Jon Oliva's pain

[Marshall Law]

was searching some savatage vids on you tube tonight, and came across this, Jon Oliva's pain, I never knew he had been doing this, he has put on a lot of weight, I don't care, I'm sure it has something to do with criss's death, hence the name of the band, I'm glad to see he is still singing, what a voice, he still has it

PS, I didn't embed the video because they never play as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRYVcCueyYE

 

[halford]

Saw him last year a few times in Europe. GREAT voice still and did some Savatage stuff.

He is HUGE now though, put on alot of weight!

Halford

 

[Sheik_Yerbouti]

As a long-time Sava-fanatic (since Sirens was a new release!), I've been into JOP for a while now, it's pretty good stuff, but I can't imagine what the hell happened to Savatage, and if they're never going to do anything, why doesn't he just officially pull the plug on them?

What else sucks is that I met Jon & the rest of 'Tage after a show in Atlanta on their last tour for P&M, and Jon was telling everyone that a Savatage dvd was going to be out by the end of the year featuring all kinds of live and personal footage of Criss, only to have it never come out.

Jon was already huge then, but sounded great live, and Damond Jiniya was fantastic on the stuff he sang, and Jon was telling everyone that the new Savatage record was almost completely written already, going on and on about how great it was going to be, then *poof*, Savatage just disappears into oblivion without a word on their website or on Jon's for that matter, no message to the fans, nothing. Even if he plans to bring Savatage back to life one day, that's kind of a shitty way to treat the fans, IMO.

 

[BlinkTwice]

I'd hate to be the dude paying for that bands rider

 

[Sheik_Yerbouti]

I'd hate to be the dude paying for that bands rider

Now why ever would you say that?

 

[tonmazz]

Yeah this is great stuff. I saw a you tube of JOP doing Edge of Thorns and it kicked ass. I guess we have this and transiberian to keep the Savatage stuff alive.

 

[technomancer]

JOP has some great material, and Jon still sounds fantastic. I've been meaning to pick up the new album that came out a couple of months ago, Festival.

 

[War Admiral]

Yeah who gives a fuck if he's fat...unreal pipes on that motherfucker!!!

 

[tonmazz]

JOP has some cool stuff.
Maybe I am weird, but I often think about Criss's passing and for some reason it really effects me to the point of getting pissed off. Savatage is a big influence of mine

Yeah I agree, I also put randy Rhoads in that category. What great music might be coming from them if they were still alive!

 

[mrp5150]

A friend of mine from another forum who lives in Norway bought one of Tom McDyne's GMW guitars about a while back. Had to have it shipped to me because Tom didn't want to ship overseas. Everyone in the band signed it and it came with some CD's and such.

 

[TOStudent]

Dr. Butcher!!.....
Cafferty and Jon

I like it a little better than JOP. JOP is just more varying music styles IMO.
Jon even stated it as well, because it has songs from different Savatage time periods. Streets etc.
Cafferty's tone is a little buzzy on Butcher. I thought someone had mentioned once it was a TSL.

 

[tonmazz]

A friend of mine from another forum who lives in Norway bought one of Tom McDyne's GMW guitars about a while back. Had to have it shipped to me because Tom didn't want to ship overseas. Everyone in the band signed it and it came with some CD's and such.

 

[crwnedblasphemy]

The new JOP is pretty good, and there are some well written emotional songs. What has been said about Savatage has been spot on, especially about no announcements. I do think Paul Oneil has a lot to do with it too? Maybe not, but he is always busy organizing next fall/winters Trans Siberian tours(which let's face it, are the real money makers) so I think his time in production work and writing is limited. Maybe that is part of the reason....I mean, if Jon did most of the writing, we'd hear a Jon Oliva's Pain cd shrink wrapped in a Savatage logo. There has to be some other factors?

On a side note, I'd take Circle II Circle any day over JOP. Zakk's style and there tunes are way better in my opinion. I love Zakk Stevens on vocals, not to take anything away from Jon's rougher edge.

 

[Wayniac]

Originally that project was gonna be called 'Tage Mahal, not Oliva's Pain.
I've worked with and hung out with Jon several times - at Progpower, did one tour with JoP, Beyond Fear and Caffery in 2005 I think it was (it was the Fall "Faces" run for Caffery, and the "Pain of it All" tour for Oliva), and again when he played Progpower another time, and I did his acoustic show for the Progpower warmup that year as well.

Jon is one of the funniest nicest guys you ever met. And a talented SOB as well.
As far as the riders - the man is easy to please. I kno wit's easy to pick on large people - but weight gain is not only for phsycological reasons. Anyway...

As far as Savatage - lots of stuff behind the scenes that many of us will never be privy to. I have heard some - but that is a BIG onion with many layers. But - keep in mind - alot of the JOP stuff is parts that he had from tapes of Criss.....

and - not that it matter - but I like CIIC as well...

 

[PeteLaramee]

I saw Sava several times. Once with Criss and 4 or 5 times after his death. I saw JOP about 2 years ago with Zack Steven's band, Circle II Circle opening up. It was a great show.