I've heard one blues song: I get it

[axemeaquestion]

rare, that first tune sounds like the ramblings of a senile guy using a newspaper to keep warm. I will say that I did find it difficult to jam along with. So in that sense, it's on a slightly higher plane than your average blues.

 

[axemeaquestion]

Go check out Freddie King then come back and we'll have a discussion about blues.

Assignment completed. His stuff is pretty much identical to most of the genre. Typical pentatonic noodling. However, the pained expression on his face when he bent that one note added a certain authenticity to the experience, although it did not in any way change the tone of the note he was playing.

How does one listen to that material more than one time and still get something out of it?

 

[King Guitar]

rare, that first tune sounds like the ramblings of a senile guy using a newspaper to keep warm. I will say that I did find it difficult to jam along with. So in that sense, it's on a slightly higher plane than your average blues.

 

[mboogman]

In my experience, people try to tear down what they cannot accomplish...

 

[Mr. Willy]

Congratulations! You've just won the dumbass post of the month award.

 

[rupe]

That's based on the premise that if you've heard one blues song, you've heard them all.

And it's pretty much true. I'll give you that SRV was tremendous and took the genre about as far as it could go, but beyond that, it's pretty much jamming and noodling.

Let's face it. You can pretty much play any blues song on your stereo (that's like an ipod for you younger shredders) and jam along with it immediately. If that's a feature of the music, then the music isn't very advanced, ergo, it's no good.

No, I'll take my Allan Holdsworth, thank you very much.

Congratulations! You've just won the dumbass post of the month award.

I second that...all in favor say

 

[axemeaquestion]

In my experience, people try to tear down what they cannot accomplish...

And I am quite certain your experience encompassed every case of that.

What's the first thing you learn after you get the open chords down? The pentatonic and blues scale.

What's the first solo you always learn? In The Mood by Rush which exclusively uses those scales.

If the beginners are learning that stuff, then why all the reverence for the 70 year old blues guy doing the same thing he did when he was 15?

Now, is a guy like Joe Bonamassa pushing the boundaries? Well, no, actually, he isn't. His songs are pretty boring, but he can wail and shred and he's got great tone. But the underlying music is coma inducing. Oh, but then Eric Clapton shows up on stage for one song with him and we all have to pretend to be in awe while he does his typical pentatonic noodling.

If Eric Clapton is God, then I'm the Holy Spirit.

 

[Mr. Willy]

In my experience, people try to tear down what they cannot accomplish...

And I am quite certain your experience encompassed every case of that.

What's the first thing you learn after you get the open chords down? The pentatonic and blues scale.

What's the first solo you always learn? In The Mood by Rush which exclusively uses those scales.

If the beginners are learning that stuff, then why all the reverence for the 70 year old blues guy doing the same thing he did when he was 15?

Now, is a guy like Joe Bonamassa pushing the boundaries? Well, no, actually, he isn't. His songs are pretty boring, but he can wail and shred and he's got great tone. But the underlying music is coma inducing. Oh, but then Eric Clapton shows up on stage for one song with him and we all have to pretend to be in awe while he does his typical pentatonic noodling.

If Eric Clapton is God, then I'm the Holy Spirit.

Please post your music.

 

[rupe]

In my experience, people try to tear down what they cannot accomplish...

And I am quite certain your experience encompassed every case of that.

What's the first thing you learn after you get the open chords down? The pentatonic and blues scale.

What's the first solo you always learn? In The Mood by Rush which exclusively uses those scales.

If the beginners are learning that stuff, then why all the reverence for the 70 year old blues guy doing the same thing he did when he was 15?

Now, is a guy like Joe Bonamassa pushing the boundaries? Well, no, actually, he isn't. His songs are pretty boring, but he can wail and shred and he's got great tone. But the underlying music is coma inducing. Oh, but then Eric Clapton shows up on stage for one song with him and we all have to pretend to be in awe while he does his typical pentatonic noodling.

If Eric Clapton is God, then I'm the Holy Spirit.

Please post your music.

Yes, please do. In the meantime, what do you consider to be "good" music?

