Is the USA bored of hard rock?

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hellaboogie":3875vdqy said:
everyone has a cell phone in their hands too busy texting or emailing at concerts
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This...

Even at parties. People are not socializing in the uncomfortable personal way.

How ironic is it that someone is at a party, updating their social media page with pictures of a party they are at, and not really socializing...
 
Heritage Softail":3totnqkj said:
But it is sad to see a guy that once listened to rock, listening to rap or techno.... or Coldplay.
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Or maybe he just has varied tastes in music. IMHO nothing at all wrong with that....... nor does it have any bearing on his manhood.
 
NOTHING is what it used to be. Personally, I'm glad I grew up in the 70's. From the clothes to music, and ways to have fun, I loved it.

The 80's brought MTV. Your fav artists no longer held an air of mystery. they were plastered in your face 24/7.
Technology (computers, phones, etc) made things even worse.

Last decade of music that held interest for me was the 80's. After that, you can keep it.
 
fender126":25d4d2ze said:
threadkiller":25d4d2ze said:
Rock is dead. The guitar is grandpa's instrument. Hip-hop/rap is what we've got now.
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This!

The American music scene seems dominated by teenie bopper acts and bullshit hip hop this and hip hop that. Just watch any of the music award shows (which I refuse to do). Not too mention the fascination and love affair with all these talent search shows like American Idol, The Voice and the X-Factor. All the stuff I and many of you grew up listening to or found themselves influenced by is disappearing. Each time we lose another rock and roll icon (Ronnie James Dio for example) it seems like for those of us that still want to carry the flame of rock and roll, we get one step closer to the end of the run.
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Things are changing right before our eyes. This fits right into the modeler debate we have on gear forums. The old way of music is dying. The days of having to be able to sing and play an instrument at a competent level are over. You will not need to know how your guitar reacts to a certain amp/speaker combination. The days of understanding every nuance of your gear is being traded for understanding how the computer program works and how to manipulate samples. If you look sell-able and will work for free, the music business wants you. They do not develop talent anymore, they have hired song writers, autotune for vocals, and studio musicians and computers for the instruments.

If the youth of tomorrow is lucky, there will be many small sub genres of music to listen to in the future and he/she can pick and choose from a limitless supply of music styles and schools of thought in regards to how music is created. The days of the Beatles, Stones, Led Zep, or even Metallica are over. Musicians will not get wealthy off of their music any more. If they are luck they will be able to exist on it. Most successful musicians of the future will work day jobs and do music as a hobby.

1966 - 1994 was the golden era of Rock and Roll. If you lived through any of it consider yourself lucky, if you participated you are luckier.
 
There is great rock/metal music out there, but not so much here in the US. As others have stated the US has been dominated by crap music like you see on AI, X factor, and the Disney shit!!! The golden era of rock is over and as Mike stated it was from around the time period of 1966-1994 or so. It is not just rock music that has declined, but good quality music in general. Plus, there is very little originality in music today.
 
I think those big stadium shows are pretty boring. I mean who here is going to go nuts screaming like a teenage girl seeing 60 year old dudes from a quarter mile away playing songs that have been drilled into your head for the past 30 years? That being said I saw Megadeth in a 1500 seat theater last month and you would think the roof was going to come off that fucker and people were going absolute batshit crazy,so I think the band and the venue makes a big difference.
 
There are plenty of good hard rock bands around and I think it's pretty easy to find them. My circle of friends send each other new bands we find on the web pretty regularly. That said I think we are more eclectic in our tastes vs what a majority here like which is absolutely fine.
 
LOL! Nice thread!

Have to say, any gig I ever went to in Ireland was full of Savages.....Im so proud!
 
D-Rock":1zxqerh4 said:
There is a definite sense of entitlement and desensitization with American audiences. It's sad and insulting to the artist.
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This.
 
As far as modern hard rock goes, unless you are into the 1 finger drop tuned no melody no fun modern stuff, then what is there to get excited about nowadays? I can't remember when I last wanted to learn some rock riffs & tunes like I used to all the time in the past.

