ccn
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Now that's a pinko to the core LOL. Polyamorous bisexual living with my wife and her boyfriend .
These types are a complete waste of human life .
These types are a complete waste of human life .
Artjr
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Just announced... All tapes being released to the public
SQUAREHEAD
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??
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Treeman
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Leave interpretation of the January 6 videos by Schumer or Carlson aside:
If in fact the videos showing the cops with the viking-horns guy were not provided to the defense prior to resolution of his case (his lawyer says they were not) then the DOJ has committed a Brady violation
that should result in a new trial for the defendant and a censure and possible loss of privileges for the DOJ lawyers that committed the infraction.
Odd that the ACLU and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers are not all over this. (sarcasm alert)
(says me, a 40 year criminal defense lawyer/former prosecutor both state and federal)
If in fact the videos showing the cops with the viking-horns guy were not provided to the defense prior to resolution of his case (his lawyer says they were not) then the DOJ has committed a Brady violation
that should result in a new trial for the defendant and a censure and possible loss of privileges for the DOJ lawyers that committed the infraction.
Odd that the ACLU and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers are not all over this. (sarcasm alert)
(says me, a 40 year criminal defense lawyer/former prosecutor both state and federal)
ccn
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I'm looking forward to it but I'll be shocked if "All" the tapes and video is released because some would completely destroy the main stream narrative. I don't trust McCarthy at all.
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tacoman98
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New trial? I'd think a full reversal.
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Treeman
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Yes - that's what I mean - reversal on appeal and a new trial - -
edited to add: or the court could grant a new trial, short of an appeal, based upon post-trial proceedings assuming the time limits for such have not run.
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Treeman
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I don't trust any of them - including Tucker Carlson - they are ALL lying performers of one sort or another.
If Carlson really cared about the truth getting out he would have released everything that he received first.
He could then talk about it all and edit it and do whatever show he wanted. But please spare me your your high-pitched whine about Schumer holding back the tapes ... while you run your show all the while holding back the rest of the tapes - because you can't let the pursuit of all important truth get in the way of you making another $.
That is why imho it is essential that the public gets the tapes. Let the public view them unedited by Carlson or anyone to decide.
T.V.
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Is it that the spacing makes it easy for you to focus on each word?
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Strandberg Junkie
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Last I checked defendants have been charged with an ACTUAL CRIME that was caught on video.
There-fore the only video of any importance to the trial is the stuff SHOWING THE CRIME.
Introduce him posing and smiling with a dozen cops. So what? Do any one of those clips erase
the crime caught on tape?
All this shit does is provide more carrots for you bunnies to chase after. McCarthy is catching more
and more heat every day in Washington for basically throwing new kindling on what was a smoldering
narrative. Other than the dozen or so MAGAtts in his caucus, the dude has zero actual credibility
anymore.
There-fore the only video of any importance to the trial is the stuff SHOWING THE CRIME.
Introduce him posing and smiling with a dozen cops. So what? Do any one of those clips erase
the crime caught on tape?
All this shit does is provide more carrots for you bunnies to chase after. McCarthy is catching more
and more heat every day in Washington for basically throwing new kindling on what was a smoldering
narrative. Other than the dozen or so MAGAtts in his caucus, the dude has zero actual credibility
anymore.
SQUAREHEAD
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No, you?
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YabbaDabbaDoo
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C'mon NumbNuts give it a rest, you're smart enough to realise AND accept the entire thing is a sham. Why be an argumentative contrary prick ALL the time?
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Treeman
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A video showing you walking out of a Walmart with a cart full of Depends "proves" the crime of shoplifting ...
until Walmart Manager Chuck Schumer releases the earlier video showing you at the check out making payment.
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YabbaDabbaDoo
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Hey NumbNuts, you've been Perry Masoned above. Now drop the sham and be an honest soul..........for at least a while.
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Strandberg Junkie
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What a stupid analogy. Let's try something a bit more apropos.
A: Surveillance tapes show you in employee's faces refusing to obey their instructions to stop advancing into off-limits areas.
Some different tapes show you trespassing in an EMPLOYEES ONLY area, disrupting an upper level management meeting in the process.
All of the store's employees had to be evacuated because of yours and others' actions.
You are being charged for these crimes.
B: 26 months later you find a bunch of tapes showing you strolling around the public areas of the store and even
stopping to have pleasant conversations with some workers.
You're simply an idiot if you think that B all of a sudden expunges A.
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YabbaDabbaDoo
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Is that YOU Judge Judy?
ccn
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If everything really gets released (Which I can never see happening because the ramifications for the FBI and politicians on both sides would be the end of them ) you will still never admit you were wrong . Will you admit you were dead wrong if you hear Pelosi herself on phone calls with Ray Epps instructing him what to do ? There are 6 to 7 phone calls between those two .
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Treeman
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Under the law the defendant would be entitled to show to the jury that despite what the prosecutor says the videos in A show,
the videos in B prove that you were not trespassing, rather, the workers invited you/gave you permission to be right where the prosecutor said was trespassing/employees only.
You see, in my example, the jury - (the American people?) not Adam Schiff or Chuck Schumer - sees both tapes at the trial (not 28 months of jail time later) and gets to decide.
Imagine that.
Brady v. Maryland, 373 U.S. 83 (1963)
PRIMARY HOLDINGThe government's withholding of evidence that is material to the determination of either guilt or punishment of a criminal defendant violates the defendant's constitutional right to due process.