Is this CS Fender Strat worth $4,160?

[thegame]

Buy one and drive away in your fine reliced automobile, because thats what you'll be driving after spending so much money on such nonsense guitars.

 

[SLOgriff]

Buy one and drive away in your fine reliced automobile. Same shit.

DUDE!! Now that is funny!!!

 

[bigdaddyd]

30th Street guitars Rust series is where it's at. I bought one from Matt a few years back and it has been my number one ever since...and you guys know how much of a gear whore I am

http://www.30thstreetguitars.com/#/rust ... and-basses

Unless something changed recently, Matt doesn't even do his own finish work. He sends the guitars out of state. His stuff is good though. One of my favorite "relics" was a guitar he made years before he ever had the Rust line and would just lay around his shop. It was what I always played when I would demo stuff, but he would never sell it. I once needed something painted and thought of him and he told me that he doesn't finish anything and has to send his stuff out. I personally think his stuff his nice, but nowhere nice enough to justify those prices. I paid less for my 2 Andersons....just saying. You can essentially build or have the same stuff built from Jamerson, Warmoth and have it sent off to the painter/relicer of your choice for less. I mean, you can still bring it to Matt to have it set up and put together and have him work his mojo if you want. He definitely has skills. They just strike me as a lot of cash for parts o casters.

 

[NOE_1942]

OK, more stirring the pot threads. I love it.

Playing the devil's advocate here, regardless whether anyone likes it or wouldn't pay that much for it, you got to understand how they arrive at pricing. If the normal NOS CS Strat runs in the 3's, then you should be able to do a bit of math on a bar napkin and figure out that a guitar tech had to spend at least 20-30 hours on the relic process for the body and neck. It isn't done on a CNC machine. Those man-hours add up and add to the price. Cool guitar, but I wouldn't buy it. However, it is priced more than fair.

With that said, you should buy two of them Bryan.

I agree.... Buying a guitar like this is really more about buying a piece of art rather than a practical musical instrument.

 

[locoed]

I'd rather have a "Luxxtone"

 

[polaris20]

It's not that the price for the amount of work isn't fair, it's just that it's truly sad that someone's willing to spend that much on a relic in the first place. I've thought the relic thing was a stupid, poser idea from the beginning.

 

[Woodsie]

I played a CS Rory Gallagher Strat the other day. Just as Relic'd and right around the same price. It also had 5 Sprezels and a Klusion (i think) like Rory had. Nice player and sounded great but I wouldn't pay that for it.

 

[AmpliFIRE]

30th Street guitars Rust series is where it's at. I bought one from Matt a few years back and it has been my number one ever since...and you guys know how much of a gear whore I am

http://www.30thstreetguitars.com/#/rust ... and-basses

Unless something changed recently, Matt doesn't even do his own finish work. He sends the guitars out of state. His stuff is good though. One of my favorite "relics" was a guitar he made years before he ever had the Rust line and would just lay around his shop. It was what I always played when I would demo stuff, but he would never sell it. I once needed something painted and thought of him and he told me that he doesn't finish anything and has to send his stuff out. I personally think his stuff his nice, but nowhere nice enough to justify those prices. I paid less for my 2 Andersons....just saying. You can essentially build or have the same stuff built from Jamerson, Warmoth and have it sent off to the painter/relicer of your choice for less. I mean, you can still bring it to Matt to have it set up and put together and have him work his mojo if you want. He definitely has skills. They just strike me as a lot of cash for parts o casters.

I bought mine 5 years ago from Matt (for much less than today's internet price). He had a local NYC guy do the finish work (in nitro for the neck and body of course) and it is top notch work. I actually met the dude in person before I bought the guitar. Matt uses USA Custom parts which are a much better product than what Warmoth produces IMO. When I priced out all of the parts separately, I came up with $400 in assembly and finish work which made it a no brainer for me...

 

[bigdaddyd]

30th Street guitars Rust series is where it's at. I bought one from Matt a few years back and it has been my number one ever since...and you guys know how much of a gear whore I am

http://www.30thstreetguitars.com/#/rust ... and-basses

Unless something changed recently, Matt doesn't even do his own finish work. He sends the guitars out of state. His stuff is good though. One of my favorite "relics" was a guitar he made years before he ever had the Rust line and would just lay around his shop. It was what I always played when I would demo stuff, but he would never sell it. I once needed something painted and thought of him and he told me that he doesn't finish anything and has to send his stuff out. I personally think his stuff his nice, but nowhere nice enough to justify those prices. I paid less for my 2 Andersons....just saying. You can essentially build or have the same stuff built from Jamerson, Warmoth and have it sent off to the painter/relicer of your choice for less. I mean, you can still bring it to Matt to have it set up and put together and have him work his mojo if you want. He definitely has skills. They just strike me as a lot of cash for parts o casters.

I bought mine 5 years ago from Matt (for much less than today's internet price). He had a local NYC guy do the finish work (in nitro for the neck and body of course) and it is top notch work. I actually met the dude in person before I bought the guitar. Matt uses USA Custom parts which are a much better product than what Warmoth produces. When I priced out all of the parts separately, I came up with $400 in assembly and finish work which made it a no brainer for me...

