JCM800 clips - stock and MM tranny...

[Dale B]

If you crank your amp, yes, the OT will saturate.

But doesn't it have to be pretty muched dimed? I don't get the sense he had them dimed. Plus saturation and gain aren't the same thing.

Yep, you have to crank the hell out of some amplifiers, but that still depends on the design of the Output Transformer itself. Some Output Transformers are "under-spec'd", which means they will saturate much quicker than other Output Transformers. All of this factors into the design of the overall circuit.

Gain and Saturation aren't the same thing, but you have to have high volumes (gain) to create saturation or distortion. They work hand in hand with one another. People almost always use the term gain to describe distortion/saturation and I wouldn't ever fault anyone for that because a good bit of people describe this stuff in layman's terms.

 

[MARK1970]

I dont like to sound to direct and boring but the MM sounds just way better. LOL. Almost like you had a blanket over your amp for the first clip and then removed the blanket and recorded the next clip. The MM has sizzle and depth, it sounds much more quality. I had one of these amps btw, for like 3 years, I think the dagnalls sound alright but I totally heard the difference with that MM.

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[moronmountain]

If you crank your amp, yes, the OT will saturate.

But doesn't it have to be pretty muched dimed? I don't get the sense he had them dimed. Plus saturation and gain aren't the same thing.

Yep, you have to crank the hell out of some amplifiers, but that still depends on the design of the Output Transformer itself. Some Output Transformers are "under-spec'd", which means they will saturate much quicker than other Output Transformers. All of this factors into the design of the overall circuit.

Gain and Saturation aren't the same thing, but you have to have high volumes (gain) to create saturation or distortion. They work hand in hand with one another. People almost always use the term gain to describe distortion/saturation and I wouldn't ever fault anyone for that because a good bit of people describe this stuff in layman's terms.

I wasn't faulting anyone for the term. I was just thinking (in text) that it seemed an almot impossible thing considering the variables involved, that's all. If he had done something to the pre-amp section of the amp, or had the amp dimed, I would understand it, but well y'know...... It's hot, my brain is tired heh.