The problem that modern rock/metal has and will continue to have is being an "Epic Fail" in comparison to the pure awesomeness of the rock/metal music from the mid '60s thru mid '90s!!!

Sure there are some cool sounding Lamb Of God riffs & others from the modern era, and some cool amp demo modern riffing, but the songs & so called singing are for the most part complete "Shit"!!!

My tastes go from Cream to Sabbath,Elton John, Zeppelin,Foreigner,TearsFor Fears,Rush,Bill Squire,Maiden,Priest,Metallica,Megadeth, Pat Benatar, Ozzy, Ratt, Scorpions, Cinderella, Bob Marley, The Cars, Gun's n Roses, Peter Gabriel, Prince, Genesis, Van Halen, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, Kiss, Stone Temple Pilots, Boston, Deep Purple, Dio, Rainbow,The Beatles, Hendrix, Satriani,Tool etc....
I could go on!! lol

The reason only old bands can pack arenas & modern rock is dead is beacuse the new shit is being judged by the awesome legacy of what came before. It doesn't even close to compare!

Foo Fighters are one of the only post mid '90s bands that stack up! My favorite newish records are Van Halen, Soundgarden & Deftones.

But I do like some modern rock/metal riff amp demos!!! They should release these to radio & stop trying to write songs!!! lol

I would rather watch Rihanna with Nuno, or Pink with her awesome guitarist than most any modern rock band you could mention.

I have spoken........lol
 
guitarmike":w9ptmsil said:
fender126":w9ptmsil said:
threadkiller":w9ptmsil said:
Rock is dead. The guitar is grandpa's instrument. Hip-hop/rap is what we've got now.
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This!

The American music scene seems dominated by teenie bopper acts and bullshit hip hop this and hip hop that. Just watch any of the music award shows (which I refuse to do). Not too mention the fascination and love affair with all these talent search shows like American Idol, The Voice and the X-Factor. All the stuff I and many of you grew up listening to or found themselves influenced by is disappearing. Each time we lose another rock and roll icon (Ronnie James Dio for example) it seems like for those of us that still want to carry the flame of rock and roll, we get one step closer to the end of the run.
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Things are changing right before our eyes. This fits right into the modeler debate we have on gear forums. The old way of music is dying. The days of having to be able to sing and play an instrument at a competent level are over. You will not need to know how your guitar reacts to a certain amp/speaker combination. The days of understanding every nuance of your gear is being traded for understanding how the computer program works and how to manipulate samples. If you look sell-able and will work for free, the music business wants you. They do not develop talent anymore, they have hired song writers, autotune for vocals, and studio musicians and computers for the instruments.

If the youth of tomorrow is lucky, there will be many small sub genres of music to listen to in the future and he/she can pick and choose from a limitless supply of music styles and schools of thought in regards to how music is created. The days of the Beatles, Stones, Led Zep, or even Metallica are over. Musicians will not get wealthy off of their music any more. If they are luck they will be able to exist on it. Most successful musicians of the future will work day jobs and do music as a hobby.

1966 - 1994 was the golden era of Rock and Roll. If you lived through any of it consider yourself lucky, if you participated you are luckier.
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Very well put. In a sense I completely understand the nature of the change that we have seen...I don't like it, but I understand it. It just disgusts me that with the exception of certain radio shows and other media outlets, coupled with guys like us on forums like these, the days you refer to above no longer get the respect they deserve; at least not fully. I suppose we get to look forward to something once a year with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductions. Let's just hope that in 20-30 years they don't sell out and induct the Justin Bieber's of the world!
 
BrokenFusion":36asy4z1 said:
I think those big stadium shows are pretty boring. I mean who here is going to go nuts screaming like a teenage girl seeing 60 year old dudes from a quarter mile away playing songs that have been drilled into your head for the past 30 years? That being said I saw Megadeth in a 1500 seat theater last month and you would think the roof was going to come off that fucker and people were going absolute batshit crazy,so I think the band and the venue makes a big difference.
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I agree that it all depends on the band. Back when record companies signed musicians who wrote great songs, it made people really want to see them live.