I've been going to Matt forever, his skills are great. USA Custom is on par with Warmoth and Musikraft/Jamerson, no better. Don't kid yourself. He told me himself about the paint. Perhaps it was before your guy or after. It was a long time ago, and I really don't use him much anymore since he screwed me over. I've built a ton of guitars on par with his part wise and sometimes even brought them to him to have him do the final work if I ran out of time. He always loved them and couldn't understand why I wasn't buying them from him. The answer was I was doing it for $600 for the same shit he is charging $2200 for. Obviously I get to use used parts or whatever and he can't match that, nor do I expect him to, but even with new parts I could do it for about half, and that is priced at retail. He is a pretty good guy when he wants to be, but he really doesn't possess any magic. Parts are parts and any quality parts can be assembled by any quality tech.

 

[AmpliFIRE]

30th Street guitars Rust series is where it's at. I bought one from Matt a few years back and it has been my number one ever since...and you guys know how much of a gear whore I am

http://www.30thstreetguitars.com/#/rust ... and-basses

Unless something changed recently, Matt doesn't even do his own finish work. He sends the guitars out of state. His stuff is good though. One of my favorite "relics" was a guitar he made years before he ever had the Rust line and would just lay around his shop. It was what I always played when I would demo stuff, but he would never sell it. I once needed something painted and thought of him and he told me that he doesn't finish anything and has to send his stuff out. I personally think his stuff his nice, but nowhere nice enough to justify those prices. I paid less for my 2 Andersons....just saying. You can essentially build or have the same stuff built from Jamerson, Warmoth and have it sent off to the painter/relicer of your choice for less. I mean, you can still bring it to Matt to have it set up and put together and have him work his mojo if you want. He definitely has skills. They just strike me as a lot of cash for parts o casters.

I bought mine 5 years ago from Matt (for much less than today's internet price). He had a local NYC guy do the finish work (in nitro for the neck and body of course) and it is top notch work. I actually met the dude in person before I bought the guitar. Matt uses USA Custom parts which are a much better product than what Warmoth produces. When I priced out all of the parts separately, I came up with $400 in assembly and finish work which made it a no brainer for me...

I've been going to Matt forever, his skills are great. USA Custom is on par with Warmoth and Musikraft/Jamerson, no better. Don't kid yourself. He told me himself about the paint. Perhaps it was before your guy or after. It was a long time ago, and I really don't use him much anymore since he screwed me over. I've built a ton of guitars on par with his part wise and sometimes even brought them to him to have him do the final work if I ran out of time. He always loved them and couldn't understand why I wasn't buying them from him. The answer was I was doing it for $600 for the same shit he is charging $2200 for. Obviously I get to use used parts or whatever and he can't match that, nor do I expect him to, but even with new parts I could do it for about half, and that is priced at retail. He is a pretty good guy when he wants to be, but he really doesn't possess any magic. Parts are parts and any quality parts can be assembled by any quality tech.

I beg to differ re: USA Custom vs Warmoth...there are plenty of threads on that. Anyway, K-Line and Nash are both Partsocasters in the same vein of the Rust strats. Both of those guys have made a nice living selling a similar product. I think that Matt's is superior to theirs.

 

[stratotone]

I hate relic guitars... not honestly worn guitars, but faked ones.

Fingerboard wear is supposed to be from the fingers fretting notes for decades... so how did the 'fingerboard wear' end up past the 21st fret on this guitar?

 

['63-Strat]

I hate relic guitars... not honestly worn guitars, but faked ones.

Fingerboard wear is supposed to be from the fingers fretting notes for decades... so how did the 'fingerboard wear' end up past the 21st fret on this guitar?

I don't own any relics but I do own a CS closet classic tele and the nitro has all sorts of spider cracks etc. which I'm fine with and my strat has a bunch of wear but it's legit. I do think most CS fender stuff is really nice generally but definitely have to agree the fretboard wear above the 21st fret on that one made me go WTF? Also while I tried to do 9-46 for a couple weeks on that mahag CS charvel I bought, I setup it up for 10-52 in standard and much prefer it. For me a strat has to have a strat headstock which is one reason why I don't mind the charvel I'm sure these other boutique strats are nice in their own right but I've yet to play an anderson or suhr that made me go yep, that's the one. That said I buy used just about 100% of the time, I would never pay that much for anything that's not a vintage investment type instrument.

 

[Les Zombie]

so how many years and gigs would it take to get a new cs guitar to look like this???

reason i ask is because i played one of my zakk wylde les pauls for 11 years and never babied it and i played gigs with it and it never weather checked or got nowhere near beatup to look like a relic, i personally love the relic look and i always see people saying that they will relic it themselves. so i wanna know does it take 10,000 gigs or maybe 20 to 30 years to look like the heavy relic guitars fender is making. i dont have 20 yrs to wait and would rather just buy a relic but thats just me and most people dont think like me or like the same stuff as me.

 

[jsp]

I'd go for a Nash over that one...no doubt.

