Is the the JVM that bad???

[War Admiral]

Thinking of picking one up here locally...gonna try it Thursday....its the 210H model...

 

[jsp]

Who says they're bad? I dig 'em.

 

[War Admiral]

Well I did some searches here and on the gearpage and theres a lot of negative comments....just sayin

 

[Beyond Black]

I borrowed my buddy's and played it at home through a Splawn cab with Greenbacks. Didn't dig it. Very loose and flubby. Heard it at my buddy's house through his Marshall cab (V30's or G12T-75's, don't remember) and it sounded killer. Made all the difference in the world. I don't think that amp likes GB's very much. Cool amp with the right cab.

 

[War Admiral]

I borrowed my buddy's and played it at home through a Splawn cab with Greenbacks. Didn't dig it. Very loose and flubby. Heard it at my buddy's house through his Marshall cab (V30's or G12T-75's, don't remember) and it sounded killer. Made all the difference in the world. I don't think that amp likes GB's very much. Cool amp with the right cab.

Cool...that's what im talking about...I have a 2X12 with V30's here that Ill try it out with. I just heard so much crap about this amp and it made me hesitant.

 

[Beyond Black]

I borrowed my buddy's and played it at home through a Splawn cab with Greenbacks. Didn't dig it. Very loose and flubby. Heard it at my buddy's house through his Marshall cab (V30's or G12T-75's, don't remember) and it sounded killer. Made all the difference in the world. I don't think that amp likes GB's very much. Cool amp with the right cab.

Cool...that's what im talking about...I have a 2X12 with V30's here that Ill try it out with. I just heard so much crap about this amp and it made me hesitant.

I wish I could remember which speakers my buddy's cab had, because V30's and 75's midranges are pretty much opposites. I'm pretty sure that they were the 75's because that's what the accompanying cab has and he bought them together.

 

[RedB4Black]

I have a JVM 210H. Killer amp. I'd rather have it than many of the "boutique" amps I've owned that cost a lot more.

 

[War Admiral]

I have a JVM 210H. Killer amp. I'd rather have it than many of the "boutique" amps I've owned that cost a lot more.

Did you snip the bright cap? Install a choke? Stock? I heard all kinds of things...fizzy because of the cap...the feel of the amp because of the choke...cork sniffer stuff I guess

What speakers are you running?

 

[RedB4Black]

I have a JVM 210H. Killer amp. I'd rather have it than many of the "boutique" amps I've owned that cost a lot more.

Did you snip the bright cap? Install a choke? Stock? I heard all kinds of things...fizzy because of the cap...the feel of the amp because of the choke...cork sniffer stuff I guess

What speakers are you running?

I had a modded JVM 410 (choke/MM OT) once that was awesome. I was stupid to sell it. My 210 is all stock and sounds great as is. I may do the choke mod on it, since that fairly cheap and easy, but I haven't really felt the need. I have 2 Mills Acoustics Afterburner cabs with Scumback H55/H75LHDC speakers.

 

[Black Sabbath]

Well I did some searches here and on the gearpage and theres a lot of negative comments....just sayin

Dood, word is they suck!

Don’t shoot the messenger . . .

Check it out!

 

[thiswaythatway]

They have a lot of gain. But I just don't like them. The last time I really spent some time with the JVM I was going back and fourth with a Mesa Royal Atlantic. I liked the Royal more, it had less gain but had better tone IMHO.

 

[jabps]

First and foremost I don't come from the world that if I don't like something it sucks...it just means it didn't work for me.

The JVM though...yeah, it works for me. I haven't truly wanted another amp since I bought mine when they first came out. Lots of things that interest me but this amp has more or less killed my GAS barring the Friedman Steve Stevens Model or possibly the new PRS amp. Literally the only thing I've done is change tubes when needed. Never had any issues with squealing nor do I use a noise gate. Stock no mods.

The JMV loves 75's. Before I bought the amp 75's never worked for me with any other amp I owned...with JVM, different story.
V'30's sound good as well. My two cabs are an old Marshall 4x12 with 75's and a Bogner OS 2x12 with V30's...sounds great with both. As someone said above about GB's...in the past with other amps it's been one of my favorite speakers but not with the JVM.

Personally...cleans are great, Crunch Mode is cool...great channel to run an OD pedal if you want. However OD1 mode...that alone is worth owning the amps. I really never get into OD2 at live or recording volumes. Fun to play at low volumes. Full midi, great loop...running with my GCX system, it does everything I've ever needed in an amp. My last two amp purchases were the SigX and the JVM...liked them both and literally couldn't decided unless I lived with both for a bit. I kept the JVM. I also prefer the standard JVM over the Satch model...although I would like to spend more time with it.

Put a lot of miles on mine...at one point 160+ gigs in 18 months...along with rehearsals, studio...never had a problem. Knock on wood.

Like any amp...it'll either work for you or it won't.

 

[rockgeek]

not going to comment. it's just not the right one for me.personal choice is subjective.

 

[lolzgreg]

They are inconsistent IME. I have owned three of them, two of which were back to back (cosmetic issues with the former). I was lucky to get stuck with the one that sounded better. It has a phenomenal clean, really good crunch sounds, and can do the "pushed 800" sound AND modern metal sounds extremely well. The OD2 red sounds ALMOST identical to a 6505 lead channel (they feel a bit different though), and definitely has more gain. I did some recorded clips the other day and picked the JVM over the 6505 for heavy rhythms because I could scoop the mids out a bit more.