I saw U2 last summer in a stadium. That's the first time I've seen them since the Joshua Tree tour. It was incredible. Brought it all back, from a time when people wrote songs that mattered, that actually connected with people.
 
Honestly, you're going to the wrong shows. I've seen Soundgarden 3 times since the reunion. In this country, the majority of Soundgarden fans are in their 30's or more. I was 9 years old when they broke up or went on hiatus, depending on how you'd look at it. Maiden's fans are going to be, for the most part, even older.

But since that first Soundgarden show I saw in 2010, I've seen other bands like Red Fang, Veil of Maya, Dillinger Escape Plan, Mastodon, etc. People were getting wild at those shows. I literally got knocked out in a VoM mosh pit here in Chicago. Dillinger and Red Fang had so many people stage diving and just going off. Even InFlames and Lamb of God had some crowdsurfing and big pits going on, but for the most part that was pretty timid, but again these bands have been around for a good long time now and the crowds were well into their 20's and 30's.

I'm the son of immigrants (India). The Beatles were huge there into the '80's as somewhat "current" music. My cousin was born in 1980 and grew up with Bon Jovi as his favorite band by the time he moved here (1998). I think, in a lot of respects, non US and western Europe can be a little behind the times with what's going on here, and beyond that, hard rock concerts are a lot more scarce for them. Supply and demand... and since drinking age and less age restrictions overall encourage younger crowds, the result is generally a rowdier crowd.

Take tonight as an example... I saw Local H at a 300 top club. All ages show, but consider that Local H reached their peak of popularity between 10 and 15 years ago. I saw them a couple of times 10 years ago at the Metro (1400 top club)... and I remember those concerts being very energetic and absolutely packed. Mosh pits, and pretty much the whole floor was either pogoing or moshing. I don't slam dance anymore, but I did when I was younger. My body just can't handle elbows to my temple or spine like it could before.

The point is, the crazy, enthusiastic crowds still exist. Just don't expect them going out for bands that reached their peak 20 years ago. Red Fang, Veil of Maya, and Dillinger really had some crazy kids just going crazy. I didn't get involved, but it was great to see.
 
fender126":quqqijgv said:
threadkiller":quqqijgv said:
Rock is dead. The guitar is grandpa's instrument. Hip-hop/rap is what we've got now.
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This!

The American music scene seems dominated by teenie bopper acts and bullshit hip hop this and hip hop that. Just watch any of the music award shows (which I refuse to do). Not too mention the fascination and love affair with all these talent search shows like American Idol, The Voice and the X-Factor. All the stuff I and many of you grew up listening to or found themselves influenced by is disappearing. Each time we lose another rock and roll icon (Ronnie James Dio for example) it seems like for those of us that still want to carry the flame of rock and roll, we get one step closer to the end of the run.
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you also can't forget about the carbon copy format this already diluted music economy spews forth as soon as something is popular. it's predictable, boring and quite honestly, i just have quit caring about it.
 
What's wrong with moshing to AC/DC? I would go off my nut and mosh at an AC/DC gig. And I HAVE moshed off my nut at AC/DC gigs. All within the last 10 years.
 
All I know is our cover bands in the late 70's and 80's did not play music that was 30 years old.

Music should change hands every so often. This past decade and even more now is going retro. As much as I liked the 80's music I hate the direction.

I can only imagine if doo wop was a repeated scene when I was growing up. That would have sucked ass.

Its nice to be interested in music of the past, but reliving it for another decade or more is what has been wrong with creating new music.

I liked many 80's bands but these old bands touring dropping tuning to 1.5 steps down for their 55 year old vocal chords is just wrong.

I think it proved screamo and rap in modern metal was not the way to go.
 
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