ICE, ICE, baby

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rsm said:
well a new ICE deportation holding facility will create all kinds of jobs
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Man the community boards would be on fire if something like that came in around here lol. We are still arguing over a 4 year old traffic circle that was installed
 
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Floyd Eye said:
You’re so wrapped up in your little fantasy world that you’ve convinced yourself everyone making fun of you means you’re popular. Let me clarify. You’re not popular Dan, you’re a douche. Making fun of you is popular.
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I think maybe he has CharvelDan syndrome. Only @Dan_Gleesack is more educated. Where you post ridiculous stuff even though you know you will be made fun of. It's narcissism. When I told Donnie B. (RIP) the same thing he PM'd me and apologized and said that I was correct and that he would try harder :dunno:


NowYou'rePlayingWithPower said:
What's the straight up written law? Can you cite or link it? Here's some immigration attorneys' interpretation, but I'm sure your law degree and vast knowledge of what is or isn't a crime is much higher than theirs:

18 U.S.C. § 1325 addresses illegal entry by aliens into the United States, making it a crime for individuals to enter or attempt to enter the country at unauthorized times or places, or to evade inspection by immigration officials. Penalties can include fines and imprisonment for up to six months for first offenses.

Improper presence: If ICE arrests a person who has been in the U.S. for many years without committing any misdemeanors or felonies, but cannot provide evidence of legal status, they will likely face charges of civil violation of immigration law rather than criminal charges (It's still a crime and at the discretion of the prosecution or judge on how to charge it). The only time where charges cannot be escalated are when the person is caught while attempting to enter the U.S. otherwise the person would likely be charged with being “unlawfully present” in the United States. Other examples of unlawful presence leading to civil charges are overstaying a visa, violating the terms of a legal entry (e.g., working on a tourist visa), and remaining in the U.S. after being ordered to leave.


What about improper entry — to enter or attempt to enter the U.S. at a place other than a designated port of entry, elude examination or inspection by immigration officers, or attempt to enter or enter through false representations or concealment of facts. A first-time offense of improper entry is typically classified as a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine, imprisonment for up to 6 months, or both. If an individual has been previously convicted of improper entry, any subsequent offense is treated as a felony, subject to a fine or imprisonment for up to 2 years, or both.

A first-time illegal entry is a federal misdemeanor, punishable by a fine of up to $250 and a maximum jail sentence of six months. These cases are typically handled in magistrate courts, where proceedings move quickly. Some individuals receive only fines or time served, while others face incarceration, particularly if they attempted to evade law enforcement.


A conviction can result in prolonged stays in immigration detention while removal proceedings are pending. Federal prosecutors sometimes negotiate plea agreements that reduce penalties in exchange for voluntary departure. Enforcement strategies, such as Operation Streamline, have expanded criminal prosecutions for illegal entry in high-traffic border regions.

Repeat Offender Enhancements​


When a noncitizen reenters the U.S. after a prior removal, penalties escalate. A first offense is a misdemeanor, but repeat violations are felonies, leading to harsher legal consequences. This distinction is particularly relevant in regions with high rates of recidivism, where individuals often attempt multiple crossings due to personal, economic, or humanitarian reasons.


Federal agencies such as Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) track prior removals and use biometric data to identify repeat offenders. When apprehended, these individuals are often flagged for felony prosecution, leading to longer sentences. Prosecutors may also consider prior criminal convictions when determining charges.

TL;DR? Your feelings aren't the law.
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Thank you for posting that. Trump said he was going to clean house on this, and he was elected. So, he's cleaning house. There is an app for that. So in my opinion, if you came to the US illegally, (forget the reform shit right now - it is what it is) then you know you entered illegally and probably skipped your court date too. Then, you were provided an app as a no questions asked way to leave on your own. If you decide to stay anyway, then to me that is evading law enforcement - and therefore elevated from misdemeanor to a higher crime.







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So they were throwing water bottles at police or water bottles, ear plugs and face masks? :lol:


Dan Gleesak said:
Most of your posts do. Especially the pitiful ones that try and trap me with my own words lol. 95% of my notifications here are you and Floyd licking my balls. It’s weird bro
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It's weird that you keep pointing the finger back at everyone else and it is even more weird that you keep bringing up homosexual acts :dunno:

That, along with your new avatar, suggests maybe you should change your name to Dan Pee Sack :lol:
 
311boogieman said:
I think maybe he has CharvelDan syndrome. Only @Dan_Gleesack is more educated. Where you post ridiculous stuff even though you know you will be made fun of. It's narcissism. When I told Donnie B. (RIP) the same thing he PM'd me and apologized and said that I was correct and that he would try harder :dunno:
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I don’t think I’m smarter than everyone else. Everything I’ve been saying about the laws I am just repeating from the actual law. I’m literally quoting things that other people posted, and those same people are telling me I’m wrong lol.
 