Here is a quick clip. This is completely raw, single SM57, straight into the amp, OD2 orange with the gain at around 10 o'clock:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/156 ... %20Raw.wav

 

[BYTOR]

Here is a quick clip. This is completely raw, single SM57, straight into the amp, OD2 orange with the gain at around 10 o'clock:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/156 ... %20Raw.wav

That clip sounds great!!!

 

[guitarmike]

First and foremost I don't come from the world that if I don't like something it sucks...it just means it didn't work for me.

The JVM though...yeah, it works for me. I haven't truly wanted another amp since I bought mine when they first came out. Lots of things that interest me but this amp has more or less killed my GAS barring the Friedman Steve Stevens Model or possibly the new PRS amp. Literally the only thing I've done is change tubes when needed. Never had any issues with squealing nor do I use a noise gate. Stock no mods.

The JMV loves 75's. Before I bought the amp 75's never worked for me with any other amp I owned...with JVM, different story.
V'30's sound good as well. My two cabs are an old Marshall 4x12 with 75's and a Bogner OS 2x12 with V30's...sounds great with both. As someone said above about GB's...in the past with other amps it's been one of my favorite speakers but not with the JVM.

Personally...cleans are great, Crunch Mode is cool...great channel to run an OD pedal if you want. However OD1 mode...that alone is worth owning the amps. I really never get into OD2 at live or recording volumes. Fun to play at low volumes. Full midi, great loop...running with my GCX system, it does everything I've ever needed in an amp. My last two amp purchases were the SigX and the JVM...liked them both and literally couldn't decided unless I lived with both for a bit. I kept the JVM. I also prefer the standard JVM over the Satch model...although I would like to spend more time with it.

Put a lot of miles on mine...at one point 160+ gigs in 18 months...along with rehearsals, studio...never had a problem. Knock on wood.

Like any amp...it'll either work for you or it won't.

I gigged the first version 410 for 2+ years. It was deigned for G12 t75 speakers and sounds great with them. I had the same experience as everyone else, it sucked through greenbacks.

If the price is right, you can't lose.

 

[eddyrox]

I've owed 2 of the 410H's and now have a 410HJS (Satch) model.
It fucking SLAYS.

 

[jabps]

First and foremost I don't come from the world that if I don't like something it sucks...it just means it didn't work for me.

The JVM though...yeah, it works for me. I haven't truly wanted another amp since I bought mine when they first came out. Lots of things that interest me but this amp has more or less killed my GAS barring the Friedman Steve Stevens Model or possibly the new PRS amp. Literally the only thing I've done is change tubes when needed. Never had any issues with squealing nor do I use a noise gate. Stock no mods.

The JMV loves 75's. Before I bought the amp 75's never worked for me with any other amp I owned...with JVM, different story.
V'30's sound good as well. My two cabs are an old Marshall 4x12 with 75's and a Bogner OS 2x12 with V30's...sounds great with both. As someone said above about GB's...in the past with other amps it's been one of my favorite speakers but not with the JVM.

Personally...cleans are great, Crunch Mode is cool...great channel to run an OD pedal if you want. However OD1 mode...that alone is worth owning the amps. I really never get into OD2 at live or recording volumes. Fun to play at low volumes. Full midi, great loop...running with my GCX system, it does everything I've ever needed in an amp. My last two amp purchases were the SigX and the JVM...liked them both and literally couldn't decided unless I lived with both for a bit. I kept the JVM. I also prefer the standard JVM over the Satch model...although I would like to spend more time with it.

Put a lot of miles on mine...at one point 160+ gigs in 18 months...along with rehearsals, studio...never had a problem. Knock on wood.

Like any amp...it'll either work for you or it won't.

I gigged the first version 410 for 2+ years. It was deigned for G12 t75 speakers and sounds great with them. I had the same experience as everyone else, it sucked through greenbacks.

If the price is right, you can't lose.

Exactly right on the 75's. At the time I bought mine I had two Splawn 4x12's with a mix GB's and the 70th Anni's as well as a Marshall 4x12's with all GB's that had always been my recording cab....sold one of the Splawns, bought a Marshal with the 75's and never looked back. Eventually replaced the Splawns with another Marshall 4x12 loaded with 75's.

I've really enjoyed the JVM...had my main one (which I still have) and a backup (when I was doing alot of work) and neither ever gave me any problems. I've downsized quite a lot in the last few years but I'll always keep the JVM even if I move on to something else...and I've never been one to keep amps around just to have.

 

[zuel69]

Sounds great..

They are inconsistent IME. I have owned three of them, two of which were back to back (cosmetic issues with the former). I was lucky to get stuck with the one that sounded better. It has a phenomenal clean, really good crunch sounds, and can do the "pushed 800" sound AND modern metal sounds extremely well. The OD2 red sounds ALMOST identical to a 6505 lead channel (they feel a bit different though), and definitely has more gain. I did some recorded clips the other day and picked the JVM over the 6505 for heavy rhythms because I could scoop the mids out a bit more.

Here is a quick clip. This is completely raw, single SM57, straight into the amp, OD2 orange with the gain at around 10 o'clock:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/156 ... %20Raw.wav

 

[Gitfiddler]

I love the jvm. Don't judge it by bedroom volumes.