Jb’s just don’t work for me..so let’s swap magnets 🧲!!

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mnemonic said:
My inspiration took me a different way today, I ended up instead swapping a double-thick ceramic into a 7 string JB, into an all mahogany guitar with maple top. Really happy with it so far, super hot, tight enough for me, and it has a ‘hairy’ and aggressive character that works well for this guitar as it’s natural sound is big and round but laid back in the mids and not that aggressive. I could see it being all brash mids and treble in a more balanced or brighter guitar.

Also did a fret level on a pine tele I built years ago but don’t play much since the fretwork sucked… I put a Dimarzio PAF 7 in the bridge, which doesn’t sound much like a PAF to me… it’s more ‘low output modern voiced’. Very clear and dry but lacking depth/oomph, and kinda plinky and shrill on the top end. I changed the ceramic (!) magnet for alnico V (out of the JB-7) and that makes it sound much more natural in the top end, and kinda fillled out the mids a bit. Now I’m tempted to put a nickel silver baseplate on it as all Dimarzio 7 and 8 string pickups have pcb material baseplates and as I understand it makes a difference to the sound.

I will probably do my PAF magnet swapping this weekend.
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Very cool!
 
JackBootedThug said:
I hate it. Always have. Completely irrational I know. If a guitar had one in it and I didn’t know it would probably be fine…. Maybe 🤔 I have only ever had one in superstrat guitar so… might kill in a Les Paul…
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It’s great man come on lol
 
MadAsAHatter said:
Another thing I just thought to keep in mind with pickup magnets. Rough cast vs polished, oriented vs unoriented of the same magnet type will have slightly different characteristics. If you're just experimenting to see how shit sounds it wouldn't hurt to play around with that as well.

I think @scottosan would be the guy to give you some good insight.
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Magnets change the tone in 2 ways. Each type has a different ferrous content making them have different inductance levels. The higher the inductance the lower the resonant peak A2 has a higher inductance than A4 and A5 and that’s why they sound meaty.

Ceramic has the lowest inductance and why they sound the brightest and scooped. That said, the stronger tha magnet the more highs and lows. This can be mitigated a little because you can bring an A2 closer to the strings without affecting the sustain
 
All my guitars have JB's in bridge. Some newer.... some old. I love them all but the older ones have more bite!
 
Black Winters, Distortions, and even Invaders are just JB magnet/pole swaps.
 
scottosan said:
Magnets change the tone in 2 ways. Each type has a different ferrous content making them have different inductance levels. The higher the inductance the lower the resonant peak A2 has a higher inductance than A4 and A5 and that’s why they sound meaty.

Ceramic has the lowest inductance and why they sound the brightest and scooped. That said, the stronger tha magnet the more highs and lows. This can be mitigated a little because you can bring an A2 closer to the strings without affecting the sustain
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@scottosan I've learned a lot about pickups from your posts. Much appreciated!
 
If Duncan is correct, the JB is the most popular pickup ever (but I'll bet it's the DiMarzio Super Distortion) and while others sound great with the JB, I can't gel with those things. I've tried. I had a new guitar with a JB. It was meh. Took it out and slapped a Duncan TB-5 Custom and for me, it was tons better.

But if I had to choose one desert island high output pickup, it'd be the DiMarzio EVO 2 (DP215). In fact, I need to get another one when I can afford it. Vai's tech said he used them on the Beat tour and his tone was just perfect IMO, and that he's still using them now. (Recent Premier Guitar interview)

The EVO 2 creates beautiful clean tones, too. And yes, I loves me sum KLEEN TOANZ. @VonBonfire and myself are working on opening @JackBootedThug's sonic vistas, but he's stubborn. Real stubborn. But he's out Bro and we love him, so we will go on until we persevere. We won't give up unit JBT loves KLEEN TOANZ. LMAO

Ain't that right, @VonBonfire?
 
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JohnnyGtar said:
If Duncan is correct, the JB is the most popular pickup ever (but I'll bet it's the DiMarzio Super Distortion) and while others sound great with the JB, I can't gel with those things. I've tried. I had a new guitar with a JB. It was meh. Took it out and slapped a Duncan TB-5 Custom and for me, it was tons better.