And I just posted that if they think I’m wrong, please show me where what I said differs from the law, and so far it’s been crickets. Just a bunch of sackless shmucks unwilling to put their money where their mouths are.
 
Findthetone1 said:
I asked you to do that by answering a question, several times, and you ran off the playground like a little bitch pissing in your Underoos. :LOL:
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Dan Gleesak said:
And I just posted that if they think I’m wrong, please show me where what I said differs from the law, and so far it’s been crickets. Just a bunch of sackless shmucks unwilling to put their money where their mouths are.
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The actual law has been posted in this thread and several others by Lisa. Your interpretation of that law is what you posted. Not anything from the actual law. Unless you can show me in the law where committing a misdemeanor ( 1st offense) isn’t a crime. Then we can address what percent of the illegals in this country are not 1st time offenders.
 
Findthetone1 said:
I asked you to do that by answering a question, several times, and you ran off the playground like a little bitch pissing in your Underoos. :LOL:
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You asked me if i went to law school. You in no way showed me where something that someone else posted, contradicted my interpretation of it
 
Floyd Eye said:
The actual law has been posted in this thread and several others by Lisa. Your interpretation of that law is what you posted. Not anything from the actual law. Unless you can show me in the law where committing a misdemeanor ( 1st offense) isn’t a crime. Then we can address what percent of the illegals in this country are not 1st time offenders.
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I never said it wasn’t a crime. I said it was a misdemeanor and I said it didn’t warrant deportation. In fact I’ve said multiple times that this is bad because it opens up ICE level force for other misdemeanors
 
Dan Gleesak said:
I never said it wasn’t a crime. I said it was a misdemeanor and I said it didn’t warrant deportation. In fact I’ve said multiple times that this is bad because it opens up ICE level force for other misdemeanors
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Doesn’t warrant deportation is your opinion. It’s not “ right there in the law”. Being here illegally warrants deportation. And it’s ridiculous to argue otherwise. What moron would think the law says you can sneak in, get caught, get sent to court and then just stay ? That’s fucking retarded.
 
Floyd Eye said:
Doesn’t warrant deportation is your opinion. It’s not “ right there in the law”. Being here illegally warrants deportation. And it’s ridiculous to argue otherwise. What moron would think the law says you can sneak in, get caught, get sent to court and then just stay ? That’s fucking retarded.
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Yes, it is right there. That’s why I said it does not mention deportation until it reaches the “multiple offenses” section or whatever it is called
 
Laputan Machine said:
Bro
the crime is literally being here illegally
the fix is obviously deportation since that remedies what has been done illegally
how is your brain that fucking gay>?
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Because that isn’t how the law is written. Read what Lisa posted, please. This shit isn’t just my opinion.
 
Dan Gleesak said:
Yes, it is right there. That’s why I said it does not mention deportation until it reaches the “multiple offenses” section or whatever it is called
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I see. So immigration law says that anyone who makes it across the border gets to stay huh ? That’s your argument ? 🤣🤣🤣
 
Floyd Eye said:
Doesn’t warrant deportation is your opinion. It’s not “ right there in the law”. Being here illegally warrants deportation. And it’s ridiculous to argue otherwise. What moron would think the law says you can sneak in, get caught, get sent to court and then just stay ? That’s fucking retarded.
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So whenever you want to point out in the law that Lisa posted, or anywhere else for that matter, that deportation is a penalty for simply crossing illegally, I am all ears.
Multiple times? Sure. But just being here undocumented?

I’ll wait.

Until then, you are completely the self proclaimed fucking retard
 
8 U.S.C. § 1325

"Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both."

Does it say they aren't allowed to be deported? Since they are not US citizens, do we even need to write laws regarding what to do or what not to do with them?
 
Dan Gleesak said:
So whenever you want to point out in the law that Lisa posted, or anywhere else for that matter, that deportation is a penalty for simply crossing illegally, I am all ears.
Multiple times? Sure. But just being here undocumented?

I’ll wait.

Until then, you are completely the self proclaimed fucking retard
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Ha ha. Whatever you gotta tell yourself dumbass.

Being here illegally is cause for deportation, period.
 
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