that to me were dark were pre 2005.
 
ejecta":1h41d7ki said:
Vrad":1h41d7ki said:
ejecta":1h41d7ki said:
Vrad":1h41d7ki said:
ejecta":1h41d7ki said:
Vrad":1h41d7ki said:
Randy Van Sykes":1h41d7ki said:
ejecta":1h41d7ki said:
Sounds interesting. Yeah I got all kinds of shit for liking the Bogner Alchemist so I must like shitty tone as well. :lol: :LOL: Dude mass produced tube amps have a much higher rate of getting one biased too cold or with bad tubes or just plain ol' bad amps. Odds are greater in higher numbers. To be honest I have had as much trouble with "boutique" amps as I've had with mass produced amps. Add to that the whole in store tire kicking of said amps at low volumes and just the plain ol' bias against overseas production you can't really go by public opinion. If you try an amp and dig it...then play it and screw the internet crowd.
That's a funny one too, people liked the Alchemist or thought is was the worst amp ever. How can it sound so good and so bad to people.
Reviews are useless eh. I've never bought an amp I didn't play and like first...except for the Bad Cat I bought off ratter, but Steven Wilson uses a Bad Cat and I'm a fan boy. It's my little Steven Wilson amp and I only play Steven Wilson songs on it.:D

There's something about Bogner where you either love it or you hate it... Was the Alchemist darkish?

I agree Bogner has a certain voice to it and some like it and some dont. No I dont find them dark at all.

I didn't think the Bogner XTC Classic I owned was dark at all. But yeah, it has this voicing that you either love or hate.

Oh I've played some 101b's that were dark sounding but you are right about the Classic.. I had one and it wasnt dark to me at all. IMHO neither are the Alchemists or the new Shivas and XTCs.
I actually liked the 101Bs better oddly enough.

The 101b's I liked the most were ones that were later models. The ones that to me were dark were pre 2005.
I like the older ones. I liked the compression and the low-mids.
 
Have you played the SD II with the band yet?

I used to own a SDII 30 which was great at home and recording, but got drowned out with the band big time, just didn't cut through. Still loved the amp for what it was.
 
Played an SD80II when I was upgrading amps...really liked it but it was the loudest amp I ever played....a micro knob turn between 1 and 1.2 of volume was like going from very loud to 4 horsemen of the apocalypse super loud.....not idiot proof enough when playing a gig.....for me....at that point an attenuator wasnt an option for $$$ related reasons.

But i did love the amp though even though I couldn't make it sound like the dude in the clips!
 
hunter":2qu4rxix said:
Have you played the SD II with the band yet?

I used to own a SDII 30 which was great at home and recording, but got drowned out with the band big time, just didn't cut through. Still loved the amp for what it was.

I don't play in a band, but I haven't tried it with another guitarist yet. The SD80 is LOUD! So unless its eq'd funny, I can't see how it would get drowned out.
 

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