+1

 

[jlbaxe]

Shiny new chrome and plastic really stands out Want something done right ya gotta do it yourself

I don't think I ever saw a real guitar worn that much

I had an old Charvel that I use to shoot with a BB/Pellet gun when I got bored, also hit it with a chain a few times Sold it on evil bay years ago, still got more than I paid for it, the extra bb/pellet gave it TONE

 

[stratotone]

so how many years and gigs would it take to get a new cs guitar to look like this???

reason i ask is because i played one of my zakk wylde les pauls for 11 years and never babied it and i played gigs with it and it never weather checked or got nowhere near beatup to look like a relic, i personally love the relic look and i always see people saying that they will relic it themselves. so i wanna know does it take 10,000 gigs or maybe 20 to 30 years to look like the heavy relic guitars fender is making. i dont have 20 yrs to wait and would rather just buy a relic but thats just me and most people dont think like me or like the same stuff as me.

A new guitar? With poly finish, never. With nitro, several decades outside in all sorts of extreme weather.

Different strokes for different folks. I still think most relics look fake though, especially the neck wear patterns. Also, the hardware is WAY too shiny - not just the bridge, but look at the jack plate - it's brand new looking, the rest of the guitar looks like a tornado hit it. It should at least have some rust/wear too.

 

[carlygtr]

Awesome $4160 recreation of a guitar gigged and dragged behind a truck since 1955!

 

[bigdaddyd]

30th Street guitars Rust series is where it's at. I bought one from Matt a few years back and it has been my number one ever since...and you guys know how much of a gear whore I am

http://www.30thstreetguitars.com/#/rust ... and-basses

Unless something changed recently, Matt doesn't even do his own finish work. He sends the guitars out of state. His stuff is good though. One of my favorite "relics" was a guitar he made years before he ever had the Rust line and would just lay around his shop. It was what I always played when I would demo stuff, but he would never sell it. I once needed something painted and thought of him and he told me that he doesn't finish anything and has to send his stuff out. I personally think his stuff his nice, but nowhere nice enough to justify those prices. I paid less for my 2 Andersons....just saying. You can essentially build or have the same stuff built from Jamerson, Warmoth and have it sent off to the painter/relicer of your choice for less. I mean, you can still bring it to Matt to have it set up and put together and have him work his mojo if you want. He definitely has skills. They just strike me as a lot of cash for parts o casters.

I bought mine 5 years ago from Matt (for much less than today's internet price). He had a local NYC guy do the finish work (in nitro for the neck and body of course) and it is top notch work. I actually met the dude in person before I bought the guitar. Matt uses USA Custom parts which are a much better product than what Warmoth produces. When I priced out all of the parts separately, I came up with $400 in assembly and finish work which made it a no brainer for me...

I've been going to Matt forever, his skills are great. USA Custom is on par with Warmoth and Musikraft/Jamerson, no better. Don't kid yourself. He told me himself about the paint. Perhaps it was before your guy or after. It was a long time ago, and I really don't use him much anymore since he screwed me over. I've built a ton of guitars on par with his part wise and sometimes even brought them to him to have him do the final work if I ran out of time. He always loved them and couldn't understand why I wasn't buying them from him. The answer was I was doing it for $600 for the same shit he is charging $2200 for. Obviously I get to use used parts or whatever and he can't match that, nor do I expect him to, but even with new parts I could do it for about half, and that is priced at retail. He is a pretty good guy when he wants to be, but he really doesn't possess any magic. Parts are parts and any quality parts can be assembled by any quality tech.

I beg to differ re: USA Custom vs Warmoth...there are plenty of threads on that. Anyway, K-Line and Nash are both Partsocasters in the same vein of the Rust strats. Both of those guys have made a nice living selling a similar product. I think that Matt's is superior to theirs.

That's cool. I don't need threads, I've owned and played them all. The top brands are all the same quality. If you prefer USA, then by all means, enjoy them. I like them all and have had and built excellent guitars from all brands. It is very rare, although quite possible to come across dogs from all of them. I have even had some good luck with some basic Allparts stuff. They stepped up their game. Not quite in the same league, but some aftermarket guys take that stuff and work their magic on it. I have a really nice boatneck Allparts that is awesome. It is sort of like an old Jeff Beck neck.

 

[steve_k]

so how many years and gigs would it take to get a new cs guitar to look like this???

reason i ask is because i played one of my zakk wylde les pauls for 11 years and never babied it and i played gigs with it and it never weather checked or got nowhere near beatup to look like a relic, i personally love the relic look and i always see people saying that they will relic it themselves. so i wanna know does it take 10,000 gigs or maybe 20 to 30 years to look like the heavy relic guitars fender is making. i dont have 20 yrs to wait and would rather just buy a relic but thats just me and most people dont think like me or like the same stuff as me.

A new guitar? With poly finish, never. With nitro, several decades outside in all sorts of extreme weather.

Different strokes for different folks. I still think most relics look fake though, especially the neck wear patterns. Also, the hardware is WAY too shiny - not just the bridge, but look at the jack plate - it's brand new looking, the rest of the guitar looks like a tornado hit it. It should at least have some rust/wear too.

Pete.....it looks so old that the previous owner you got it from had to replace the bridge and jack plate....