But if I had to choose one desert island high output pickup, it'd be the DiMarzio EVO 2 (DP215). In fact, I need to get another one when I can afford it. Vai's tech said he used them on the Beat tour and his tone was just perfect IMO, and that he's still using them now. (Recent Premier Guitar interview)

The EVO 2 creates beautiful clean tones, too. And yes, I loves me sum KLEEN TOANZ. @VonBonfire and myself are working on opening @JackBootedThug's sonic vistas, but he's stubborn. Real stubborn. But he's out Bro and we love him, so we will persevere. We won't give up unit JBT loves KLEEN TOANZ. LMAO

Ain't that right, @VonBonfire?
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Me and you need to road trip there one day and dunk him in one of those cool, clean, clear WV creeks until his tone reflects the sky blue waters of WV.

Super distortions kick ass in the bridge BTW and that's coming from a blues player. You can play just about anything with a SD in the bridge and the PAF type of your choice in the neck. Good morning brougham I hope you slept well. No mention of Dimarzio pickups would be complete without paging @Matt300ZXT because he is the Kimg of Dimarzio. The Dubble krEEm El Capitan of Rig Talk.:love:
 
VonBonfire said:
Me and you need to road trip there one day and dunk him in one of those cool, clean, clear WV creeks until his tone reflects the sky blue waters of WV.

Super distortions kick ass in the bridge BTW and that's coming from a blues player. You can play just about anything with a SD in the bridge and the PAF type of your choice in the neck. Good morning brougham I hope you slept well. No mention of Dimarzio pickups would be complete without paging @Matt300ZXT because he is the Kimg of Dimarzio. The Dubble krEEm El Capitan of Rig Talk.:love:
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Brutha, that sounds like a great idea, but @JackBootedThug is a big dude. We may have to slip him some tranquilizers beforehand so that we can baptize him into KLEEN TOANZ and then run like hell before the tranquilizers wear off! LOL
 
JohnnyGtar said:
Brutha, that sounds like a great idea, but JBT is a big dude. We may have to slip him some tranquilizers beforehand so that we can baptize him into KLEEN TOANZ and then run like hell before the tranquilizers wear off! LOL
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Just hypnotize him with some potential whoops I did it again gear trades and I'll tie his hands while he's distracted. :LOL:
 
@VonBonfire I can see it now: @JackBootedThug shouting "What's with all this KLEEN bullshit and what have you 2 sons of bitches done to my gain?!"
 
VonBonfire said:
Just hypnotize him with some potential whoops I did it again gear trades and I'll tie his hands while he's distracted. :LOL:
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JohnnyGtar said:
@VonBonfire I can see it now: @JackBootedThug shouting "What's with all this KLEEN bullshit and what have you 2 son of bitches done to my gain?!
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A fitting punishment for his attempts to ruin my love for baked beans. PEEEEOOOOOWWW!!! :LOL:
 
VonBonfire said:
Me and you need to road trip there one day and dunk him in one of those cool, clean, clear WV creeks until his tone reflects the sky blue waters of WV.

Super distortions kick ass in the bridge BTW and that's coming from a blues player. You can play just about anything with a SD in the bridge and the PAF type of your choice in the neck. Good morning brougham I hope you slept well. No mention of Dimarzio pickups would be complete without paging @Matt300ZXT because he is the Kimg of Dimarzio. The Dubble krEEm El Capitan of Rig Talk.:love:
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I am indeed the Kimg of DiMarzio, preaching the gospel of the dubbel kreems. I also dabble a bit in the zebras, but dubbel kreems is where it's at. You get that little bit of extra 815hz range that really set them apart from standard off the shelf pickups.
 
You boys going to West Vurgina? Be sure to pick me up on the way, I've only been through that state a little bit and wouldn't mind checking it out again. If y'all want clean tones, lets bring my rack gear and get those REALLY crystal clear cleans all those studio cats used in the 80s. We'll show that @JackBootedThug a thing or two about anti-gain, and I can use my kong few to subdue him.
 
Matt300ZXT said:
I am indeed the Kimg of DiMarzio, preaching the gospel of the dubbel kreems. I also dabble a bit in the zebras, but dubbel kreems is where it's at. You get that little bit of extra 815hz range that really set them apart from standard off the shelf pickups.
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You need to get an old dUbbLe krEEm and put it on a chain around your neck. The high priest-kimg of Dimarzio!!!
 
Matt300ZXT said:
You boys going to West Vurgina? Be sure to pick me up on the way, I've only been through that state a little bit and wouldn't mind checking it out again. If y'all want clean tones, lets bring my rack gear and get those REALLY crystal clear cleans all those studio cats used in the 80s. We'll show that @JackBootedThug a thing or two about anti-gain, and I can use my kong few to subdue him.
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