 

[axemeaquestion]

rupe, there's tons of good music, most of it does not happen to be blues, however. I listen to stuff more on the progressive side and some of the older stuff like Rush, Zep, etc. Circa Survive, Deftones, etc. Used to love the instrumental guitar gods like Satriani but vocals do help make a song. Number one guy is definitely Holdsworth.

 

[Mr. Willy]

rupe, there's tons of good music, most of it does not happen to be blues, however. I listen to stuff more on the progressive side and some of the older stuff like Rush, Zep, etc. Circa Survive, Deftones, etc. Used to love the instrumental guitar gods like Satriani but vocals do help make a song. Number one guy is definitely Holdsworth.

If you've got the balls to so blatantly rip a genre, then you should have the stones to post your music so we can critique it. It's one thing to say you don't care for a style but ripping it like you do is immature and ignorant.

 

[axemeaquestion]

rupe, there's tons of good music, most of it does not happen to be blues, however. I listen to stuff more on the progressive side and some of the older stuff like Rush, Zep, etc. Circa Survive, Deftones, etc. Used to love the instrumental guitar gods like Satriani but vocals do help make a song. Number one guy is definitely Holdsworth.

If you've got the balls to so blatantly rip a genre, then you should have the stones to post your music so we can critique it. It's one thing to say you don't care for a style but ripping it like you do is immature and ignorant.

It takes balls to rip a genre? This is a discussion board. You're free to agree or disagree with my posts. You can even nominate me for worst thread ever.

I do ask that I be allowed to give a speech prior to any final decisions being made, however.

 

[Mr. Willy]

Still waiting for your music. Let's hear it. Wanna make sure it's super technical, ergo "good" music.

 

[Dallas Marlow]

+1 to Son House - it's pretty sad to insult someone as influential as him, you are only able to do this because you have centuries of musical influence and foundation that was given to you based upon the time period you were born, you can't judge past generations. It would be like driving a Ferrari by the man who invented the wheel and poking fun at him, your car can't travel on squares. I'm sure since you are so musically educated though I don't need to tell you the reason you can't play along with him is because the musical tempo is kept by a pulse with out any real thought of bar lines, quite a lot of early blues such as him and Robert Johnson often have odd meter bars, as well as phrases of blues that might be an extra bar or two, or possibly one less. They went by feel, not by some pre-arranged perfected written out pattern that has become today's version of 12 bar blues.

I think this guy is a troll because no one can possibly be as ignorant as to completely trash not only a genre but also the musical foundation for a significant portion of American music.

I find it absolutely mind boggling that you find it acceptable to label one genre of music with more validity simply based upon it's complexities.

I request that you keep your ignorance to your self however; as absurd as they may be this is America and thank god your allowed to have them.

 

[Dallas Marlow]

Still waiting for your music. Let's hear it. Wanna make sure it's super technical, ergo "good" music.

+1 to this, I would like to hear your original material.

 

[Sixtonoize]

If Eric Clapton is God, then I'm the Holy Spirit.

No way in hell that you can post shit like this without some serious evidence.

Ok...you can certainly post it, but everyone is going to be convinced that nothing you will ever possibly say will have the slightest shred of validity until you can back it up.

 

[155]

I doubt you will find anyone with any sort of musical knowledge agreeing with you here...even if you dont like blues you have to respect what it has done for the music YOU do like, meanwhile youve made yourself look like a fool amongst some pretty serious musicians and if you have half a sack youll post up some of your groundbreaking stuff...cant wait to hear it!

 

[Dallas Marlow]

I wonder if this is Carl?

 

[Motorpud]

If Eric Clapton is God, then I'm the Holy Spirit.

No way in hell that you can post shit like this without some serious evidence.

Ok...you can certainly post it, but everyone is going to be convinced that nothing you will ever possibly say will have the slightest shred of validity until you can back it up.

I've already considered him invalid

 

[Mr. Willy]

Bet you can't play and sing this note for note. See if you can put the pain and emotion into the vocals too. Come on, it's just pentatonic and blues scales, it's easy!